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03 Jan 2018, 11:04 pm

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My interactions with the cops have been mostly good (except for two). This video was painful to watch.


Yeah I'm pretty detached but I got a little choked up watching that again. It was a pretty big deal on the news. The Buckeye police department now want people with conditions like autism and schizophrenia to wear colored bracelets so they can identify them better. Total nonsense.

Since I can not go anywhere by myself I do not have to worry about this thank gad, but I bet they would go after me a lot if alone, especially now that I look more like an adult.


If I was living in that area I would refuse to wear a coloured bracelet. I wouldn't want the cops to be able to hunt me down, just so they can harass me.


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04 Jan 2018, 1:15 am

I'm sure there are many thousands of uneducated police officers out there who would mistake people like us for some drug-addicted crazy person. There's just not enough information out there to educate police officers about ASDs' many eccentricities and these actions and responses may confuse them into thinking that we're a threat to them or something.

If any police officer pulls me over in my car or stops me on the street I will make it a point to show them my Medic Alert bracelet that says "Autism" just to be on the safe side.

If I get the chance to that is...


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04 Jan 2018, 2:41 am

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^^I'm curious what precipitated the officer approaching the kid in the first place


Maybe the kid made an Ethos appeal.



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04 Jan 2018, 3:39 am

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If any police officer pulls me over in my car or stops me on the street I will make it a point to show them my Medic Alert bracelet that says "Autism" just to be on the safe side.

If I get the chance to that is...

I too have a Medic Alert bracelet saying "Autism" on it. I have worried that if I'm alone and get into a situation where there's police and I can't communicate, I can show them the bracelet and maybe get some understanding.



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04 Jan 2018, 5:15 am

EzraS wrote:
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^^I'm curious what precipitated the officer approaching the kid in the first place

Maybe the kid made an Ethos appeal.

Must have been one whopper of a lie then.

edit: As for the argument you're referencing, you took a series of body blows in that debate, and you kept getting up and giving it back until the mods shut us down. Kudos, and respect for that.



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04 Jan 2018, 6:08 am

Aristophanes wrote:
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^^I'm curious what precipitated the officer approaching the kid in the first place

Maybe the kid made an Ethos appeal.

Must have been one whopper of a lie then.

edit: As for the argument you're referencing, you took a series of body blows in that debate, and you kept getting up and giving it back until the mods shut us down. Kudos, and respect for that.


No body blows or debate from my perspective, just you being an assclown, which I didn't take the least bit seriously. Walrus thought the whole thing was stupid too.



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04 Jan 2018, 6:09 am

EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
^^I'm curious what precipitated the officer approaching the kid in the first place

Maybe the kid made an Ethos appeal.

Must have been one whopper of a lie then.

edit: As for the argument you're referencing, you took a series of body blows in that debate, and you kept getting up and giving it back until the mods shut us down. Kudos, and respect for that.


No body blows or debate from my perspective, just you being an assclown, which I didn't take the least bit seriously. Walrus thought the whole thing was stupid too.

I got my point across, I feel satisfied.



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04 Jan 2018, 6:17 am

Yes. Our lack of eye contact arouses suspicion, and from there it goes into positive feedback. The Police have become a law unto themselves. They refused me a security clearance to get work by just not processing it after I tried to get them to do their job right a couple of times.



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04 Jan 2018, 6:34 am

Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
^^I'm curious what precipitated the officer approaching the kid in the first place

Maybe the kid made an Ethos appeal.

Must have been one whopper of a lie then.

edit: As for the argument you're referencing, you took a series of body blows in that debate, and you kept getting up and giving it back until the mods shut us down. Kudos, and respect for that.


No body blows or debate from my perspective, just you being an assclown, which I didn't take the least bit seriously. Walrus thought the whole thing was stupid too.

I got my point across, I feel satisfied.


And I got to have a good laugh and let loose a little before school started up again. Try not to take yourself too seriously, I most certainly don't.



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04 Jan 2018, 7:10 am

EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
^^I'm curious what precipitated the officer approaching the kid in the first place

Maybe the kid made an Ethos appeal.

Must have been one whopper of a lie then.

edit: As for the argument you're referencing, you took a series of body blows in that debate, and you kept getting up and giving it back until the mods shut us down. Kudos, and respect for that.


No body blows or debate from my perspective, just you being an assclown, which I didn't take the least bit seriously. Walrus thought the whole thing was stupid too.

I got my point across, I feel satisfied.


And I got to have a good laugh and let loose a little before school started up again. Try not to take yourself too seriously, I most certainly don't.

I don't. And again, debate isn't about the debaters, it's about the audience. That's why one should never take things personally in a debate, it makes them emotional and unbalanced, which is not only easy to pick apart for the opposition, but just doesn't play well with the audience.



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04 Jan 2018, 7:51 am

Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
^^I'm curious what precipitated the officer approaching the kid in the first place

Maybe the kid made an Ethos appeal.

Must have been one whopper of a lie then.

edit: As for the argument you're referencing, you took a series of body blows in that debate, and you kept getting up and giving it back until the mods shut us down. Kudos, and respect for that.


No body blows or debate from my perspective, just you being an assclown, which I didn't take the least bit seriously. Walrus thought the whole thing was stupid too.

I got my point across, I feel satisfied.


And I got to have a good laugh and let loose a little before school started up again. Try not to take yourself too seriously, I most certainly don't.

I don't. And again, debate isn't about the debaters, it's about the audience. That's why one should never take things personally in a debate, it makes them emotional and unbalanced, which is not only easy to pick apart for the opposition, but just doesn't play well with the audience.


I figured you were just putting on a performance. For your "audience" no less lulz. You pretty much come across as a character someone is playing. And also another thread deraild because I tossed out a quip and you turned it into multiple exchanges. you must be really lonely.



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04 Jan 2018, 7:55 am

EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
^^I'm curious what precipitated the officer approaching the kid in the first place

Maybe the kid made an Ethos appeal.

Must have been one whopper of a lie then.

edit: As for the argument you're referencing, you took a series of body blows in that debate, and you kept getting up and giving it back until the mods shut us down. Kudos, and respect for that.


No body blows or debate from my perspective, just you being an assclown, which I didn't take the least bit seriously. Walrus thought the whole thing was stupid too.

I got my point across, I feel satisfied.


And I got to have a good laugh and let loose a little before school started up again. Try not to take yourself too seriously, I most certainly don't.

I don't. And again, debate isn't about the debaters, it's about the audience. That's why one should never take things personally in a debate, it makes them emotional and unbalanced, which is not only easy to pick apart for the opposition, but just doesn't play well with the audience.


I figured you were just putting on a performance. For your "audience" no less lulz. You pretty much come across as a character someone is playing. And also another thread deraild because I tossed out a quip and you turned it into multiple exchanges. you must be really lonely.

Anyone that's here is looking for interaction. And no, not an 'act', compartmentalization is a more accurate concept.

Edit: As for derailing based on a quip. If you hit me in the face I'm going to hit you back. If you hit me again, I'll hit you again. From my perspective that process will continue until you either back off, a higher authority stops us, or I tire, and I'm the energizer bunny so that probably won't happen. (When I say you, not you Ezra specifically, but anybody that wants to dance with me.) Wars aren't won by a single battle, they're won by the party that refuses to give up: the last man standing.



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04 Jan 2018, 8:28 am

Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
^^I'm curious what precipitated the officer approaching the kid in the first place

Maybe the kid made an Ethos appeal.

Must have been one whopper of a lie then.

edit: As for the argument you're referencing, you took a series of body blows in that debate, and you kept getting up and giving it back until the mods shut us down. Kudos, and respect for that.


No body blows or debate from my perspective, just you being an assclown, which I didn't take the least bit seriously. Walrus thought the whole thing was stupid too.

I got my point across, I feel satisfied.


And I got to have a good laugh and let loose a little before school started up again. Try not to take yourself too seriously, I most certainly don't.

I don't. And again, debate isn't about the debaters, it's about the audience. That's why one should never take things personally in a debate, it makes them emotional and unbalanced, which is not only easy to pick apart for the opposition, but just doesn't play well with the audience.


I figured you were just putting on a performance. For your "audience" no less lulz. You pretty much come across as a character someone is playing. And also another thread deraild because I tossed out a quip and you turned it into multiple exchanges. you must be really lonely.

Anyone that's here is looking for interaction. And no, not an 'act', compartmentalization is a more accurate concept.

Edit: As for derailing based on a quip. If you hit me in the face I'm going to hit you back. If you hit me again, I'll hit you again. From my perspective that process will continue until you either back off, a higher authority stops us, or I tire, and I'm the energizer bunny so that probably won't happen. (When I say you, not you Ezra specifically, but anybody that wants to dance with me.) Wars aren't won by a single battle, they're won by the party that refuses to give up: the last man standing.


I'm moving this to the random discussion section.

(audience says "thank god")



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04 Jan 2018, 8:31 am

EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
^^I'm curious what precipitated the officer approaching the kid in the first place

Maybe the kid made an Ethos appeal.

Must have been one whopper of a lie then.

edit: As for the argument you're referencing, you took a series of body blows in that debate, and you kept getting up and giving it back until the mods shut us down. Kudos, and respect for that.


No body blows or debate from my perspective, just you being an assclown, which I didn't take the least bit seriously. Walrus thought the whole thing was stupid too.

I got my point across, I feel satisfied.


And I got to have a good laugh and let loose a little before school started up again. Try not to take yourself too seriously, I most certainly don't.

I don't. And again, debate isn't about the debaters, it's about the audience. That's why one should never take things personally in a debate, it makes them emotional and unbalanced, which is not only easy to pick apart for the opposition, but just doesn't play well with the audience.


I figured you were just putting on a performance. For your "audience" no less lulz. You pretty much come across as a character someone is playing. And also another thread deraild because I tossed out a quip and you turned it into multiple exchanges. you must be really lonely.

Anyone that's here is looking for interaction. And no, not an 'act', compartmentalization is a more accurate concept.

Edit: As for derailing based on a quip. If you hit me in the face I'm going to hit you back. If you hit me again, I'll hit you again. From my perspective that process will continue until you either back off, a higher authority stops us, or I tire, and I'm the energizer bunny so that probably won't happen. (When I say you, not you Ezra specifically, but anybody that wants to dance with me.) Wars aren't won by a single battle, they're won by the party that refuses to give up: the last man standing.


I'm moving this to the random discussion section.

We could also just tango through PM, removing the audience and all, but that would be a personal discussion and not a debate.



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04 Jan 2018, 8:59 am

Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
^^I'm curious what precipitated the officer approaching the kid in the first place

Maybe the kid made an Ethos appeal.

Must have been one whopper of a lie then.

edit: As for the argument you're referencing, you took a series of body blows in that debate, and you kept getting up and giving it back until the mods shut us down. Kudos, and respect for that.


No body blows or debate from my perspective, just you being an assclown, which I didn't take the least bit seriously. Walrus thought the whole thing was stupid too.

I got my point across, I feel satisfied.


And I got to have a good laugh and let loose a little before school started up again. Try not to take yourself too seriously, I most certainly don't.

I don't. And again, debate isn't about the debaters, it's about the audience. That's why one should never take things personally in a debate, it makes them emotional and unbalanced, which is not only easy to pick apart for the opposition, but just doesn't play well with the audience.


I figured you were just putting on a performance. For your "audience" no less lulz. You pretty much come across as a character someone is playing. And also another thread deraild because I tossed out a quip and you turned it into multiple exchanges. you must be really lonely.

Anyone that's here is looking for interaction. And no, not an 'act', compartmentalization is a more accurate concept.

Edit: As for derailing based on a quip. If you hit me in the face I'm going to hit you back. If you hit me again, I'll hit you again. From my perspective that process will continue until you either back off, a higher authority stops us, or I tire, and I'm the energizer bunny so that probably won't happen. (When I say you, not you Ezra specifically, but anybody that wants to dance with me.) Wars aren't won by a single battle, they're won by the party that refuses to give up: the last man standing.


I'm moving this to the random discussion section.

We could also just tango through PM, removing the audience and all, but that would be a personal discussion and not a debate.


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05 Jan 2018, 2:39 am

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If any police officer pulls me over in my car or stops me on the street I will make it a point to show them my Medic Alert bracelet that says "Autism" just to be on the safe side.

If I get the chance to that is...

I too have a Medic Alert bracelet saying "Autism" on it. I have worried that if I'm alone and get into a situation where there's police and I can't communicate, I can show them the bracelet and maybe get some understanding.


I am also worried about this because despite my Aspie reputation of being a motormouth there are many situations that are unpredictable and emotionally distressing that cause me to clam right up and I can't communicate properly. That kind of deficiency with the police weighs heavily on my mind and I think everyone like us should have a Medic Alert bracelet for that reason alone.


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