Those of you with food aversions/issues - can you explain?
I like least. Wet/dry... prefer thick gloop. Don't really like dry, and can't eat out of a puddle(thin sauce or gravy). I prefer soft and sloppy texture and don't like strong flavours.
Ideal meal for me would be pasta with a sauce that I can just spoon down... but I am trying harder to diversify lately for health reasons.
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I keep trying to figure this out! This is what I do with ramen. Just boil it until it's just a bowl of mush! I don't know how it works. 99 times out of a hundred, this is the best. I've started adding colour to it, pineapple, corn or salami. By all the rules, it should be a hard "no," but it just works. I can't do smoothies and all that, and I usually drain the ramen in a strainer, but one day I forgot it on the stove and it became pasty and I just put the packet of sauce with it and ate it.
1 time out of a hundred I start retching as soon as I close my mouth around the spoon and it gets bad, but that's rare.
It's become my relaxing, zero stress comfort food. I don't want to ruin the magic by analyzing it too much. It's my "Get Out Of Awkward Hunger" ace up my sleeve.
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I actually purchased reusable squeeze pouches with a sort of ziplock-like enclosure at the end to try to place new pureed foods into it - he wasn't having it and wouldn't touch anything I put inside of it, even if it was a "preferred" food... even after forcing him to take a least one taste to "prove" what was inside was "OK/safe", he was done and would always shut down.
Packaging/brand sameness is a huge factor for him. Like I mentioned, he will now only eat a single brand of yogurt and fruit/veggie pouches (even though he used to eat a variety of different brands with similar packaging). One type he used to eat just changed the graphics on the pouch and he has refused to eat that kind since. He is even particular about his juice boxes - I personally can't tell the difference between Juicy Juice and Minute Maid apple juice... but he seems to!
Ugh. It is such a struggle. He is underweight too, so I worry so much about him lacking proper fat, protein, and nutrition for his little growing brain.
Thank you to all who have responded so far! I appreciate it!
As for advice on how to expand his diet, I would recommend trying to find foods with similar textures or tastes. I know you mentioned that he eats crunchy carbs like goldfish and Cheerios- have you tried any other snack-type foods like that with a similar taste? Does he eat any other cereals? I definitely think that the fact he only likes some foods in a squeeze pouch means he has a hard time putting a lot of food in his mouth at once. So, as a result, things like crunchy snacks are a appealing because they are easily eaten and don't trigger that gag reflex that things like, say, bread might. I hope you are able to find more ways to expand his diet. Good luck!
Yeah- like what Pieplup said, the fact he only likes certain brands is probably due to both the taste and a ritualistic need for "sameness." Some of us on the spectrum have a really good sense of taste, so while Juicy Juice and Minute Maid may taste the same to you, your son can taste the subtle differences between the two. That being said, some of what you describe sounds like some of his issues with food stem from a resistance to change in his environment. The graphics thing especially rings a bell (I refused to drink Juicy Juice ever again when they changed the label ). I would suggest slowly introducing things and working on the resistance to change. You don't want to scare him by changing things he likes all of a sudden, so try giving him what he normally eats, but maybe give him one bite of something other than the food he is used to. I know I would get overwhelmed and very upset if somebody started trying to give me something other than what I liked to eat without warning me in advance.
I know you say he's nonverbal, but that doesn't necessarily imply that he can't comprehend speech, so I would maybe use visuals and speech to slowly introduce new foods into his diet. One example might be printing out a picture of the food he refuses to eat, and telling him that next time he wants a snack he likes, he should try one bite of whatever you want him to eat. Autistic people generally do better with visuals than verbal instruction, so that's why I would show him the visual as well as telling him. As time goes on, try giving him a little more of the food he doesn't want each day until he starts eating it willingly with the food he does like. That's just a suggestion, so I can't say it will work, but I think working on his resistance to change might help to expand his diet, at least a little.
I hope you find a way to introduce new foods into his diet! People with ASD can be absolutely horrible in regards to eating as well as change (I'm speaking for myself here ), so don't give up yet! My cousin reused to eat a lot of foods for a while, but she eventually started eating more and more. Have you tried vitamins or protein drinks (I know you said he was underweight), or does he refuse those as well? Good luck! Hope this helps.
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I know you say he's nonverbal, but that doesn't necessarily imply that he can't comprehend speech, so I would maybe use visuals and speech to slowly introduce new foods into his diet. One example might be printing out a picture of the food he refuses to eat, and telling him that next time he wants a snack he likes, he should try one bite of whatever you want him to eat. Autistic people generally do better with visuals than verbal instruction, so that's why I would show him the visual as well as telling him. As time goes on, try giving him a little more of the food he doesn't want each day until he starts eating it willingly with the food he does like. That's just a suggestion, so I can't say it will work, but I think working on his resistance to change might help to expand his diet, at least a little.
That's trickery, man. I'm just saying. Personally having gone the full round of people trying to get you to eat what you don't want, that "Do this if you want to eat that" method is really hard. And with a non-verbal kid? When he goes, "I'm just not going to eat anything," how is that going to get resolved?
I could get talked out of fasting when I was small, but only sometimes. I could be cajoled/threatened. Very submissive. But there were still several times where I just put my foot down to people trying to break down my "resistance to change." Yeah, he needs nutrition, and I'm not suggesting bending over backwards to facilitate him because food can be expensive and this too can build resentment, but gimmicks and tricks and bribing and denial... I really don't think that's the way to go.
The parent-child bond with the autistic child is too tenuous I think for that kind of stuff to go over well. You ever see children literally running in tears when it's lunchtime? Nothing is wrong with the food in real life, yes, and it's for his own good, yes. But perception is reality for children. You keep exposing them to things they perceive negatively, you get permanently associated with that, they start expecting that gag-reflex and it starts becoming automatic insofar as even previously safe foods set it off. And then it's the other parent who has to become the "feeder." Then a sibling. Then the teachers at school...
It's not a purely psychological thing. Things taste different. Things feel different. Children that age aren't thinking, "I should eat this for nutrients, mummy knows best." And when he's already non-verbal and you don't know how much he's actually processing... I've seen that whole thing go horribly horribly wrong more times than not. With kid hospitalized with tubes down there throat tied to the bed being force-fed... It doesn't need to get to that point.
As my pediatrician had to tell my mother once upon a time, "the key thing is to keep the child eating. Doesn't matter what. Just keep the child willing to eat." A child who trusts you with food will willingly try out a range of vitamin supplements. Over time, tolerance for other foods will inevitably increase. Eating needs to be a positive experience for that to happen. Trying to break down the resistance, has a very common side-effect of that resistance just getting fortified instead of naturally eroding. (This is from a rectal suppository-supplements child). They might never be able to go to a buffet but most manage to get to a stable enough place by the early teenage years. Not me, but I have some kind of food-PTSD.
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I know you say he's nonverbal, but that doesn't necessarily imply that he can't comprehend speech, so I would maybe use visuals and speech to slowly introduce new foods into his diet. One example might be printing out a picture of the food he refuses to eat, and telling him that next time he wants a snack he likes, he should try one bite of whatever you want him to eat. Autistic people generally do better with visuals than verbal instruction, so that's why I would show him the visual as well as telling him. As time goes on, try giving him a little more of the food he doesn't want each day until he starts eating it willingly with the food he does like. That's just a suggestion, so I can't say it will work, but I think working on his resistance to change might help to expand his diet, at least a little.
That's trickery, man. I'm just saying. Personally having gone the full round of people trying to get you to eat what you don't want, that "Do this if you want to eat that" method is really hard. And with a non-verbal kid? When he goes, "I'm just not going to eat anything," how is that going to get resolved?
I could get talked out of fasting when I was small, but only sometimes. I could be cajoled/threatened. Very submissive. But there were still several times where I just put my foot down to people trying to break down my "resistance to change." Yeah, he needs nutrition, and I'm not suggesting bending over backwards to facilitate him because food can be expensive and this too can build resentment, but gimmicks and tricks and bribing and denial... I really don't think that's the way to go.
The parent-child bond with the autistic child is too tenuous I think for that kind of stuff to go over well. You ever see children literally running in tears when it's lunchtime? Nothing is wrong with the food in real life, yes, and it's for his own good, yes. But perception is reality for children. You keep exposing them to things they perceive negatively, you get permanently associated with that, they start expecting that gag-reflex and it starts becoming automatic insofar as even previously safe foods set it off. And then it's the other parent who has to become the "feeder." Then a sibling. Then the teachers at school...
It's not a purely psychological thing. Things taste different. Things feel different. Children that age aren't thinking, "I should eat this for nutrients, mummy knows best." And when he's already non-verbal and you don't know how much he's actually processing... I've seen that whole thing go horribly horribly wrong more times than not. With kid hospitalized with tubes down there throat tied to the bed being force-fed... It doesn't need to get to that point.
As my pediatrician had to tell my mother once upon a time, "the key thing is to keep the child eating. Doesn't matter what. Just keep the child willing to eat." A child who trusts you with food will willingly try out a range of vitamin supplements. Over time, tolerance for other foods will inevitably increase. Eating needs to be a positive experience for that to happen. Trying to break down the resistance, has a very common side-effect of that resistance just getting fortified instead of naturally eroding. (This is from a rectal suppository-supplements child). They might never be able to go to a buffet but most manage to get to a stable enough place by the early teenage years. Not me, but I have some kind of food-PTSD.
That is why I suggested the visuals as well as language. The problem with resistance to change is that it just doesn't work. Believe me, I am very rigid when it comes to change with anything, not just food. The problem is that he is still developing, and he needs to get nutrition from foods in order to grow up healthy. I'm not quite sure where you got the psychological thing from, as I mentioned in the paragraph before that he obviouly can tell the difference between very similar foods. What is going to happen of he doesn't get the nutrients he needs to grow? I know how hard change can be from my own experience. I throw meltdowns if somebody even talks about moving a piece of furniture. The problem is his diet is going to stunt his growth. Most of the time I would never advocate for something to be changed for someone with an ASD, but when it is detrimental to their health, then I might suggest a way to introduce new foods into their diet. The OP does not need to follow this advice if they dont want to. I would never want a kid to be force fed; thats why I'm recommending that they introduce things slowly. I did not mean to offend you or anybody else, but I just dont want this sweet kid to end up severly growth delayed because of something that could have been prevented. If he refuses the food, then I would definitely stop giving it to him. But if they are able to find something he is willing to eat, then that would be great. Resistance to change isn't all psychological, by the way, it is a coping mechanism to deal with an overwhelming world. I never meant to trick, bribe, or belittle the child, I only meant to help. I only want the OP to do what they think is best for their child.
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Just about a week ago I read a story on a Facebook page for autistic women about a very stern teacher who would stand and wait for this little girl to drink the glass of milk that was poured for her, but the girl just wouldn't. She'd just sit there in silence, and using glasses and straws that came in interesting shapes or colors didn't work at all and the teacher had no idea why. Then the story changes to how it's seen from the girl's point of view. The milk was always put next to the radiator and would sit there for hours before being given to the kids in class. By that time the milk would take on a yellowish tinge and have little curdled lumps in it that only the girl seemed to notice. So telling her to drink the milk was about the same as telling her to drink warm vomit, which of course would be no more appealing no matter what unusual glasses or straws it was poured into. The girl could have just told this to the teacher, but selective mutism would render her speechless.
I don't know if that helps to know how to help him eat more variety, but I thought it might help to understand why kids on the spectrum have such aversions to food, even when it isn't slightly soured milk. It makes me glad the milk we got in school was refrigerated, though.
OK, here goes. I have real issue with baby foods, to me they are: Porridge, Rice pudding, Sago, Tapioca pudding, Semolina, if fact anything sloppy I find totally disgusting. As for eggs, I retch even thinking about them. As a child I could not even sit in the same room as someone eating eggs, I find them in any form utterly disgusting and even today . All of my food has to be crisp and well done. Soup I can handle but It has to be Tomato (Heinz) Chicken (Heinz) or good quality Mushroom (absolutely not Heinz) As a child I would only eat Burgers, Fish cakes, Fish Fingers, Sausages, Chicken or Chips. I am much better as an adult although I will still not eat any of the above foods. If I eat out and anyone puts gravy on my food (Think of the textures above) I will send it back to the kitchen, I cannot eat it, its disgusting.
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For me its a combination of texture, taste, the sensation I associate the taste with (e.g. some foods I would eat for the sake of nostalgia or because I link it to a good experience) and whether or not the environment i'm in is ideal for eating/drinking in, sometimes when i was a kid i felt limited because people were always watching me eat and that always put me off, and as a sort of person with OCD about cleanliness I, even today, admit to using plastic cutlery because my mind thinks metal is never truly clean, recycled plastic may still be dirty or the water still contains germs from the sewage further down the line.
For me my issues with food involved difficulty coping with the textures of various foods. My issues were worse when I was younger but have gradually expanded my taste pallet by using CBT and systematic desensitization to foods which I had an aversion to.
For example I didnt have a hamburger till I was like 17 years old because of the texture of ground meats. I couldn't stand the texture of tomatos, I couldn't tolerate the bits of onions in my tomato sauce, didn't like the texture of most vegetables. I was very, very picky. I still have difficulties coping with textures of certain foods. Like Tapioca pudding that I had in the hospital, I liked the taste but couldn't reconcile the texture of the tapioca balls that were in it, so I wouldn't eat it. Up until a month ago, I would avoid rice pudding as well but was able to desensitize myself to my aversion to the texture in rice pudding by challenging my fears, forcing myself to try the food, and allow myself some time to get used to the texture. Had someone else forced me to try rice pudding rather than it being my choice to try it, I would have had a lot of anxiety and probably wouldn't continue to eat it on my own nor enjoy it or I simply would have refused to try it in the first place.
As a kid I would eat the same bowl of oatmeal every morning for like a decade and would sit in the same chair at the same spot at the table and use the same style of glass, same size spoon, etc etc. I would even pour the ingredients in the same order. I had and still have an insistence on sameness, routine, and predictablility which is why I would eat the same food over and over and over. It made my life easier to cope with. If there were any changes, it would have to be changes that I would make on my own initiative rather than changes imposed on me by others or it would cause me a lot of anxiety and stress.
I have a 2.5-year-old son with moderate ASD (non-verbal). He has had issues with eating since about 12 months of age.
Currently he will only eat:
1) A single brand of yogurt that comes in a squeeze pouch. He will not eat yogurt from a spoon, even if I squeeze the yogurt from the pouch onto the spoon in front of him.
2) A single brand of fruit/veggie baby food puree in a squeeze pouch.
3) Crunchy carbs like goldfish crackers, cheerios, etc.
4) He will only drink juice from a juice box - must be in juice box form with a tiny straw. No water, no milk, no open cups, etc.
That's it.
We have been taking him to OT feeding therapy for a year and have made zero progress.
So my question is to those of you with food aversions/eating issues - what causes your aversion to eating? Is it fear-related? Something else? As I mentioned above, my son isn't verbal, so I can't simply ask him what is going on inside of his head as far as food is concerned. Any advice that I could try to help him expand his diet a bit more?
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Lol. I was one of those children who refused to be breastfed. They had to test out a variety of brands of milk and allegedly I would only drink one - my mother still laughs about how I picked out the one that tasted the worst.
My earliest memories involve worrying about food. When I was around three, I remember consciously making the decision to put my foot down as to what I wasn't going to eat, and to this day... I've not become a "free-eater".
1) PRESENTATION -
Separate > Mixed. If a meal can be separated out into it's ingredients, it was easier to eat. Google "pelau". My sister would separate peas, rice, carrots, corn, meat... And I'd eat it grain by grain.
Dry > Wet. The drier, the better. Too many sauces trigger disgust. Ketchup was okay, or mustard. By around ten I could combine the two, and use small amounts of gravy also, by about 13 I could do curry. My mother would bake my meals to dry them out for me. I don't know how this works, but I prefer to have a drink and eat desiccated food than to have anything that's still "juicy"
Colour Bland is better. That wheat pasta colour. More than three colours evoke suspicion. I was in my twenties by the time I was good with pizza with more than 2 toppings (Hawaian is still the only one i'm good with), and I still have to prep myself for Neapolitan Ice Cream.
Certain colours have to be avoided too. Eggplant purple for example. Any colours too dark, like greens, or too bright, like yellows. Bland pastel stuff is easiest. Like apples, and pears, for fruits as opposed to strawberries.
Exposure Box is good, eg, fast food boxes > Plastic container (get dark ones that don't stain) > plates (get ones without a lot of grooves or ornamentation).
Flat white ceramic is best for me. Disposable white plates straight from a pack are good too. Let him have his own dishes that he doesn't see other people using.
2) TEMPERATURE
Heat Scalding, steaming hot is the only way to go. If it needs someone to blow it, let the child do it or put it in front of a farm. Once I get that food scalding hot, even the worst things get more edible.
Cold works as long as it's cold. Mildly chilled is bad. Lukewarm is the worst. Lukewarm milk is... Lukewarm milk kept me out of school for about a week because I just couldn't stop vomiting.
3) CONSISTENCY
Transparency Kool-aid/ bottled water is the easiest thing for me to drink out of a glass. If you can see through it, it's good.
Mixture Generally, Solution>Colloid> Suspension is how I have it worked out in my head. Any kind of drink that has stuff in it that settles? Ugh. The more watery a thing is, the easy it is for me to convince myself to eat it. Eg., watermelon and cucumber > pineapple > tomatoes > guava. If you're thinking about fruits.
4) SCENT - some scents are as noxious as say burning tires or rotting bodies are to normal people. I've had to take vomit breaks sometimes just from passing in front of a Subway restaurant with an open door.
5)TEXTURE -
crunch > squish. Eg, Raw vegetables > cooked ones. Burnt crispy food > tender food. Crackers > jello. Crispy burnt eggs > wet messy raw eggs
6)TRUST of SOURCE -
Brands - I can eat fried chicken only from KFC. Just yesterday I increased my Pizza places up to 2. I've been experimenting with Chinese food, and now, I have up to five different places I've eaten Chinese food from, because I think I've done something racist and blended all the cooks into one complete set of Chinese people who are indistinguishable from one another. (I'm still trying to figure how Chinese wood work. Started when I was fifteen, and now, i'm like a pro at eating it without too much fussing. Been maybe a year since I vomited Chinese food back up)
The Cook The number of people who's food I can eat have dwindled down to one. Just my brother. And he's on tenuous ground. I've started cooking for myself, but in the beginning when I was your son's age and through those kindergarten years, I remember giving everyone a chance. And if you did something wrong too many times, that was it, trust was gone. Eg. My grandmother wouldn't stop putting onion in the cheese-paste, so I stopped eating from her when I was maybe 6.
7) TASTE - probably the least important variable. Food getting into my mouth was the problem when I was your son's age, getting it in and keeping it in.
SOCIAL CONTEXT - social pressure to eat, shaming, "Spotlight eating" can work from time to time but it's really traumatizing and overall, family bonding tends to suffer. I had to eat with the nuns when I was in kindergarten under the pictures of Jesus and the cross. Eating for Jesus would get me to do it, but they'd also have to call the ambulance from time to time when half-an-hour later I was projectile vomiting.
My mother used to try "Trading" things I wanted to have or do with eating. Eg, I missed out on seeing Pocahontas because I had to eat Mackerel and lentil stew in order to go and as much as I wanted to go, I couldn't and I think I cried for 2 days and I can't look at that movie or Vanessa Williams without thinking about that.
It's hard, and my mother tried, but with some effort you can figure it out, so that you're son doesn't end up malnourished or throwing up in a pediatric ward.
It's a psychological problem of disgust for me, primarily. Some of the things I see people eating, I wonder, "Jesus, how does your brain work where that's edible?" Mayonnaise literally crawls my blood. It's the kind of biological repulsion a normal person might have from eating snails or slugs or something.
The main thing I would suggest is to not try to force your kid to push back that disgust threshold. Even as an adult who understands how nutrition works and that what I have is essentially a disorder, I still can't forgive some of what my parents did with their good intentions.
Simple meals are really a complicated process. Eating is seriously probably the most stressful thing I do because there's just so many combinations possible. One very wrong thing might trump all the good things and it's frustrating - eg, when my mom made a whole jug of juice just to my settings alone, I wouldn't drink it because the jug she used had had milk in it maybe a month before... I was angry because obviously you can't put juice in a jug that once had milk in it, and she was angry because, well, time and money had gone into it...
I'd suggest going slow, lots of friendly communication where he doesn't feel punished or forced, and keeping a track of what goes right and what goes horribly wrong.
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I know you say he's nonverbal, but that doesn't necessarily imply that he can't comprehend speech, so I would maybe use visuals and speech to slowly introduce new foods into his diet. One example might be printing out a picture of the food he refuses to eat, and telling him that next time he wants a snack he likes, he should try one bite of whatever you want him to eat. Autistic people generally do better with visuals than verbal instruction, so that's why I would show him the visual as well as telling him. As time goes on, try giving him a little more of the food he doesn't want each day until he starts eating it willingly with the food he does like. That's just a suggestion, so I can't say it will work, but I think working on his resistance to change might help to expand his diet, at least a little.
That's trickery, man. I'm just saying. Personally having gone the full round of people trying to get you to eat what you don't want, that "Do this if you want to eat that" method is really hard. And with a non-verbal kid? When he goes, "I'm just not going to eat anything," how is that going to get resolved?
I could get talked out of fasting when I was small, but only sometimes. I could be cajoled/threatened. Very submissive. But there were still several times where I just put my foot down to people trying to break down my "resistance to change." Yeah, he needs nutrition, and I'm not suggesting bending over backwards to facilitate him because food can be expensive and this too can build resentment, but gimmicks and tricks and bribing and denial... I really don't think that's the way to go.
The parent-child bond with the autistic child is too tenuous I think for that kind of stuff to go over well. You ever see children literally running in tears when it's lunchtime? Nothing is wrong with the food in real life, yes, and it's for his own good, yes. But perception is reality for children. You keep exposing them to things they perceive negatively, you get permanently associated with that, they start expecting that gag-reflex and it starts becoming automatic insofar as even previously safe foods set it off. And then it's the other parent who has to become the "feeder." Then a sibling. Then the teachers at school...
It's not a purely psychological thing. Things taste different. Things feel different. Children that age aren't thinking, "I should eat this for nutrients, mummy knows best." And when he's already non-verbal and you don't know how much he's actually processing... I've seen that whole thing go horribly horribly wrong more times than not. With kid hospitalized with tubes down there throat tied to the bed being force-fed... It doesn't need to get to that point.
As my pediatrician had to tell my mother once upon a time, "the key thing is to keep the child eating. Doesn't matter what. Just keep the child willing to eat." A child who trusts you with food will willingly try out a range of vitamin supplements. Over time, tolerance for other foods will inevitably increase. Eating needs to be a positive experience for that to happen. Trying to break down the resistance, has a very common side-effect of that resistance just getting fortified instead of naturally eroding. (This is from a rectal suppository-supplements child). They might never be able to go to a buffet but most manage to get to a stable enough place by the early teenage years. Not me, but I have some kind of food-PTSD.
That is why I suggested the visuals as well as language. The problem with resistance to change is that it just doesn't work. Believe me, I am very rigid when it comes to change with anything, not just food. The problem is that he is still developing, and he needs to get nutrition from foods in order to grow up healthy. I'm not quite sure where you got the psychological thing from, as I mentioned in the paragraph before that he obviouly can tell the difference between very similar foods. What is going to happen of he doesn't get the nutrients he needs to grow? I know how hard change can be from my own experience. I throw meltdowns if somebody even talks about moving a piece of furniture. The problem is his diet is going to stunt his growth. Most of the time I would never advocate for something to be changed for someone with an ASD, but when it is detrimental to their health, then I might suggest a way to introduce new foods into their diet. The OP does not need to follow this advice if they dont want to. I would never want a kid to be force fed; thats why I'm recommending that they introduce things slowly. I did not mean to offend you or anybody else, but I just dont want this sweet kid to end up severly growth delayed because of something that could have been prevented. If he refuses the food, then I would definitely stop giving it to him. But if they are able to find something he is willing to eat, then that would be great. Resistance to change isn't all psychological, by the way, it is a coping mechanism to deal with an overwhelming world. I never meant to trick, bribe, or belittle the child, I only meant to help. I only want the OP to do what they think is best for their child.
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I know you say he's nonverbal, but that doesn't necessarily imply that he can't comprehend speech, so I would maybe use visuals and speech to slowly introduce new foods into his diet. One example might be printing out a picture of the food he refuses to eat, and telling him that next time he wants a snack he likes, he should try one bite of whatever you want him to eat. Autistic people generally do better with visuals than verbal instruction, so that's why I would show him the visual as well as telling him. As time goes on, try giving him a little more of the food he doesn't want each day until he starts eating it willingly with the food he does like. That's just a suggestion, so I can't say it will work, but I think working on his resistance to change might help to expand his diet, at least a little.
That's trickery, man. I'm just saying. Personally having gone the full round of people trying to get you to eat what you don't want, that "Do this if you want to eat that" method is really hard. And with a non-verbal kid? When he goes, "I'm just not going to eat anything," how is that going to get resolved?
I could get talked out of fasting when I was small, but only sometimes. I could be cajoled/threatened. Very submissive. But there were still several times where I just put my foot down to people trying to break down my "resistance to change." Yeah, he needs nutrition, and I'm not suggesting bending over backwards to facilitate him because food can be expensive and this too can build resentment, but gimmicks and tricks and bribing and denial... I really don't think that's the way to go.
The parent-child bond with the autistic child is too tenuous I think for that kind of stuff to go over well. You ever see children literally running in tears when it's lunchtime? Nothing is wrong with the food in real life, yes, and it's for his own good, yes. But perception is reality for children. You keep exposing them to things they perceive negatively, you get permanently associated with that, they start expecting that gag-reflex and it starts becoming automatic insofar as even previously safe foods set it off. And then it's the other parent who has to become the "feeder." Then a sibling. Then the teachers at school...
It's not a purely psychological thing. Things taste different. Things feel different. Children that age aren't thinking, "I should eat this for nutrients, mummy knows best." And when he's already non-verbal and you don't know how much he's actually processing... I've seen that whole thing go horribly horribly wrong more times than not. With kid hospitalized with tubes down there throat tied to the bed being force-fed... It doesn't need to get to that point.
As my pediatrician had to tell my mother once upon a time, "the key thing is to keep the child eating. Doesn't matter what. Just keep the child willing to eat." A child who trusts you with food will willingly try out a range of vitamin supplements. Over time, tolerance for other foods will inevitably increase. Eating needs to be a positive experience for that to happen. Trying to break down the resistance, has a very common side-effect of that resistance just getting fortified instead of naturally eroding. (This is from a rectal suppository-supplements child). They might never be able to go to a buffet but most manage to get to a stable enough place by the early teenage years. Not me, but I have some kind of food-PTSD.
That is why I suggested the visuals as well as language. The problem with resistance to change is that it just doesn't work. Believe me, I am very rigid when it comes to change with anything, not just food. The problem is that he is still developing, and he needs to get nutrition from foods in order to grow up healthy. I'm not quite sure where you got the psychological thing from, as I mentioned in the paragraph before that he obviouly can tell the difference between very similar foods. What is going to happen of he doesn't get the nutrients he needs to grow? I know how hard change can be from my own experience. I throw meltdowns if somebody even talks about moving a piece of furniture. The problem is his diet is going to stunt his growth. Most of the time I would never advocate for something to be changed for someone with an ASD, but when it is detrimental to their health, then I might suggest a way to introduce new foods into their diet. The OP does not need to follow this advice if they dont want to. I would never want a kid to be force fed; thats why I'm recommending that they introduce things slowly. I did not mean to offend you or anybody else, but I just dont want this sweet kid to end up severly growth delayed because of something that could have been prevented. If he refuses the food, then I would definitely stop giving it to him. But if they are able to find something he is willing to eat, then that would be great. Resistance to change isn't all psychological, by the way, it is a coping mechanism to deal with an overwhelming world. I never meant to trick, bribe, or belittle the child, I only meant to help. I only want the OP to do what they think is best for their child.
I know. I was just suggesting a way for the OP to maybe try and get him to try something new so he doesn't end up severely growth delayed. The OP shouldn't follow that suggestion if they don't believe it is going to benefit their child. I was never trying to suggest attempting to eliminate autistic behaviors, but rather a way to allow the behavior while not entirely excluding new experiences in a way that won't be detrimental to the child's health. I completely agree with you to take it slow and stop immediately if he resists, as I mentioned in a previous post. I was not meaning to trick, belittle, or hurt the child. I was merely offering a suggestion, and I don't think the OP should follow it anymore. I screamed and cried when I was little (and even now) when something changed. It could be anything. The only reason I would ever suggest changing something for a person with ASD is when it has negative side effects that hurt their physical and/or mental health. I do not want this child to be pushed out of his comfort zone at all. I know how that feels. But I also don't want him to end up eating nothing at all and ending up severely growth delayed. It's a really tough situation the OP is in, and I want whatever is best for their child. I understand why you were concerned, but I think you may have read my post in a different way then I meant to convey. I apologize for not being more clear.
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I forget who or what I am commenting on, but I wanted to add a few anecdotes of my own.
One day when I was in 5th or 6th grade, I was eating a Lunchable (crackers, meat, cheese, and cookies). I loved the oreo cookies! I liked the crackers too. But the cheese was only tolerated and the lunch meat was slimy and shuddered at.
I already had it in my head that I had to eat all the food; I could not imagine any other option though I would have been grateful for one. The only option was what order to eat the food. I could not stand to make little sandwiches out of the crackers, meat, and cheese. If I ate all of the worst first, then I would give up way before I got to the best. If I ate all of the best first, then I would lose my incentive to eat any of the worst.
So I decided to eat one cracker, then one slice of meat, then one slice of cheese, then one cookie. Then I would start again: cracker, meat, cheese, then cookie. I have always done it this way ever since then. But I do not think I could have accepted this if someone else had suggested it (using my own argument).
Now I have so many rituals around eating. I always use the same plate, bowl, cup, and utensils. I always prepare and eat the food the same way.
I do eat more foods, but there are many rules about the preparation of foods, and the allowed combinations of foods eaten in the same dish, meal, and even day.
But these rules and rituals are not restrictive; they allow me to eat foods that I otherwise would not be able to eat.
Many foods that I cannot eat are because the look, smell, taste, or feel make it seem spoiled and I cannot convince myself that it will not make me sick. If I try to eat some anyway, I gag uncontrollably.
But those foods which were all I would eat before, are still featured the most frequently in my menu today.
My favorite is Taco Bell. I eat it so much that my Service Dog led me to a Taco Bell in the mall today while we were just mall walking. "This is where you want to go, right?"
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31st of July, 2013
Diagnosed: Autism Spectrum Disorder, Auditory-Verbal Processing Speed Disorder, and Visual-Motor Processing Speed Disorder.
Weak Emerging Social Communicator (The Social Thinking-Social Communication Profile by Michelle Garcia Winner, Pamela Crooke and Stephanie Madrigal)
"I am silently correcting your grammar."
But what about the texture/smell bothers you? Does it make you feel nauseous? Or just generally grossed out?
There are a few vegetables and soups that really make me feel nauseous because I don't like the taste. Just the imagination makes me nauseous.
Then there are many things that I can swallow, but don't eat if I don't have to, because I don't want to force myself into something which doesn't give me any pleasure. Eating should be fun, so there's no reason to eat something I don't really like most of the time and I have enough variety in my meals.
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