Autism People Don't Daydream???

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04 Jun 2007, 3:08 am

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Recent research reveals fact that most researchers cannot think logically.

hehe, be careful, there are many researchers here at WP

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04 Jun 2007, 3:22 am

tomamil wrote:

nutbag wrote:

Recent research reveals fact that most researchers cannot think logically.

hehe, be careful, there are many researchers here at WP

Honestly, I'd agree with nutbag, exchanging the word "many" for "most". I made a habit of reading scholarly journal articles, and so often under all that smug scholarship, there are some really glaring errors. The peculiarities of a certain popular parenting philosophy are based almost entirely on faulty interpretation of data. It makes me ill.

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04 Jun 2007, 3:27 am

Haha,of course I do. Thats one of the main things I get in trouble for at school! :lol:

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04 Jun 2007, 3:29 am

gwenevyn wrote:

tomamil wrote:

nutbag wrote:

Recent research reveals fact that most researchers cannot think logically.

hehe, be careful, there are many researchers here at WP

oh sure, there are many kinds or researches. many times the results depend on what the researchers were focused on. i am just taking it from the point of view of a researcher who is developing a software for computational modeling of articular cartilage and that way trying to prove that the algorithm we are using is working and giving expected results. where can i be wrong there? it's either working or not. and this is the kind of research which doesn't deserve to be downplayed. i admit that nutbag wrote 'most' researchers, though.

and exchanging for 'many', would make it even better.

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04 Jun 2007, 4:02 am

Maybe this is explained by "autistic fantasy".
http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/treat ... antasy.htm
I may be way off but it does describe the nature of most of my daydreams.
Just a thought.

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04 Jun 2007, 5:07 am

i daydream
especially when i'm in the shower .... errrr .... or when something sets me off thinking about something

(but maybe it's not a classic daydream as such, it's not always good)

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04 Jun 2007, 7:16 am

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In a new study scientists have revealed that people with autism do not daydream.

The resting period usually gives time for areas of the brain to process emotional and reflective thoughts.

The University of California research, in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, compared brain scans of people with autism and those without.

The scientists said the typical social awkwardness seen in autism may be due to this failure of this "daydreaming" brain network.

This study sheds further light on the neurological factors involved in autism says Richard Mills, National Autistic Society

Several regions of the brain are highly active during these periods - including the medial prefrontal cortex, the rostral anterior cingulate and the precuneus.

This activity is suppressed when the brain is doing something which demands understanding, or another intellectual process.

It was found that the activity during rest periods seen in people who did not have autism was absent in those with the condition.

Richard Mills, director of research for the National Autistic Society and Research Autism, said: "The causes of autism are varied, complex and not yet fully understood.

"This study sheds further light on the neurological factors involved in autism and some of the possible implications for differences in the cognitive profile and social behaviour.

"Such findings will add to our understanding of this spectrum of conditions and it is hoped may also be utilised in the development of effective treatments and other approaches."

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage ... +daydream'

I don't agree with that at all, I know I daydream, what is everybody elses opinion? do you daydream?

WOW! What is this daydreaming? I have this thing I THOUGHT was imagination that happened at a time I THOUGHT was the day, and sometimes at night.

I guess I don't have an imagination, as people here describe it, and some say they've PROVEN we don't have it! And if it happened during the day it might be considered a daydream. YIKES!

AND WHOOPS! I just used sarcasm???? YIKES! And I can't help it!

Why do we pay IDIOTS to write things and call them research? I am SICK of IDIOTS redefining language!

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04 Jun 2007, 7:22 am

I daydream all the time.

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04 Jun 2007, 7:51 am

Is it daydreaming when I imagine I am having a speech? I don't visualize anything, I just think the words.

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04 Jun 2007, 8:17 am

The poor grammar in the title grabbed my eye and so I had to read the thread.

tomamil wrote:

TruenoBlues wrote:

True, but didn't scientists also say that:
-Blacks are inferior as fighter pilots(1940s)
-AIDS is a homosexual-specific illness (1980s)
-Lead is a harmless substance (several thousand years, up until the 1970s)
-An extinct animal might not go extinct (celocanth, 1938)
-Agent Orange was harmless (1970s)
Take it with a grain of salt.

once, scientists claimed that dreaming while we sleep lasts only few seconds.
i was a child then and didn't believe them.
then they developed machines that could measure it better and discovered
that we actually dream most of the time in sleep.

Heroin was said not to be addictive, and a lot safer than morphine in Victorian times. Oh how wrong they were.

Anyway, back to topic, I daydream all the time. I've always been described as being in my 'own little world'. I daydream about letting my anger out on ppl's faces and the like. It helps me vent my stress and rage without physical force.

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04 Jun 2007, 9:44 am

I daydream constantly and always have.

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04 Jun 2007, 10:29 am

I'd like to see these scientists define the term daydream. Does daydreaming always have to do with emotional foundation? Last time I checked not. Drifting off into mental 'oblivion' as it may be can be considered daydreaming. Such as you may have a great idea on a character you like, you may spend hours 'dreaming' up possibilities for your future, what you want to do, how you want to solve a certain problem, ect.

Its annoying that because we are not irrational emotional loonies like 80% of the world we're stupid and thus cannot function. HIGH FUNCTIONING. I'd like to take a f*****g megaphone and yell that in their ears a few times.

But lets break this down.
Daydream To dream while awake. Well alright than, next.

Dream - Gosh I sure do love dictionary.com
1. a succession of images, thoughts, or emotions passing through the mind during sleep.

Arn't a good amount of Autistics visual learners and/or visually pattern things, have visual memories, ect. THOUGHTS. Uhm yes. Bravo scientists.

2. the sleeping state in which this occurs.

3. an object seen in a dream.
I see objects, do you see objects? I see objects often.

4. an involuntary vision occurring to a person when awake.

5. a vision voluntarily indulged in while awake; daydream; reverie.

Its quite possible to mentally SEE numerical equations, patterns and things of the like in your head. Isn't the process of mentally calculating something almost instantly in your mind a savant ability? Hasn't it been proven many autistics have great capability of morphing objects in our mind? The Sex ID test I had up here a while ago proved this correct. In the last question where you had to match one object with its rotated twin about 95% of us got at MINIMUM 10/12 correct. Its calculating, physics and mental work. Especially for those who need order, concrete and don't work on "feeling" their way through things? What a thought.

6. an aspiration; goal; aim:

So we don't have goals now? We're just dense workers who do the same repetitive task over and over with no future plans? I think the scientists here are forgetting the idea of HIGH FUNCTIONING autism. Megaphone man, I really need one.

7. a wild or vain fancy.

8. something of an unreal beauty, charm, or excellence.

But hey, what do I know. I'm just an Autistic.
Kind of like no one would listen to my theories when I was young because you know, I'm just a kid.
Only now its I'm just crazy and stupid.

Its really a shame you know, that most of the utmost brilliant people in the world will always be ridiculed by the righteous majority of idiocy.

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04 Jun 2007, 10:50 am

willow wrote:

bullcrap.

everyone daydreams.

Amen to that!

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04 Jun 2007, 11:08 am

That's not true. As a kid I probably spent most of my waking day daydreaming, and still do. You know when you're walking down the street, then a funny daydream plays out in your head and you laugh happily to the bepuzzlement of pedestrians? That's the kind of daydreaming I do all the time. It doesn't have to be funny, it can be serious, metaphysical, anxious, bizarre, sexual, anything. My life practically is daydreaming.

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04 Jun 2007, 11:40 am

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Yeah, that's just one of the things that makes people look at us funny! :lol:

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04 Jun 2007, 12:00 pm

I have have a weird sleep schedule...and the most vivd dreams..the ones I actually remember are the ones that occur when it is already day outside...(or right before i wake up)
But ...lets see...I visualise, imagine, speculate and sometimes brainstorm during the day, but i don't know if that is the same as day dreaming.

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