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03 Sep 2019, 6:38 am

I used to take 150mg of amitriptyline for many years but it started to give me a racing heartbeat after my anxiety got worse.so my doctors switched me to seroquel to help me sleep


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03 Sep 2019, 6:54 am

Reactions to medicines are a very individual thing.

What works wonderfully for one might be a disaster for another.

On a much smaller scale, Ibuprofen is a godsend to me when my muscles get stiff. My wife doesn’t respond well to Ibuprofen at all. She refuses to take it.



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03 Sep 2019, 7:09 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Reactions to medicines are a very individual thing.

What works wonderfully for one might be a disaster for another.

On a much smaller scale, Ibuprofen is a godsend to me when my muscles get stiff. My wife doesn’t respond well to Ibuprofen at all. She refuses to take it.

A drug with raising blood presssure as a common side effect caused my blood pressure to drop dangerously low. My doc said, it's not common but it happens.

If Amitriptyline was prescribed by a doc, discuss the effect with them.

I take Ketrel (quetiapine) in very low dosage off-label for insomnia.


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03 Sep 2019, 7:15 am

I do have a prescription for Quetiapine but even at microdoses (I nibble the corner off a 25 mg tab = approx. 6 mg?), it is so sedating that I'm knocked out for a good 24 hours. It's more powerful to me than anaesthesia. I won't take it any more because it makes me sleep TOO MUCH.

Amitryptyline, in contrast, gave me insomnia.

I do take Zoloft and Prazosin for PTSD and to prevent nightmares. Neither of them make me sleepy.

I'm on Ambien but I heard it isn't good to take it daily, so that's why I tried low dose Amitryptyline at 10 mg.

I'll have to keep trying new ideas, or else stick with Ambien.


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03 Sep 2019, 8:02 am

I was on it for a time a few years ago. I lost the energy to just live. Felt like a zombie. I have now gotten to the point where I refuse to take anything that might alter my consciousness and energy levels. It has been a long journey to this point in my life and will not go back to where I was with medications.


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03 Sep 2019, 10:06 am

Donald Morton wrote:
I was on it for a time a few years ago. I lost the energy to just live. Felt like a zombie. I have now gotten to the point where I refuse to take anything that might alter my consciousness and energy levels. It has been a long journey to this point in my life and will not go back to where I was with medications.


(( Donald )) I'm sorry to hear that. I was the same when they upped my Zoloft to the maximum level of 250 mg. I feel like a zombie at the best of times because of alexithymia but the Zoloft made me nearly comatose. I tapered back and discovered I do best at 25 mg (one tenth). I tend to respond better to very low doses of anything I take. I think autistic people are especially sensitive to medications and that doctors don't realise this when prescribing. For example, I take a nibble of a 25 mg Quetiapine and I'm essentially unconscious for 24 hours. Some people take hundreds of mg of it! I can't take codeine either, or I get heart palpitations.

It's taken me a very long time to adjust my meds to just low dose Zoloft, Prazosin, and other meds for my stroke. I quit many others including Respiridone and Propranolol because of side effects.

I'm glad you did what was best for you as well.


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03 Sep 2019, 10:33 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Donald Morton wrote:
I was on it for a time a few years ago. I lost the energy to just live. Felt like a zombie. I have now gotten to the point where I refuse to take anything that might alter my consciousness and energy levels. It has been a long journey to this point in my life and will not go back to where I was with medications.


(( Donald )) I'm sorry to hear that. I was the same when they upped my Zoloft to the maximum level of 250 mg. I feel like a zombie at the best of times because of alexithymia but the Zoloft made me nearly comatose. I tapered back and discovered I do best at 25 mg (one tenth). I tend to respond better to very low doses of anything I take. I think autistic people are especially sensitive to medications and that doctors don't realise this when prescribing. For example, I take a nibble of a 25 mg Quetiapine and I'm essentially unconscious for 24 hours. Some people take hundreds of mg of it! I can't take codeine either, or I get heart palpitations.

It's taken me a very long time to adjust my meds to just low dose Zoloft, Prazosin, and other meds for my stroke. I quit many others including Respiridone and Propranolol because of side effects.

I'm glad you did what was best for you as well.

A nibble of 25 mg Quetiapine makes me unconcious for 8 hours... which is just perfect.
But I know what you mean, even a tiny cup of coffee makes me so agitated that I can't function.
On the other hand, standard painkillers have no effect on me at all.
SNRI made me want to play brutal video games (I was sensible enough not to attack random people IRL).


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07 Mar 2020, 6:34 pm

I used to be an intelligent, decently capable boy. I was a full-time university student for 3 years before I quit. My major was Computer Science. I also had some jobs related to my major. I significantly outperformed all other students in a number of math and physics classes at the university.

About 2 years ago, I started suffering from migraines which came with dangerous mental problems. This gradually increased over the last 2 years. After I was forcefully hospitalized for suicidal ideation, I quit school and went to live with my parents. My migraines kept torturing me, so we tried one of the most popular medicines for migraine: amitriptyline.

I took 25mg amitriptyline per day for 18 days (2.5 weeks). When I started, the effects were mild. It made my sleep worse, especially on the first night. On that night I had difficulty falling asleep then woke up before my alarm. Then, once my alarm went off, I fell asleep and I slept for about 30 minutes. That was the first night. My migraines were worse if anything for that 2.5 weeks, so I stopped.

I had no idea that stopping would be 100 times worse than starting. I had the following severe symptoms for 4 days:
- Inability to sleep. The night after my first day of reduced amitriptyline levels, I slept zero. I laid in my bed wanting to sleep for a lot of hours, but could not fall asleep. The next night I actually slept a lot, probably because my body needed it so bad. The next night I got extremely little sleep.
- Inability to eat. I lost 12 pounds in 4 days. Note that I only gained about 3 pounds during the 2.5 weeks of amitriptyline. I had severe nausea but never vomited. Applesauce became my staple food. Once I tried to eat a slice of pizza and I spent the next 15 minutes gasping for air. I think my digestive system was consuming too much oxygen.
- Severe lethargy. I spent a lot of daylight hours laying down.
- Feeling cold all the time. I wore my jacket most of the time, even though I never went outside.
These became increasingly severe for about 4 days. Finally, on day 4 of reduced amitriptyline levels, these effects came to a climax.
I was laying on a couch without enough energy to get up. I tried to sit up to get a drink of water from my water bottle. But I started feeling increasingly out of breath instead. After approximately 45 seconds of feeling increasingly out of breath, I had a strange neurological event. I have no history of seizures, but I think that's what this was. For about 30 seconds, I was in more head pain than I had ever been in before. I was screaming but the pain drowned out all other senses. I don't know if I was convulsing or not. Fortunately, this event ended after approximately 30 seconds (I really don't know how long it lasted, these numbers are just guesses). I was turning blue. My dad was there so he rushed me to the local hospital. I almost died trying to get to the car because it was extremely cold outside and I was already turning blue. But we made it to the hospital. The hospital didn't do anything useful for me. But after that, my health got better. However, amitriptyline seems to have done severe permanent damage.

One interesting note is that my head did not hurt at all during the 4 days of severe withdrawal symptoms (except for the seizure-like event). I wish I could isolate that effect, but I am not trying any medicines any time soon because I don't want more permanent damage.

Ever since the end of those severe withdrawal symptoms, my head has been extremely easily provoked to pain. It is like when I do things my brain heats up and I have to let it rest so it can cool down. For some reason, this is especially bad in the morning, within 3 hours of waking up. A typical pain-provoking activity is washing dishes. After 30 seconds of washing dishes, my head might be hurting severely and I must put down the dishes and sit down to let is stop hurting. Almost all pain-provoking activities involve standing up, probably because keeping my balance requires the brain to work. I certainly do not feel safe driving right now, even though I could drive before and during the 2.5 weeks of amitriptyline. I used to only have headaches in "attacks." My head would hurt at least some on almost any day. Sometimes it would be severe. That pain was not effected by my actions on the short term. If something triggered a headache, the headache would usually be the next day. But now, after amitriptyline, I can spin up severe head pain in 30 seconds. It goes away in 30 seconds too, but it is very disabling.

It has been 3 weeks since I stopped amitriptyline and I am still suffering from the activity-provoked headaches. I did not have these headaches before amitriptyline. The medicine seems to have done severe permanent damage.

I have read many reviews of amitriptyline and none sound as bad as what I am experiencing. I don't know what kind of curse has been placed on me.



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08 Mar 2020, 9:41 am

I have heard that seizures can be a side effect. I don't need that, or any of the other awful side effects others have described, at all.