Diagnosed Fictional Characters With Autism/Aspergers

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11 Nov 2017, 11:33 am

"Roman J. Israel, Esq" lead character played by Denzel Washington in the upcoming film of the same name.

Activist Spirit: Dan Gilroy directs Denzel Washington as an idealistic lawyer in 'Roman J. Israel, Esq.'

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Opening in select theatres on Nov. 17, the Columbia Pictures release gives Washington a good shot at another Oscar nomination.

Director Dan Gilroy had no one else but Washington in mind when he wrote his screenplay. "If Denzel had not done this," he says by phone from Los Angeles, "I would have put the script away."

Gilroy pictured the Roman character as "somewhere about sixty, sixty-five, and a person of color. He had to have strength and he had to have heart. It took nine months to write on spec."

Washington's physical transformation for Roman was remarkable. He gained weight, grew an unruly Afro, removed caps from his teeth, and endured a wardrobe straight out of the 1970s. His Roman is a brusque, uncompromising advocate whose hair-trigger anger makes him a liability in court.

"We talked about Roman a lot," Gilroy says, describing his work method with Washington. "We decided that he was somewhere on the Asperger's spectrum, highly functioning, but with a social awkwardness we attributed to the fact that he was more comfortable in a backroom writing briefs than dealing with people."


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11 Nov 2017, 9:57 pm

River Wyles from To The Moon.


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16 Jan 2019, 2:41 am

Comic Book Villian Black Manta
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Aquaman's Autistic Supervillain: Black Manta's Autism Explained

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Black Manta is a character who, more than likely, needs A LOT of introduction. As the archnemesis of Aquaman since the late 60s, this bug-eyed bad guy has left quite a mark on the King of Atlantis over the years. However, while Black Manta’s monstrous acts will be hard to forget by comic aficionados worldwide, it’s his legacy within the autistic community that demonstrates the true danger this dastardly diver can cause as, yes, Black Manta is Aquaman’s ongoing sparring partner but, also, Black Manta is autistic – or was autistic (let me explain).

When Black Manta first appeared in 1967s Aquaman issue 35 (an issue which opens with the line ‘Holy Haddock!’), little was known about the manta ray-themed menace. Dressed in a full black diving suit, an oversized silver helmet with large white eyes and commanding a team of… ‘Manta-Men’, there wasn’t much to be gauged from Black Manta’s initial introduction, other than that the villain despised Aquaman and he was going to use his superhuman strength and the heat-beams from his helmet to create chaos in Atlantis.

At this point in history, autism was far from the public’s consciousness, so it’s little wonder why, when the villain was initially revealed, there was no mention of his experience of the condition. Instead readers would have to wait a full 36 years to hear the autistic origin of Black Manta when, in issue 8 of the mainline 2003 Aquaman run (in the story, titled ‘Paint it Black!’), it was revealed that, before Black Manta was Black Manta: ruthless treasure hunter and mercenary, he was David Hyde: an autistic orphan who had been sent to Arkham’s Asylum for the Criminally Insane – due to a low understanding of autism in the 80s.

While Arkham has never been a place anyone would want to visit (especially when it later became home to Batman’s arch-enemy: The Joker), what made it particularly unbearable for young David was that, due to having severe sensory issues, Hyde often suffered at the hands of the asylum staff, who were said to have shown ‘little sympathy’ when Hyde was put into ‘excruciating pain’ as the result of something as simple as being tucked into bed – In fact, as time went on, it transpired that the only solace young Hyde experienced during his early years was the feeling of ecstasy he had when submerged into icy cold water (because how else were they going to explain that he became a sea-based villain?).

Things for David got much worse from here though as, after being deemed ‘a hopeless case’ in the ’90s, the doctors at Arkham decided to use David as a human guinea pig for their ‘experimental treatments’ – e.g autism trials.

As this is the world of comics, you can probably guess what happened next as, just when David’s captors started to see progress: in the form of an improved vocabulary, it also transpired that these tests had given the boy super strength and increased aggression – resulting in the escape of the orphan from the asylum and the murder of many doctors who had punished the boy during his time at Arkham.

As if that wasn’t weird enough, things get more chaotic later in the same issue when David (who has now assumed the identity of Black Manta), has his autism ‘cured’ by Aquaman’s ‘Lady of the Lake healing powers’ (no I’m not making this up). This results in Black Manta miraculously turning to the side of good: a change which he would later stray from towards the end of the 2003 series.

However, while the very idea of a spectrum themed supervillain is problematic, Black Manta’s inclusion of an autism cure is something way more controversial within his legacy – as, not only is this something which can indicate that Black Manta was bad because he was autistic, but by having Aquaman administer the change, audiences are led to see the action of what is essentially rewriting someone’s brain as heroic.

Without his autism, Black Manta should have felt lost and stripped of his identity. Instead, he feels so thankful for Aquaman pulling him out of ‘a black hole’ that he joins the side of good – not exactly a message I would encourage.

Black Manta isn’t an ancient evil with a chip on his shoulder nor was he born on a distant planet looking for somewhere to invade, he was simply a boy brimming with potential who was broken as a result of others, needlessly, trying to fix him. This is a strong warning to the dangers of thinking that different must be bad and it’s one which the writers should be praised for – even if they do immediately ruin it with the introduction of an autism cure… or do they?

Yes, it’s disgusting that Black Manta becomes a goodie two shoes (flippers?) after Aquaman uses his ‘healing hand’, but there are a few notable inclusions after this happens that dilute how bad an idea this ever was.

In a later issue, Black Manta comments on how it was the years of abuse which really corrupted his moral compass.
Without being autistic, Black Manta eventually returns to his old life, demonstrating that, with or without the condition, David Hyde was always fated to be a jerk!

I feel these two significant pieces of evidence are often left undiscussed when bringing up how poorly autism is depicted by Black Manta. While I can’t exactly say that this forgives the original plot point: that it was autism what caused the scourge of the Seven Seas to be SO bad, in my opinion, it certainly upgrades him from an insult to the autistic community, to a sympathetic outsider in the world of literary autists.


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16 Jan 2019, 1:55 pm

What about Josie Gellar from “never been kissed”? This is an old movie (1999). This character was based around a lot of typical “nerd” stereotypes but even seemed exaggerated considering. She seemed completely oblivious to social cues and had no idea when she was making a complete fool out of herself, even when she returned to school as a 25 year old.



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18 Jan 2019, 11:44 pm

Miles Morales in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.


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19 Jan 2019, 1:50 pm

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Miles Morales in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.

Is he diagnosed?

LisaM1031 wrote:
What about Josie Gellar from “never been kissed”? This is an old movie (1999). This character was based around a lot of typical “nerd” stereotypes but even seemed exaggerated considering. She seemed completely oblivious to social cues and had no idea when she was making a complete fool out of herself, even when she returned to school as a 25 year old.

I have not seen that flick in years but I do not remember autism being mentioned.

This thread is for “diagnosed” charactors or where a character’s ASD is explicity mentioned. We have thread for suspected autistic characters


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19 Jan 2019, 3:31 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
AnonymousAnonymous wrote:
Miles Morales in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.

Is he diagnosed?

LisaM1031 wrote:
What about Josie Gellar from “never been kissed”? This is an old movie (1999). This character was based around a lot of typical “nerd” stereotypes but even seemed exaggerated considering. She seemed completely oblivious to social cues and had no idea when she was making a complete fool out of herself, even when she returned to school as a 25 year old.

I have not seen that flick in years but I do not remember autism being mentioned.

This thread is for “diagnosed” charactors or where a character’s ASD is explicity mentioned. We have thread for suspected autistic characters


I know I realized after I posted this. I went to post it in the other thread.



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19 Jan 2019, 3:38 pm

LisaM1031 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
AnonymousAnonymous wrote:
Miles Morales in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.

Is he diagnosed?

LisaM1031 wrote:
What about Josie Gellar from “never been kissed”? This is an old movie (1999). This character was based around a lot of typical “nerd” stereotypes but even seemed exaggerated considering. She seemed completely oblivious to social cues and had no idea when she was making a complete fool out of herself, even when she returned to school as a 25 year old.

I have not seen that flick in years but I do not remember autism being mentioned.

This thread is for “diagnosed” charactors or where a character’s ASD is explicity mentioned. We have thread for suspected autistic characters


I know I realized after I posted this. I went to post it in the other thread.


I have posted in the wrong thread before a number of times so I understand.


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19 Jan 2019, 7:59 pm

Nathan, the main character in X + Y. My autism is quite similar to his, and I really liked the portrayal. There's another prominent autistic character in the movie, too, but I've forgotten his name. I'm surprised that it doesn't get mentioned more often in discussions of good autism portrayals. It discusses autistics who "pass" versus those who don't, and the pressures placed on high functioning autistics to excel in their special interest in order to "make up" for their disability. It's really good, although I wasn't interested in the b-plot.


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19 Jan 2019, 9:03 pm

Dr. Shaun Murphy - The Good Doctor, Dr. Sheldon Cooper - The Big Bang Theory and The Rain Man



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20 Jan 2019, 6:17 pm

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Sally Matthews wasn't autistic, she was just traumatized by the death of her father and she had to break out of that silence and once she did, she was normal again.


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22 Jan 2019, 7:53 am

Gabe Slate from The Collector - a Canadian TV show. He's a non verbal , low functioning autistic child.



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23 Jan 2019, 12:43 am

The show The Good Doctor's main character has autism, which is one of the reason's I watch the show. There is a movie from 1986 called The Boy Who Could Fly where one of the main characters is a boy with autism, who is also mute.



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23 Jan 2019, 6:58 am

Has everyone forgotten Raymond from Rain Man?

Julia from Sesame Street.


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23 Jan 2019, 10:00 am

How about Monk? He's supposed to be, primarily, OCD---but I see autistic traits in him.



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23 Jan 2019, 9:40 pm

Queens of Geek by Jen Wilde is written by an autistic author and has a very realistic, nuanced portrayal of an autistic character.