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11 Apr 2017, 2:39 am

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There should be schools that only allow high functioning autistics to go to. It would curb bullying and would also prevent the class from going far too slow because LFAs are included. I know some people think of this as discriminatory but what other option do we have to stop bullying and still have challenging academic material along with extra services?


Ezra will tell you there is plenty of bullying that goes on in autistic schools. I have no doubt plenty of bullying behavoirs would happen in poorly run HFA schools. The difference would be that a lot of the people behaving that way may not realize they are harming others. Since these behavoirs intentional or not hurt others they should not be accepted.


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11 Apr 2017, 2:48 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
asper80s wrote:
There should be schools that only allow high functioning autistics to go to. It would curb bullying and would also prevent the class from going far too slow because LFAs are included. I know some people think of this as discriminatory but what other option do we have to stop bullying and still have challenging academic material along with extra services?


Ezra will tell you there is plenty of bullying that goes on in autistic schools. I have no doubt plenty of bullying behavoirs would happen in poorly run HFA schools. The difference would be that a lot of the people behaving that way may not realize they are harming others. Since these behavoirs intentional or not hurt others they should not be accepted.



It would happen less often than in NT schools though. NTs make fun of people even if they walk a little funny.



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11 Apr 2017, 8:29 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
asper80s wrote:
There should be schools that only allow high functioning autistics to go to. It would curb bullying and would also prevent the class from going far too slow because LFAs are included. I know some people think of this as discriminatory but what other option do we have to stop bullying and still have challenging academic material along with extra services?


Ezra will tell you there is plenty of bullying that goes on in autistic schools. I have no doubt plenty of bullying behavoirs would happen in poorly run HFA schools. The difference would be that a lot of the people behaving that way may not realize they are harming others. Since these behavoirs intentional or not hurt others they should not be accepted.

Those type of schools exist? Holy crap! That is awesome. I wish there was one in my area. But public school is still pretty good in my opinion.



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11 Apr 2017, 10:14 am

I tried to go without special ed but was getting bad grades. I couldn't do school without any extra help because it was too abstract. I was also not turning in my assignments because I had not finished them yet because I wouldn't accept I was unable to do it but thought if I just tried harder I would get my brain to magically figure out the answers and know the answers. I think my anxiety was caused from homework stress and not understanding the assignments and the fact I don't like homework so there that stress too.


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11 Apr 2017, 11:01 am

In special education schools it's easier for teachers to get away with being abusive or incompetent. "Normal" parents or students are more likely to be listened to when they complain about lax standards. "Special" parents or students are more likely to be swept under the rug. Sad but true.



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11 Apr 2017, 12:39 pm

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I tried to go without special ed but was getting bad grades. I couldn't do school without any extra help because it was too abstract. I was also not turning in my assignments because I had not finished them yet because I wouldn't accept I was unable to do it but thought if I just tried harder I would get my brain to magically figure out the answers and know the answers. I think my anxiety was caused from homework stress and not understanding the assignments and the fact I don't like homework so there that stress too.

I don't have any special ed classes anymore and all are normal classes. But I have indirect services. Which checks on me and how I'm doing and if I'm getting good grades or not. And I can go in her room if I need help on some school work or taking a test. But never goes in there for since the teacher in the classroom can help me and can do tests just fine in the class. Did you ever have that while in school?



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11 Apr 2017, 1:22 pm

To me, it sounds like it is pure luck whether you'll get a good or bad SpEd teacher.

I never had special ed. For starters, when I was in younger, we really didn't have any special ed beyond deaf/blind education. In most cases, if you can't handle mainstream, then you didn't go to school. My teachers didn't really pay attention to me except to tell me that I was slow.

We didn't have much resources for ASD or ADHD or whatever, so kids just had to try to improve. Maybe if we had more available resources, I would have been tested and got special ed. Or maybe not.

Later on, I couldn't read when the rest of my class was able to, but I managed to get away with that.


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11 Apr 2017, 1:30 pm

248RPA wrote:
To me, it sounds like it is pure luck whether you'll get a good or bad SpEd teacher.

I never had special ed. For starters, when I was in younger, we really didn't have any special ed beyond deaf/blind education. My teachers didn't really pay attention to me except to tell me that I was slow.

We didn't have much resources for Aspergers or ADHD or whatever, so those kids just had to try to improve. Maybe if we had more available resources, I would have been tested and got special ed. Or maybe not.

Later on, I couldn't read when the rest of my class was able to, but I managed to get away with that.

How long ago was that? And I bet that sucked that you couldn't get any help.



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11 Apr 2017, 2:40 pm

Corny wrote:
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To me, it sounds like it is pure luck whether you'll get a good or bad SpEd teacher.

I never had special ed. For starters, when I was in younger, we really didn't have any special ed beyond deaf/blind education. My teachers didn't really pay attention to me except to tell me that I was slow.

We didn't have much resources for Aspergers or ADHD or whatever, so those kids just had to try to improve. Maybe if we had more available resources, I would have been tested and got special ed. Or maybe not.

Later on, I couldn't read when the rest of my class was able to, but I managed to get away with that.

How long ago was that? And I bet that sucked that you couldn't get any help.

2003-2006


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02 May 2019, 10:27 am

I'm in my third year of high school, and in special ed. It's a bit too inclusive when it comes to what disabilities are part of it, I was in a class with a bunch of really slow students one of which had Down's syndrome, which I can't stand(almost). Now I'm with students more like me though 8) . Other than that, the class is helpfully small, don't feel rushed academically.

From 1-10th grade, I had an assistant teacher who helped me with all my school work( when I wanted to do said work :wink: ). I had a couple of different assistants throughout the ten years, but most were nice and helpful.

I think it can be helpful if made as specialized as possible, with autistic students separated from those with other, less high functioning conditions. Particularly the implementation of assistants for students who are surrounded by NTs, would definitely be helpful for "the one autistic kid". It was for me :heart:


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02 May 2019, 10:37 am

I wonder if anyone has tried making sure that the teacher's IQ is never much lower than the student's. I could never get satisfactory answers to simple questions, but I've heard that I give good answers now.