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30 Jun 2017, 6:51 am

Goth Fairy wrote:
I don't think it's a cause and effect in that order. Yes, some people who wear unfashionable clothes get bullied, but I think the bullying happens for another reason and the clothes may make an easy target.
A "cool" person can wear unfashionable clothes and be considered eccentric or starting a new trend.
I think bullies can somehow sense the lack of confidence in certain people, and then pick on them for anything they can find.
I think that the condition (whatever it is) that causes a person to be bullied may also mean that they are less interested in keeping up with fashion or have less ability to keep up with fashion.
But I may be wrong.

You may have a point.
However, at school I learned that dressing a certain way may decrease bullying a bit.
I don't know how much of it depends of the culture but wearing simple, conservative yet casual sets and avoiding anything catching attention (esp. logos and writing) helped. Neutral colors. Black and grey. Classic.

I know it would be a pain for some to wear like that. It's not obligatory. It's just a way to maximize your chance to be left alone.


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30 Jun 2017, 9:40 am

Isn't the problem the bully, not the clothes? Why should people have to change their clothes to stop bullying? Some people have sensory issues that prevent them from wearing fashionable clothes.



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30 Jun 2017, 11:17 am

Goth Fairy wrote:
I don't think it's a cause and effect in that order. Yes, some people who wear unfashionable clothes get bullied, but I think the bullying happens for another reason and the clothes may make an easy target.
A "cool" person can wear unfashionable clothes and be considered eccentric or starting a new trend.
I think bullies can somehow sense the lack of confidence in certain people, and then pick on them for anything they can find.
I think that the condition (whatever it is) that causes a person to be bullied may also mean that they are less interested in keeping up with fashion or have less ability to keep up with fashion.
But I may be wrong.


Mainly this.

They bully you because of you, not because of your clothes. Clothes is just an afterthought thing to latch onto as the means to hassle you.

But with some caveats.

You can make some rather lethal fashion blunders that will get folks thinking that you're not normal.

For males those would be things like going around with your shirt half tucked in and half tucked out, or wearing a plaid shirt with plaid pants. Wearing the same clothes more than one day in a row is also in that category.



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30 Jun 2017, 10:15 pm

I don't think it's a cause and effect in that order. Yes, some people who wear unfashionable clothes get bullied, but I think the bullying happens for another reason and the clothes may make an easy target.
A "cool" person can wear unfashionable clothes and be considered eccentric or starting a new trend.
I think bullies can somehow sense the lack of confidence in certain people, and then pick on them for anything they can find.
I think that the condition (whatever it is) that causes a person to be bullied may also mean that they are less interested in keeping up with fashion or have less ability to keep up with fashion.
But I may be wrong.
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yes, it is easy to spot someone wearing unfashionable clothes. and then bully them.

someone that is not socially cool, that wears fashionable clothes, takes a little more energy to spot. but in k-12, especially jr high school, you are held captive for several hours a day. sooner or later you notice if someone is not socially cool.

someone wearing unfashionable clothes might not have enough money to get fashionable clothes. or just might not like fashionable clothes.

there are numoerous reasons why someone gets bullied. unfashionable clothes makes someone stand out as a target for victimization. but many things make someone stand out as a target.



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01 Jul 2017, 12:02 am

Goth Fairy wrote:
I don't think it's a cause and effect in that order. Yes, some people who wear unfashionable clothes get bullied, but I think the bullying happens for another reason and the clothes may make an easy target.
A "cool" person can wear unfashionable clothes and be considered eccentric or starting a new trend.
I think bullies can somehow sense the lack of confidence in certain people, and then pick on them for anything they can find.
I think that the condition (whatever it is) that causes a person to be bullied may also mean that they are less interested in keeping up with fashion or have less ability to keep up with fashion.
But I may be wrong.


I agree with this. Weird people can dress nice and they're still weird, cool ppl can get 2nd hand clothes and own it to a certain extent.
I was going to contribute a mini essay about my crack pot theories about fashion and social status etc. I'll leave it at, If you can afford to wear fashionable or up market clothes($130aud for converse all stars doesn't hurt you), I would recommend doing it. I wore hand me downs until I was 18. My social skills weren't awful and I kinda got away with it but the stakes can be set pretty high in this world. There are enough forces pushing against me, I don't want to make life hard for myself, I don't really care about fashion but if I'm hoping for a good first impression, I don't need this stuff working against me.. I'm basically saying bow to peer pressure sometimes if there are no long term consequences.



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01 Jul 2017, 5:25 am

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I used to wear pants like that a few years ago. I got teased so much. For a while I held the fort but eventually I had a nervous breakdown from repeated harassment from people. I think I might have managed it had I lived in London or New York City but I was in a provincial town.



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01 Jul 2017, 5:26 am

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I used to wear pants like that a few years ago. I got teased so much. For a while I held the fort but eventually I had a nervous breakdown from repeated harassment from people. I think I might have managed it had I lived in London or New York City but I was in a provincial town.

yeah, I don't think anyone would say anything about those here in Los Angeles.


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01 Jul 2017, 8:44 am

As strange as it may seem, I often experienced two sides of the same coin while growing up. There were times when I was bullied because I did not wear the "in" clothes. At the time, my family could not afford them (and I did not care either way). Scientists are not known for their fashion sense, practicality and safety is more important. For a long time, my typical wardrobe consisted of various car show t-shirts, cheap black pants and cheap sneakers. That was what I wanted to wear. Well, it made no sense to others in my class, so they tried everything that they could to make fun of whatever I was wearing that day.

On the other side of the coin, I would often wear a high end watch (inherited) to school. I wore it to remember who had gave it to me. It set my bullies off because they could not afford a real one. They thought I should not be wearing it because I did not belong to the social class that they ascribed to having that type of status item.

Either way, I was screwed.



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01 Jul 2017, 11:50 am

fifasy wrote:
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I used to wear pants like that a few years ago. I got teased so much. For a while I held the fort but eventually I had a nervous breakdown from repeated harassment from people. I think I might have managed it had I lived in London or New York City but I was in a provincial town.

Those are cool pants. Reminds me of something a hipster would wear.



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01 Jul 2017, 7:55 pm

I've always had an unorthodox fashion sense. And if anyone wants to complain about it, they clearly don't have much else to worry about.

I hate most trends and I don't care.


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01 Jul 2017, 8:02 pm

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fifasy wrote:
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I used to wear pants like that a few years ago. I got teased so much. For a while I held the fort but eventually I had a nervous breakdown from repeated harassment from people. I think I might have managed it had I lived in London or New York City but I was in a provincial town.

yeah, I don't think anyone would say anything about those here in Los Angeles.

You'd get compliments in lots of cities on the west coast. I'd love to have that same fabric in a pair of pleated pants with belt loops.


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01 Jul 2017, 10:55 pm

Can attest to this, I don't know anything about what is fashionable because when I have bothered trying to comprehend the angles and depths of what is hip or desirable for a fleeting expanse of timid time, it just incenses and disturbs me too much. I wear whatever the hell I think is comfortable and cheerful to my own eyes and limbs, I couldn't give a hoot how it seems to others. I briefly analyze how offensive it would be to look at and don't see much wrong compared to what others choose to wear but I sometimes get beeped at or dirty looks, I am too wearied by them at this point to be concerned. Not like I go out wearing bloody clown gloves, cowboy hat, silk thong, knee length socks and a ripped vest.



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02 Jul 2017, 12:42 am

Goth Fairy wrote:
I don't think it's a cause and effect in that order. Yes, some people who wear unfashionable clothes get bullied, but I think the bullying happens for another reason and the clothes may make an easy target.
A "cool" person can wear unfashionable clothes and be considered eccentric or starting a new trend.
I think bullies can somehow sense the lack of confidence in certain people, and then pick on them for anything they can find.
I think that the condition (whatever it is) that causes a person to be bullied may also mean that they are less interested in keeping up with fashion or have less ability to keep up with fashion.
But I may be wrong.


I second this. I know a girl that only wears thrift store clothing - very vintage looking styles you don't see girls wear typically. She is always complimented and even models herself on social media. It's definitely something to do with confidence, or a lack thereof. I used to wear vintage thrift store (more like "outdated") clothing as a kid, and was constantly picked on for wearing them. I remember still, the most popular girl in my grade, saying "Why don't you ever wear jeans?!" ... I used to wear corduroy pants or overalls, or cotton pants mostly.


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02 Jul 2017, 5:15 am

fifasy wrote:
I've noticed this where I live. I know two men - one an Aspie, another with a diagnosed mental illness. Both have had intense and upsetting bullying.

They also both wear relatively unfashionable clothes. Both often wear T-shirts that contain very largely printed brand names like Henleys and Hugo Boss. Now while neither of those brands are necessarily unfashionable I found out through my own experience that wearing a large brand name is considered a fashion sin.

Most people tend to say let the item of clothing do the talking, not the label name. If the label is too visible it creates the impression someone is trying too hard.

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Oh well , shows how out of touch I am with fashion then - I wear t-shirts & hoodies with large logo's :roll:

My dress sense hasn't changed since my late teens ( 3 decades ago ).

Luckily I'm the type of guy who doesn't get bullied ( due to my physical appearance )


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02 Jul 2017, 10:17 am

People do wear some really weird stuff these days.

There was someone presenting the weather on the telly the other day and the sleeves on her top were different lengths. Then what is all this about "cold shoulder" sleeves. Why wear a sleeve that is sleeveless on the outside over the shoulder area, but has flapping fabric around your elbow?

I also don't get why people will wear jeans with huge great big holes in the legs (several square inches missing), yet will throw an item of clothing away that doesn't normally have holes in because it has a tiny imperceptible hole in the hem.

Really I have come to wonder if those of us who pick one style of clothes we like, and wear it all the time, are more confident than those people who chop and change styles on a daily/weekly basis.

Maybe certain people bully others as it reflects their own insecurity about their clothing choices.



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02 Jul 2017, 11:01 am

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people who bully based on something so frivolous as a person's clothing are not people i'm interested in caring about. they've only made themselves more obvious.

admittedly, the only person who can get to me when it comes to this is my mother. but rather than change my appearance i just laugh.


That's the way I see it. I just have to laugh at the vanity of those people.


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