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26 Jan 2017, 7:43 pm

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It seems like people like this are part of the reason some don't consider aspergers a real condition and think it's a fad.


And this in itself is a deeply hurtful attitude. To not be believed is awful. You don't know what it's like to live inside someone else's mind. Women and girls in particular put a lot of effort into blending in and adapting.

It's late here, I'm off to my bed. :)


It's just that when people see people (like Rhiannon) on youtube making it seem so easy, and making it seem as if aspergers is a fun and glamorous thing to have, its harmful to those that have it worse. They get accused of not trying hard enough, being unmotivated and called lazy. People see these popular youtubers and think it's not a big deal and a fad. They think that if this person can do it, then why can't you? I'm not trying to invalidate anyone, or anything though, it's just that particular youtuber doesn't seem genuine. I like this persons interview

https://youtu.be/c2bgTcURrqQ

It's just seems more genuine rather than someone making show of it.



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26 Jan 2017, 8:08 pm

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I really don't get how people like that supposedly have the same thing as me - she communicates well, my communication is impaired.


I communicate fairly well too - I've learned various social scripts and personas. Most people have no idea. It only goes wrong when they do or say something unexpected. :D Making a video, giving a talk, performing in general - those things aren't as difficult as dealing with people directly.

I watched the video and I am very dumbfounded as well. However, I don't want to delegitimatize her struggles, but I simply can't relate to her, and in fact, I think I might envy her. Compare her to the other girl that's dealing with anxiety and was mocked by people for her quirks and that is someone that I can have tea with. As a self conscious girl, I still naturally learned to feign social actions so i could come off as more normal. There were times when it backfired and I guess maybe she's better than some of us at acting in social situations. I also feel like a dumb mute sometimes. Even when I'm giving a presentation or speaking to anyone, even my family, I just want to puke.


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26 Jan 2017, 8:51 pm

Thanks for sharing, I'm always looking for more YouTubers with Autism/Asperger's.



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26 Jan 2017, 10:05 pm

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I watched the video and I am very dumbfounded as well. However, I don't want to delegitimatize her struggles, but I simply can't relate to her, and in fact, I think I might envy her. Compare her to the other girl that's dealing with anxiety and was mocked by people for her quirks and that is someone that I can have tea with. As a self conscious girl, I still naturally learned to feign social actions so i could come off as more normal. There were times when it backfired and I guess maybe she's better than some of us at acting in social situations. I also feel like a dumb mute sometimes. Even when I'm giving a presentation or speaking to anyone, even my family, I just want to puke.


I am completely unable to relate to her as well, she also seems narcissistic. She reminds me of one of the well off popular kids from high school that got lots of attention and praise. The "anxiety girl" is much more relatable, I noticed that some people make fun of her in the comments section for rocking back and fourth.

Feeling like a mute in social situations is something I definitely relate with you on, especially in group situations. I always feel dumb and out of place. Even if I'm recording a video of myself, it's difficult and my asd is apparent. Talking at a camera can be just as awkward for me.



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26 Jan 2017, 11:51 pm

There are number of attractive, and poised, and well spoken, young lady vloggers who claim to be aspie.
Being well spoken does not negate being aspie. But some folks have more of an aspie vibe than others. This girl (AnMish) just somehow seems more aspie than the girl the OP posted about.



https://youtu.be/At4Vmo13vJE



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27 Jan 2017, 1:58 am

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There are number of attractive, and poised, and well spoken, young lady vloggers who claim to be aspie.
Being well spoken does not negate being aspie. But some folks have more of an aspie vibe than others. This girl (AnMish) just somehow seems more aspie than the girl the OP posted about.



https://youtu.be/At4Vmo13vJE


Agreed. She definitely gives off more "aspie vibes". I think part of it is her fidgety body movements. Her voice is lovely though. The other aspie female mentioned by the op is hard to take seriously.



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27 Jan 2017, 2:33 am

This_Amoeba wrote:
It's just that when people see people (like Rhiannon) on youtube making it seem so easy, and making it seem as if aspergers is a fun and glamorous thing to have, its harmful to those that have it worse. They get accused of not trying hard enough, being unmotivated and called lazy. People see these popular youtubers and think it's not a big deal and a fad. They think that if this person can do it, then why can't you? I'm not trying to invalidate anyone, or anything though, it's just that particular youtuber doesn't seem genuine


Yes, I understand, and don't disagree with you.

I've heard it's 'fashionable' at the moment and that just boggles my mind. 8O



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27 Jan 2017, 8:29 am

iliketrees wrote:
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There are some things in life you have to get over with.

What is it you're suggesting, if anything?

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Making a video, giving a talk, performing in general - those things aren't as difficult as dealing with people directly.

For you. For me it's the other way round.


I'm suggesting that maybe people need to leave their bubbles. We'll never have chances if we don't, right? Even if the vast majority of us have social awkwardness, it doesn't mean we should cower away from others. I'm not trying to say every person with autism does, it depends on the individual. Hiding won't solve anything.

What makes you think I'm in a bubble/cowering/hiding? I know you're being general, but you did reply to me saying this.


I'm sorry that I sent it out like that. Anyway, I sort of meant how some people complain about social situations. I know they're difficult, but if "you" (loosely speaking) get through them, then you'll become a stronger person. I'm not even sure what I'm rambling on about. :mrgreen:


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27 Jan 2017, 9:19 am

iliketrees wrote:
I really don't get how people like that supposedly have the same thing as me - she communicates well, my communication is impaired.


I know what you mean.

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Could be that we're different enough to have different conditions...or it could simply be that some of us are really good at performing and others aren't. We do after all have personalities and talents outwith being autistic. Just a thought.

It goes beyond performing, though. Communication in general has been the thing I've struggled with the most my entire life, something that really gets in the way, something very obvious given my speech isn't fluent like that no matter what I do or how hard I try. I really don't see how someone who is a strong communicator has the same disorder as me - it's like the complete opposite. I think this is more than personality going on, but I know nothing so maybe it is.


You just have to go with autism being a very vast spectrum. Which is sometimes easier said than done. Quite honestly if I were at the level of the person in the OP thread, I'd consider myself 99% free of autism. Now I don't say that to discredit anyone. That's just how it is from my perspective.



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27 Jan 2017, 11:27 am

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Hi, Just thought i would show you this You Tube channel of a girl with our condition.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi4dWa ... roSsyH_L5Q

What an amazing confident young lady


I find her somewhat irritating, but she's definitely confident.


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27 Jan 2017, 1:30 pm

This_Amoeba wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
There are number of attractive, and poised, and well spoken, young lady vloggers who claim to be aspie.
Being well spoken does not negate being aspie. But some folks have more of an aspie vibe than others. This girl (AnMish) just somehow seems more aspie than the girl the OP posted about.



https://youtu.be/At4Vmo13vJE


Agreed. She definitely gives off more "aspie vibes". I think part of it is her fidgety body movements. Her voice is lovely though. The other aspie female mentioned by the op is hard to take seriously.


Yeah. She does fidget a lot.
But her voice is lovely. :heart:



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27 Jan 2017, 2:13 pm

She is beautiful but talks too fast in many of her videos.

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27 Jan 2017, 4:40 pm

If I hadn't been aware that she had Asperger, I never would have guessed. However, I don't relate to her. At all. I had the exact same reaction to a TV show where they invited people with Asperger to come and talk about it.

It makes me feel 10x worse to watch this kind of stuff because I had actually thought for a while that my case was somewhat mild. Now I realize that it's actually heavier than I thought. I still struggle with eye contact (I fake it), I stumble and stutter a lot when speaking (ideas come too fast for my mouth to say), I have almost zero active non-verbal language and don't even talk to me about deciphering any of it. I can make an honest effort on paper (literally) but when it comes to real-life application, I find it impossible.

It's not like I haven't tried either. From age 16 (when I was diagnosed) to 26 I made an honest effort. I went to college away from my hometown so I could have a blank slate. I read tons of material, practiced all of it every day. I thought I was faking it pretty well until I had a depression relapse and went to see a psy. I asked to see the report afterwards and wouldn't you know it, she saw right through my act. She saw the forced eye contact - well, the forced everything. An act I had practiced for 10 years!

If she really does have Asperger, then I'm happy for her because it looks like she really has the tool set to fit in normal society. At the same time, I don't particularly enjoy to be lumped into the same category as her. I don't feel like we are in the same league at all, perhaps in the same way I don't feel in the same league as a classical autist.


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27 Jan 2017, 5:09 pm

The girl talked about in the OP comes off as a hyper version of your standard mallrat/Valleygirl type. Doesnt seem aspie.But who knows? She does Vlogs on some whacky stuff. Like on the Mandella Effect I noticed when the link took me to U Tube.



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27 Jan 2017, 7:39 pm

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If I hadn't been aware that she had Asperger, I never would have guessed. However, I don't relate to her. At all. I had the exact same reaction to a TV show where they invited people with Asperger to come and talk about it.

It makes me feel 10x worse to watch this kind of stuff because I had actually thought for a while that my case was somewhat mild. Now I realize that it's actually heavier than I thought. I still struggle with eye contact (I fake it), I stumble and stutter a lot when speaking (ideas come too fast for my mouth to say), I have almost zero active non-verbal language and don't even talk to me about deciphering any of it. I can make an honest effort on paper (literally) but when it comes to real-life application, I find it impossible.

It's not like I haven't tried either. From age 16 (when I was diagnosed) to 26 I made an honest effort. I went to college away from my hometown so I could have a blank slate. I read tons of material, practiced all of it every day. I thought I was faking it pretty well until I had a depression relapse and went to see a psy. I asked to see the report afterwards and wouldn't you know it, she saw right through my act. She saw the forced eye contact - well, the forced everything. An act I had practiced for 10 years!

If she really does have Asperger, then I'm happy for her because it looks like she really has the tool set to fit in normal society. At the same time, I don't particularly enjoy to be lumped into the same category as her. I don't feel like we are in the same league at all, perhaps in the same way I don't feel in the same league as a classical autist.

OMG YES! I worry about this all the time. I even tried to pretend I was a beauty guru or whatever like her but it was so awkward because I kept tripping up on word pronunciation and I didn't feel like my communication was as smooth as hers. I always wondered that even though I was diagnosed with high functioning autism, am I still a little bit too Aspie? Am I normal enough? So I'm not low functioning but I still feel like a creep on the inside. To the average person, i'll just appear as a normal quiet person and I'm kind of happy about that but my quirks still manage to find a way out now and then. I also wonder if the manifestation of autistic symptoms depends on culture. Like my aunt believes she is somewhat on the spectrum like me, even though she was never diagnosed, but she matches the symptoms. We grew up in different countries and time periods.

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The girl talked about in the OP comes off as a hyper version of your standard mallrat/Valleygirl type. Doesnt seem aspie.But who knows? She does Vlogs on some whacky stuff. Like on the Mandella Effect I noticed when the link took me to U Tube.


You need to watch this guy then: . He does weird stuff all the time but I never once thought he had autism. Also the Mandela effect is pretty popular on Youtube. She;s probably just another teen following the trends. It's not like the mannequin challenge, for example, isn't weird either


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28 Jan 2017, 1:24 am

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You just have to go with autism being a very vast spectrum. Which is sometimes easier said than done. Quite honestly if I were at the level of the person in the OP thread, I'd consider myself 99% free of autism. Now I don't say that to discredit anyone. That's just how it is from my perspective.

I don't know if her problems are much, much milder but the same, which would put me a lot further in on the same spectrum (which wouldn't make sense, I'm high functioning), or if her problems are on a different spectrum, which I see as being more likely since these people have different problems, but again I know nothing.