Autism and being overly supportive/loyal

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Esmerelda Weatherwax
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13 Oct 2017, 10:26 pm

I'm in this club too, or I was. Over time, I pretty much burned out due to the imbalance. Have a cousin & cousin-in-law who aren't AS but do "get" it; told them that as I aged, I realized I don't have friends or acquaintances, so much as I have a "user community". Have pulled WAY back from people. Except them. For now, anyway. Cats are always good, though.


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14 Oct 2017, 10:07 am

Esmerelda Weatherwax wrote:
I realized I don't have friends or acquaintances, so much as I have a "user community".


That's a great way of saying it, story of my life.



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14 Oct 2017, 10:38 am

@starcats: I suspect it may be true for many of us here. Kind of like Williams syndrome - where people are incredibly trusting and open, to their detriment - but with a different genetic basis.


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14 Oct 2017, 1:02 pm

Learning to establish boundaries is important. Not everyone will give you trouble, but some will.

I try to stick to the same people because I don't like change, as long as they're nice.



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14 Oct 2017, 1:03 pm

I tend to be very black/white. I give people I like 100%, but if they betray me or even disappoint me too much I tend to cut them off completely. This is probably a reaction to being used and exploited when I was younger and more naive.


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15 Oct 2017, 3:28 am

Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
I tend to be very black/white. I give people I like 100%, but if they betray me or even disappoint me too much I tend to cut them off completely. This is probably a reaction to being used and exploited when I was younger and more naive.


I am precisely the same way when it comes to NTs. The ones I like I give my all and pay a great deal of attention to them but sometimes I wear them out and they push me away sometimes and then I cut them off completely and disregard them as if they don't exist anymore. It is very much like a black-and-white issue.

I think I do this as a defense mechanism and as a way to protect myself against unneeded frustration because as Aspies our bottles are always full to begin with and we can't afford any more agitation can we?

It's a lonely way of dealing with many NTs that we can't tolerate but such is our dilemma.


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15 Oct 2017, 4:09 am

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...I have a "user community".


Brilliantly said.

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I tend to be very black/white. I give people I like 100%, but if they betray me or even disappoint me too much I tend to cut them off completely.


My experience has been the same as described above. (i.e. Yes, it's personal and no it's you.)


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15 Oct 2017, 4:48 am

BettaPonic wrote:
I don't know of my other issues cause it, but I give a thousand percent to friends who give a hundred percent and it makes me feel bad.


I used to be like this, but then I realized it was 1. Not expected of me. 2. Not appreciated, in fact, in some instances, it may make the person feel uncomfortable, and 3. Not a reasonable expenditure of my energy.

I have since learned how to budget my energy in this regard more wisely.



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15 Oct 2017, 7:57 am

"Overly" "loyal"?

You are"overly" loyal, underly :cry: :D loyal, or correctly loyal

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15 Oct 2017, 10:11 am

I have the opposite problem (it seems). I can't deal with constant contact. I need a huge amount of time alone, in withdrawn / thinking mode.

After a long withdrawn phase coinciding with a burn out period - by the time I'm ready to come out again all friends have decided not to bother any more :( Can't really blame them either. Couldn't really expect them to wait a whole year for me to get stuff together.

(By the way, I'm always thinking of people during away time. I don't really notice time passing. I feel like conversations I had a year or two ago are still underway / could go straight back to them... shame that friends have been living their lives and have forgotten our conversations)

I think my reaction might be an autism-intensified INTP-ish one. Feeling-preferring people can be very confusing for me - NT and ND.