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21 May 2007, 9:00 am

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I don't suffer from AS at all. I suffer from living in a world full of NTs.


A suffering brought about by your AS, yes?

No. Brought about by other people. The only way I suffer from AS is when I open the curtains during the day and the sunlight hurts my eyes. Other than that, I suffer from society, not myself. That would be like saying I suffer from being gay. I don't; I suffer from homophobia.


Wow, and if you actually came out from behind the walls and the curtians and worked and went grocery shopping, etc you could REALLY suffer from those mean and horrible NTs!

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21 May 2007, 9:11 am

I think she's making a point that there is far worse suffering out there.


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21 May 2007, 9:17 am

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I think she's making a point that there is far worse suffering out there.

But I never said I suffered more than anyone or my life was terrible.



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21 May 2007, 9:37 am

well i dont really get the question but if your asking if i have as the answer is yes


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21 May 2007, 11:16 am

Thanks for all the replies. I'm not too surprised by the attitudes Im picking up here. It is so easy to blame NTs but I would only do that in a joking way. NTs often suffer greatly for various reasons, probably nothing to do with being NT - or am I wrong? Maybe being awash in empathy for others who are having troubles isn't such a good thing personally.

It irks me a bit to to hear phrases like "suffering from AS" even though it is true that at times I suffer it. The occasional social faux-pas, or realizing I may have misread the play or finding myself unable to stop procrastinating - these are problems I might describe as a kind of suffering, but they are minor compared to the abuses of power NTs and AS alike have to endure out in the world - I would suffer a whole more if I forced myself to work in some overlit cubicle or to tagalong with "friends" evrry night to the bars. Instead I accept that I need a certain amount of control over my environment and that so long as I am in the driver's seat (so to speak) I can dismiss any thought of having to "suffer fools". Problem is the few friends I have think of me as selfish, a dictator of sorts. They must think I treat my woman badly but I don't - she's an Aspie too - we "get" each other even if others don't.

When I see an NT upset that so-and-so is upset about so-and-so I realize that NTs have their own way of suffering from what they've got.

I suppose like someone posted above we all suffer from being human!



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21 May 2007, 11:19 am

NTs duffer too, yes. But we don't go around making them suffer.



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21 May 2007, 11:32 am

i suffer from childrens birthday parties.



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21 May 2007, 11:33 am

I suffer from bloody stupid religious people.



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27 May 2007, 6:47 am

No, I revel in it most of the time, much to the disgust of those who think I want their help.



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27 May 2007, 8:02 am

I'm torn whether to say I feel the same as Kosmonaut or sopho. It would be interesting to see what sopho is like. She seems to know what she wants, how she feels, and sticks too it.

But YEAH! ALL of MY AS problems are created by NTs! I HATE their dumb expectation of inferrences, interpretation of ambiguities, handling incomplete details, having similar interests. I also hate their carelessness, hatred of order/care, choosing the worst sounds/lights.

Then again, I have made good money by going AGAINST their expectations, etc...

I don't know whether to laugh, or cry(I usually just laugh), but it IS amazing! I can do a LOT of things better, wouldn't cheat/lie/mistreat, etc.... but HEY, if they want someone better with sports, etc...

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27 May 2007, 10:16 am

My bf struggles equally with it.

He hurts because he wants to help and fix it, he can't understand me well at all, and he doesn't know what to do when I get upset about things... especially every day things.

I hurt because he wants to help and fix it, I can't understand him that well, and he can't do anything when I get upset about things.

Other people don't bother me so much-it sucks to not be able to do the same things or get along in the world the same way, but I can't expect that to change just because I have a lot of difficulty. The only ones I think have much to do with how much I struggle in every day life is that I can't get the help I need because they don't understand what I need and I cannot tell them exactly. They don't look at it as a serious thing, they say I'm making up excuses and such.

But the ones I don't have to interact with or be told "no" constantly about things or give vague responses (which just makes things really hard to accomplish when I don't know what they need), don't effect me much at all. I don't really care what they think because I don't have to talk to them, lol.



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27 May 2007, 12:04 pm

Sometimes I enjoy it, and sometimes I suffer.



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27 May 2007, 2:13 pm

I think I 'suffer' from it sometimes. But it's just mostly me indulging in self-pity.



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27 May 2007, 2:57 pm

I suffer from AS, yes.



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27 May 2007, 2:57 pm

beautifulspam wrote:
I suffer from AS, yes.

How?



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27 May 2007, 3:01 pm

I don't suffer from the autism or AS, I suffer from the well-intentioned fools
who volunteer unsolicited help whenever I pause to regather my train of thought
or reset my mental bearings. But this so-called suffering is temporary.