Religion and Aspies

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Yep. I don't listen to glitter bugs and their high temples no matter how pious they say they are. Simplicity in the Beatitudes and parables is enough to guide me.

Perhaps it is an issue of semantics, everyone believes in something. Even those that claim that they believe in nothing believe in something.

Hope I don't offend.

I used to be Catholic but then I went to Catholic school which cured me of that rather quickly. Lack of ideals and hypocrisy among those practicing.

So what is my religion? I believe there is a nugget of truth in most things, I believe there most be something that begun the process in motion. Else where did the first building block originate from? Although I am open to being wrong however to me logically the presence of no higher being does not make sense at least at this juncture. I believe there to be a continuum that we all return to and that all things are connected but separate, I believe that in a sense we are our own god in that upon returning to the source we are able to reconnect back into everything but at the same time we are still separate.

I also believe that if this is to be true whatever force created us intended for us to explore everything and that to close your mind to the possibility that the ideals and beliefs you have held to be true may not be true spits in the face of the creator. That religion, worship and faith are but the chains of oppression invented by mankind and that we are to elevate above to explore the true meaning of our beliefs.

I don't understand what PPR is. Could you explain?

PPR is the WrongPlanet Politics, Philosophy, and Religion forum and much more survivable now than in days past!

Thanks, leejosepho. I have trouble with acronyms.

Religion and superstition have never made any sense to me, so I've always been an atheist. It's the default position since were are all born atheists, until people start lying to us.

I was raised secular, but did have a brief affair with Buddhism and Taoism, which to me were the only religions that were coherent with a secular worldview (with some finagling) - they don't require a belief in the supernatural. I tried meditation, but was too fidgety. In the end, I realized there really was no point to it for me. I didn't get anything out of it. It didn't make me feel better, didn't really offer me any useful wisdom I couldn't deduce on my own.

I don't really understand why people are religious. I've heard people want a feeling of connection to something greater than them. The one experience I've had with that was most pronounced when I watched 'Cosmos', with Neil Degrasse Tyson, when they discussed the evolutionary tree of life on Earth. Being aware of the unbreakable connection I have to every living organism on the planet is incredibly moving for me.

No. It is not "believe as we believe".

Its "put your money where your mouth is".

Hardly the same thing.

If I proclaim that I think that "indoor plumbing is the work of Devil" you might suggest that "I try living in a shack in the woods without indoor plumbing for a few months if you really believe that". You wouldnt be "banishing" me for heretical beliefs. You would just be asking me to match my words with actions. Thats what Mike was doing.

In contrast if I say that "indoor plumbing is the work of the devil", and you replied that "all of you heretics who doubt the necessity of indoor plumbing should be beaten and flogged until you recant your heresy" then that would be example of what you're talking about.

I am of the Christian faith.

Opinion, speculation or have you actually asked him?!

In any case, I am aware there are times when people do suggest political, religious and/or whatever other kinds of alternatives be investigated and that the above could be heard in that way, but the topic of discussion was about religion...and love of country is a form of worship that does typically lead to things such as "Love it or leave it." Also, how would "living in a shack in the woods without indoor plumbing for a few months" ever prove or dis-prove any kind of connection between indoor plumbing and the Devil? I would be more inclined to think being sent to the shack would be his/its kind of thing.

If you are implying or believing the two are inseparable, that brush is way too broad.


Do you claim to have any proof of that?

Huh?

Why would I need to speculate, or consult anyone about what he said when I am a native speaker of the English language who can read for myself what he said?

I grew up nominally Christian (Catholic), but have drifted more to a general belief in a power that created and continues sustaining the universe. This power can be known as God, Deo, Allah, Adonai, Brahman, Waheguru or anything else.

I don't think aspies are into organised religion. Which is strange as some religions have a very meticulous character to some of their practices. The strict separation of meat and milk in Orthodox Judaism comes to mind.

Because it can be heard in more than one way...and the way it *sounded* to me, as mentioned when I posted, could just as easily within a discussion of religion be perceived differently.

I am an Autistic probably Aspergers and have been an atheist for a few years.