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27 May 2007, 12:55 pm

gwenevyn wrote:
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Is that what no cognitiave delay means, no learning disabilities?


To my understanding, no. "No cognitive delay" means that the individual described functions at or above the average expectations re: intellectual ability and knowledge base, for his or her chronological age. It does not negate the possibility of learning differences.



Does it also mean no problems in figuring stuff out? No comprehen problems?



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27 May 2007, 12:59 pm

likedcalico wrote:


Does it also mean no problems in figuring stuff out? No comprehen problems?


I'm no clinician, but I really don't believe so. I think the term just means that you are able, intellectually, to get to "point B". They don't care whether you sprinted or used a wheelchair, as long as you got there.



28 May 2007, 3:25 am

Maybe I don't have cognitive delays. Criterias are so complicated to understand.



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28 May 2007, 3:56 am

The paediatrician we saw stated there is a grey area between getting diagnosed and personality traits.

I did the Aspie quiz expecting to be classified NT. But it told me I have both NT and Aspie traits.

That explained a lot.

I feel so comfortable on WP and have always felt comfortable with 'weird' people. In fact I was often accused of being weird.

Professionally I feel extremely comfortable talking to new people and carrying on conversations because I have that mask.

But in a lot of social situations I feel uncomfortable, and can't stand the small talk.

I've never liked nightclubs - too loud and smelly!

I now have 2 sons diagnosed with Asperger's and always thought they inherited it from my husband. But I think my genes have a lot to do with it too!

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28 May 2007, 5:00 am

I hate the Aspie expression I prefer refer to all categories of autistics as Autistics .
The expression Aspie feels like as "smarter special autistic " , kinda of discrimination based on stupid measure such as IQ and speech delay.

Maybe because I am HFA I feel that way ...maybe i am mistaken .

I think doctors should create new measure of autism in degrees terms like in myope but this classification of LFA , HFA , AS is stupid and discriminative in my opinion .



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28 May 2007, 7:15 am

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If you don't meet the AS criteria you don't have AS. That's what a few people say on here. I don't quite meet it but I almost did.

Don't think of them as "criteria", they are more like "guidelines".

And by the way, "border aspie" feels too PC. I am more into "lesser aspie".



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29 May 2007, 9:27 am

I'm probably somewhere at a midpoint between ADD and AS. Instead of borderline, I'd call it half-aspie, part aspie, or someone with some AS traits. Didn't think about the use of the word borderline. What if the person is at the midpoint between a borderline NT and borderline AS? That would create a problem. It could be called midpoint NTAS. If borderline AS and borderline NT were at the same point, then the only difference would be the starting point...


EDIT: Thought about this some more and realize I reference it all to AS. If I referenced it to NT, then it could be any type of mental difference, not only autistic differences. I guess this would create less problems with the borderline NT/AS descriptions, since most people would probably never use borderline NT unless they weren't sure what they had anyway.



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29 May 2007, 10:16 am

This article describes "levels" of autism:
http://www.autismresearchcentre.com/doc ... cology.pdf

I think I am around 4 to 5, I guess that's "bordeline".



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29 May 2007, 10:22 am

In any case, isn't AS really "borderline autism"?



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29 May 2007, 10:31 am

vodzy wrote:
In any case, isn't AS really "borderline autism"?


Hence the term "spectrum".

NT<-------------Aspergers----------------->LFA



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29 May 2007, 10:39 am

Bimbo<-----NT--------Aspergers--------HFA--------->LFA