Why there is no cure for Aspergers/ASD

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13 Sep 2017, 1:45 pm

Seriously chaps, sometimes this place worries me.

Do I really have to spell this out... Firstly this thread is so silly I can not be bothered to read it all

Autism is without cure, we don't want to be cured

Er... that's it, the end


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[*]First of all, like said previously it's not an illness therefore how can you cure something you have always had. A cure won't work your personality or neurology. It's simply how you think, the way you act, and the way you perceive the world. You can't fix what isn't broken.
[*]Secondly, Assuming you could cure autism. Said person cured would be a completely different person. Cause autism affects how you interact, and perceive things. Therefore, it would affect your personality. It's like how most autistic people are INTJs or INTPs
[*]Lastly, You can't cure something that you're born with since in order for you to cure something you would have to have caught it in the first place. Saying someone caught autism is ridiculous.


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13 Feb 2021, 9:38 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
Because autism is not a disease or illness.

Well said.



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14 Feb 2021, 4:17 am

Anything can be cured, it's just that many things don't have a cure because of money. It costs millions, if not billions of pounds or dollars to come up with cures for things, and if they were willing to spend a vast amount of money on curing autism then they would, but they won't. The most they can offer is antidepressants or CBT, which is only treatment, not a cure. And even that don't help some Aspies.

I've never been happy with my brain, I so badly want to be NT, no matter how well I am able to pass off as NT and be accepted. I mean, if people these days can change their bodies into the opposite gender because they aren't happy in the gender they're given then why can't I change my neurology because I'm unhappy with the neurology I was given?


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14 Feb 2021, 11:34 am

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Anything can be cured, it's just that many things don't have a cure because of money. It costs millions, if not billions of pounds or dollars to come up with cures for things, and if they were willing to spend a vast amount of money on curing autism then they would, but they won't. The most they can offer is antidepressants or CBT, which is only treatment, not a cure. And even that don't help some Aspies.

I've never been happy with my brain, I so badly want to be NT, no matter how well I am able to pass off as NT and be accepted. I mean, if people these days can change their bodies into the opposite gender because they aren't happy in the gender they're given then why can't I change my neurology because I'm unhappy with the neurology I was given?

Anything that is a disease or an illness can be cured and autism isnt a either of those. Why would you want to be NT?



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14 Feb 2021, 11:45 am

I think of 'can you cure ASD?' as similar to 'can you cure being NT?'

It's not an illness, it's who the person is and was born as.



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14 Feb 2021, 12:20 pm

Sorry, but I can't agree with these black and white positions. ASD has significant debilitating affects on people. Sure, there are people like myself that don't need a cure (whatever that means), but to then say that ASD is not that bad is just a fallacy.

Now, ASD is a neurological condition, so taking a tablet to "cure" and making us "normal" is not going to happen. But there ae those that want to improve their quality of life. That is needed.



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14 Feb 2021, 12:42 pm

Opinions on this will vary depending upon where on the Spectrum the individual is. In the part of the Spectrum where I landed (a mild spot in the area formerly known as Asperger's Syndrome) I would not want a cure--no more than I would want a cure for being INTJ--because I think such a "cure" would really just be a change to my personality, and it wouldn't really be "me" afterwards. Folk in more severe parts of the Spectrum might easily have a different opinion.

Wandering around on WP has, for me, reinforced the wisdom of: "If you've met one Autistic, you've met one Autistic."


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14 Feb 2021, 2:17 pm

Double Retired wrote:
Opinions on this will vary depending upon where on the Spectrum the individual is.


Sure. And as a personal opinion on what you want, it is fine. When you dictate that to others, it might need to be questioned.



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14 Feb 2021, 2:22 pm

I mean for any psychological condition or psychological variation there is not really a true cure.


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14 Feb 2021, 2:29 pm

Dylanperr wrote:
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Anything can be cured, it's just that many things don't have a cure because of money. It costs millions, if not billions of pounds or dollars to come up with cures for things, and if they were willing to spend a vast amount of money on curing autism then they would, but they won't. The most they can offer is antidepressants or CBT, which is only treatment, not a cure. And even that don't help some Aspies.

I've never been happy with my brain, I so badly want to be NT, no matter how well I am able to pass off as NT and be accepted. I mean, if people these days can change their bodies into the opposite gender because they aren't happy in the gender they're given then why can't I change my neurology because I'm unhappy with the neurology I was given?

Anything that is a disease or an illness can be cured and autism isnt a either of those. Why would you want to be NT?


Because the world is catered for NTs.
Because I don't like "lacking" things everyone else finds easy, it makes me feel stupid.
Because I hate the way NT females keep subtly rejecting me, and feeling jealous of others for having lots of friends.
Because I hate the way I get obsessed with things, overly anxious, sensitive to certain noises, hypersensitive to pain, having panic attacks, and beating myself up whenever I make a social error.
Because I feel a sense of shame for having ASD.

I feel like I'm so close to NT yet so far.


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14 Feb 2021, 2:44 pm

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I mean for any psychological condition or psychological variation there is not really a true cure.


"Cure" is a fuzzy word. There are interventions for psychological conditions. And since psychological conditions have a biological source, identifying environmental factors that increase risk for those conditions would be reasonable.



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14 Feb 2021, 2:46 pm

Jiheisho wrote:
CollegeGirlAnon wrote:
I mean for any psychological condition or psychological variation there is not really a true cure.


"Cure" is a fuzzy word. There are interventions for psychological conditions. And since psychological conditions have a biological source, identifying environmental factors that increase risk for those conditions would be reasonable.


I agree.


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14 Feb 2021, 4:22 pm

I think the entire issue is murky. The DSM-5 Autism Spectrum covers quite a range of traits--and each Autie is different. Some folk consider it a disease, some folk consider it a difference. Some with Autism would like a cure, others wouldn't I would not want MINE "cured"! The degree autism is rooted in genetics is apparently still unclear.

But, if it is due to a genetic difference, and if there was a desire to change the genes, then it seems medicine's advances in Gene Therapy might, someday, in some cases, offer at least a partial "cure." Which I would not want for me!


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14 Feb 2021, 6:05 pm

Autism is genetic: trying to cure it is like finding a cure for blue eyes. Blue eyes are a recessive genetic trait, just as those traits in Autism, and yet one is seen as positive and the other as negative. Yes, we may have decoded the human genome, but that really doesn't mean we fully understand it. Why do animals need to sleep? Science doesn't really know why. Jus' sayin'...

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