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05 Aug 2017, 3:23 pm

principa wrote:
Things that speak against it:

-I can’t think of any reason why I shouldn’t understand non-verbal communication. I think I do.


If you were getting it wrong, how would you know? Do you think people would tell you, or just wink at each other behind your back?

principa wrote:
-while I’m a huge introvert by many standards, I always had friends and acquaintances, actually from teens onwards I had many of them, although I can’t relate to most on any significant levels.


If you're not relating on any significant levels, then you're probably not bonding, either, in which case they're all acquaintances and you have no real friends.


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-I don’t talk and talk and talk with others. Mostly I just pretend to listen/ fake interest in chatting.


The only time autistic people prattle is when someone triggers an obsessive personal interest, which happens very rarely. The rest of the time, we just feign interest in others. And that, only if we like them.


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06 Aug 2017, 9:36 am

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I'm sorry for another one of these. I appreciate responses. I think I have many traits. Do you think I could be on the Autism Spectrum, should I seek medical advice? Here are my traits which I think are relevant.

Social skills /empathy:

- I’ve got difficulty with eye contact; I tend to avoid eye contact, and sometimes over-do it. It doesn’t come intuitively to me. And teachers complained that I looked away when they spoke to me when helping me in class.

-I have been called blunt, insensitive and very honest. Cause offense when I point things out sometimes.

-Also someone used to give me her essays to read because I was the one honest enough to find all its issues apparently.
-I like to point out others’ factual, logical and moral errors.

-Cannot see, or want to see, where other people’s incorrect views come from. I have no compassion or mercy for those who do serious wrongs to others.

- Described as cold/aloof sometimes; Don’t know how to comfort people. Don’t like hugs generally. Have never kissed my mum on the cheek or anything, don’t understand what flirting is in practise.

-I have a Flat/monotonte voice, and apparently ‘dead eyes’
- Also got a flat emotionless face all the time almost.
- Can’t recognise faces often, but I think its for unrelated reasons.
-Small talk is pain, but I can do it.
As a child I preferred company of adults, and preferred the news to most kids shows.
-I have a black and white thinking apparently (usually accused as such by irrational pple)


Sensory and behaviour:

-I am sensitive to touch - my dad says I got ‘touch phobia’ (which is an exaggeration).
-I am sensitive to clothes tags and tight cloths, used to rip tags out as child, still do.
-Dont eat some food textures, e.g. mushrooms.
- I do many common ’stimmings’. -I do things with my fingers a lot and I fidget a lot. I rock back and forwards a lot and pace.
- Used to eat the same food everyday, I generally wear the same clothes everyday but with different colours at times (bought same clothes but with different colours basically.)
- Have some ocd traits.
-Got anxiety issues.
-Always had poor motor skills, hand writing is almost impossible to read in exams especially.
- Used to repeat words and sentences a lot. Still do sometimes.
- I get almost hypnotised by things like floating water and certain sounds. Gives me a lot of pleasure.
-I’ve got a clumsy/odd walk
-From childhood had near prodigious memory especially with dates/years.
-Accused of focusing on details and precision when others talk (someone once said ‘’why are you being so pedantic about my words are you autistic or something?’’.)


Special interests;

- focus on them in a way that one hour of studying interest feels like one minute. Time flies, which causes disruption to my life. Interests have usually always been very academic, from childhood until now, its been science, history, languages/linguisitcs, programming, literature/writing, IR, including some very narrow aspects.
- Also as a child I obsessively studied local maps, learned their emblems, area codes etc and redrew them a lot, also collected the local emblems and sort of all I spoke about for a while etc . Still carry this interest to a lesser extent.
- Yes I did have a model train as a child, and love to build houses for it and plant little plastic trees around it etc. Why is this such an ASD stereotype apparently?

Others:

-Idiosyncratic views and personality
-Not dogmatic at all, but when I know I’m right I’m incredible stubborn.
-Always been concerned with justice and right and wrong. Got strong morals, and injustice affects me a lot. Never been prejudicial. Despite what some say, this IS common amongst many with ASD.
Im very emotional, even if I seem robotic.

AQ; 34
SQ; high/extreme systemiser
EQ; low, 18
Aspie quiz (I know not very reliable;) ‘very likely aspie’.



BUT: Things that speak against it:

-I can’t think of any reason why I shouldn’t understand non-verbal communication. I think I do. I remember once I told someone about a society and asked if she wants to join and I could immediately tell she got really bored by the description.
-while I’m a huge introvert by many standards, I always had friends and acquaintances, actually from teens onwards I had many of them, although I can’t relate to most on any significant levels.
-I don’t talk and talk and talk with others. Mostly I just pretend to listen/ fake interest in chatting.

It's hard to tell if someone definitly is autistic on the internet. Because A. You don't know if what they say is an accurate assessment and B. You need what others think. Also, C. You diagnosis comes from actions and behavior. Atleast in my experience, you can tell far more about a person from what you percieve of them than what they percieve of themselves. Also, diagnosing people over the internet especaily via text. Is inaccurate at best. You can never tell for sure. Also, via extreme concentration you can learn to percieve social cues but naturally you wouldn't if that makes any sense. Like if you weren't trying to would you have done that? Probably not... the thing is that you can not tell how someone will act in real life. You can only tell so much from what they say. Though agian, You can tell if someone most definetly is or isn't autistic. People with autism form sentences is a different way. It's always more detailed. A non-autistic person might say "I like trains" an autistic person would say, I like trains then start listing all the reasons they like trains. They/we always give more information needed. So In someways. You can and can't tell. Though, you can't tell for sure if someone is autistic.
None the less, You should go to a 'profesional'. No matter how educated one might be on wrongplanet. Chances are they're not a profesional who could diagnose you. Mainly, because while some profesionals might now about wrongplanet. (Even though it's unlikely) Chances are they will not be active on it. It's like how parent's who come here aren't as active as those with autism. Because it's just a part of their lives. While autistic people come here to communicate with other autistic people. Wait, I'm getting offtopic. I was going to say that they can't diagnose you. Atleast not offically. Unless they just happen to be an autistic psychiatrist. but still it's against the rules to ask people to diagnose you. :wink: imo, You sound autistic don't take this out of context. but You could just be trying to sound autistic. Also behavior is a major part of autism. so you can only tell so much.



That's true, I suppose I wanted to know if I am one of those you can 'rule out' definitely, as you said.



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06 Aug 2017, 9:43 am

ZombieBrideXD wrote:
while you did list off a lot of ASD traits there still should be a assessment to determine whether these traits are a result of ASD or not. this involves finding out if these traits are causing significant problems or if these traits prevent you from functioning independently.


Thanks. Do you know what functioning independently entails?



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06 Aug 2017, 9:55 am

will@rd wrote:
principa wrote:
Things that speak against it:

-I can’t think of any reason why I shouldn’t understand non-verbal communication. I think I do.


If you were getting it wrong, how would you know? Do you think people would tell you, or just wink at each other behind your back?

principa wrote:
-while I’m a huge introvert by many standards, I always had friends and acquaintances, actually from teens onwards I had many of them, although I can’t relate to most on any significant levels.


If you're not relating on any significant levels, then you're probably not bonding, either, in which case they're all acquaintances and you have no real friends.


principa wrote:
-I don’t talk and talk and talk with others. Mostly I just pretend to listen/ fake interest in chatting.


The only time autistic people prattle is when someone triggers an obsessive personal interest, which happens very rarely. The rest of the time, we just feign interest in others. And that, only if we like them.


How do I know? Because I thought of instances where I have understood non-verbal communication. I remember another example where a girl raised her eyebrows to signal scepticism, which I understood, and then she confirmed it by asking 'do you believe that though?'. That, I think, speaks against an ASD diagnosis, despite the repetitive/stereotypical behaviours and interests and other communication/social issues.

For the friends bit, I don't think the definition of a friend must mean having bonds. I think that's the definition of a close friend.



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06 Aug 2017, 3:45 pm

principa wrote:
ZombieBrideXD wrote:
while you did list off a lot of ASD traits there still should be a assessment to determine whether these traits are a result of ASD or not. this involves finding out if these traits are causing significant problems or if these traits prevent you from functioning independently.


Thanks. Do you know what functioning independently entails?


being able to do things without any outside help.

such as getting a job, going to school. self care such as brushing your hair and teeth, showering. cooking. pretty much your everyday life. even socialization. just ask yourself what you are able to do and what are you not able to do. what are the kinds of things you ask for help with.


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