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23 May 2007, 8:45 pm

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I actually believe that IQ can change during a person's life, in either direction. I genuinely believe I am smarter/better at analyzing/better with my memory etc. than I was a few years ago. I'm not sure if this is generally accepted, but experience tells me it's true.


Yeah I agree I had hypothyroidism certainly from age 13-23 and my thinking became much faster when I began taking levothyroxine. And I first went to college at age 23 after that :)



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23 May 2007, 9:24 pm

mine has stayed the same from when I was tested as a child (around 6 yrs old.)
it has always stayed in the high 130's, low 140's.
i don't know to much about the test, but I would like to have a higher iq if possible.
it makes me feel good!


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23 May 2007, 10:11 pm

ButchCoolidge wrote:
I actually believe that IQ can change during a person's life, in either direction. I genuinely believe I am smarter/better at analyzing/better with my memory etc. than I was a few years ago. I'm not sure if this is generally accepted, but experience tells me it's true.


In general the IQ stays about the same across the lifespan. However, it is of course possible to improve your memory or your ability to analyze things. After all, that's a major part of what people learn in school, especially college- more sophisticated ways of thinking about and analyzing information. IQ tests take this into account. After all, my skills as a five year old were much different from what they were when I was fifteen, but there was only a difference of 5 IQ points between the two testing sessions 10 years apart. Although your ability to work with abstract information is a part of most IQ tests, they also tend to examine things like speed of processing and working memory, which aren't likely to change. Do you have any evidence that your IQ actually has changed (significantly, not like just ten points or so), or do you just feel like you can analyze things better? The latter is certainly possible, even probable, but I'd need more evidence before I'd believe the former.



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24 May 2007, 3:10 am

It was measured 130 when I was in 3rd Grade. Possibly 145+ according to a test I have taken.


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24 May 2007, 4:01 am

In my experience scores will differ dramatically because some tests include a batch that are MEMORY based which bring my/your overall score down - as I have a VERY poor memory .

I don't really see what memory has to do with your intelligence /IQ to be honest .

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24 May 2007, 5:06 am

In my opinion it does happen.
When i hadn't been to school/work for 3 years i didn't do all too well.
I got a 103 score on an iq test as i was verry slow due to lack of use of the brain in the prior years.
However after having been back into the whole thing for a year i did the same tests wich much greater ease and within half the time.
I didn't excactly get the score, however i knew i did far better.
In my school days when i went to school fulltime i also scored way above average in the test for wich school you should go to.
Not excactly the same as that meager iq score i got when i hadn't been to school for years.

However i think every person has his basic brain capasity.
As in a certain iq range he can get depending on his education/how well he sleeps/and other factors.

Say you have 1 same person.

person a: doesn't sleep well, isn't motivated because he doesn't like the direction of his education.
person b: sleeps well is verry motivated because he loves what hes learning and therefor functions well.

Now let's say both are identical twins but they live under very different conditions.
I bet you 1 milion bux they wil have different iq scores.



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24 May 2007, 11:12 am

Bart21 wrote:
Say you have 1 same person.

person a: doesn't sleep well, isn't motivated because he doesn't like the direction of his education.
person b: sleeps well is verry motivated because he loves what hes learning and therefor functions well.

Now let's say both are identical twins but they live under very different conditions.
I bet you 1 milion bux they wil have different iq scores.


Why wouldn't they? Environment definitely plays a large role in IQ scores. That's why it's important to norm tests on different populations. No one who knows anything about IQ testing would take that bet.



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24 May 2007, 11:15 am

Zincubus wrote:
In my experience scores will differ dramatically because some tests include a batch that are MEMORY based which bring my/your overall score down - as I have a VERY poor memory .

I don't really see what memory has to do with your intelligence /IQ to be honest .

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Well, I'm talking about the Wechsler/Stanford Binet type tests, not the pencil-and-paper type tests you might get handed out in school, and definitely not those tests they have online. Or those scales that let you estimate your IQ based on your SAT or GRE scores or whatever.
I mean if you were administered the same test on two different occasions by a professional even years apart, you'd be likely to get the same score- unless you were sick or something, because that would affect your score. But on two average days, the scores probably wouldn't be too far apart. Different tests are likely to yield different scores, as they won't test the exact same abilities.



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24 May 2007, 11:15 am

Anyone got zero when they took an IQ test and they also tried?

I have.... :wink:



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24 May 2007, 11:17 am

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Anyone got zero when they took an IQ test and they also tried?

I have.... :wink:


I'm assuming that was some test online or something. I know for example that the lowest possible score for the Wechsler IQ tests is 40, and the highest is 160. That's why they're not good for testing people at either extreme- you hit either floor or ceiling effects.



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24 May 2007, 11:23 am

Na...in person, I couldn't even sign my name. :wink:

(I guess you could say it was "40", but I say "0" because I didn't answer anything even though I tried to, I never bothered asking for the number).



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24 May 2007, 11:31 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Na...in person, I couldn't even sign my name. :wink:

(I guess you could say it was "40", but I say "0" because I didn't answer anything even though I tried to, I never bothered asking for the number).


:( :( :(

That must have been a bad day. I hope you're feeling better now. Were you sick or hung over or something?



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24 May 2007, 11:40 am

I was an autistic in high school trying to survive, nothing more; nothing less. :)

I suppose you could say I was intoxicated, sick and disassociated due to the environment.... That test would've made me LFA at the time....

I didn't "feel" low-functioning at the time. :?



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24 May 2007, 12:13 pm

I had scores of 160, 120, and 85, in that order (child, teen, and adult). I don't believe any of them, they're just numbers. I think I just never got much better at taking IQ tests so what was impressive at one age was not so impressive at another.


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24 May 2007, 12:24 pm

Danielismyname wrote:
I was an autistic in high school trying to survive, nothing more; nothing less. :)

I suppose you could say I was intoxicated, sick and disassociated due to the environment


thats why im happy ive left all schools done to me is f**k me up



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24 May 2007, 5:33 pm

aspie17 wrote:
thats why im happy ive left all schools done to me is f**k me up


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