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09 Jan 2018, 10:00 pm

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Schools are designed to produce 19th century clerks using 19th century technology. I hope you can find a few minutes to help direct the education the kids are getting on their own. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc


I haven't seen that before, thanks for sharing!



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09 Jan 2018, 10:03 pm

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Schools are designed to produce 19th century clerks using 19th century technology. I hope you can find a few minutes to help direct the education the kids are getting on their own. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc


I haven't seen that before, thanks for sharing!


I recommend all of Sir Ken's talks, and some of the RSA vids that will probably show up on YouTube as you watch Ken.



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09 Jan 2018, 10:53 pm

Because no one knew what AS was when I was young, nothing helped me in school. What helped was all the independent reading I did, which put me several years ahead of my chronological peers and many of my teachers. So, up to university entrance, I consider myself mostly self-educated.


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10 Jan 2018, 3:44 pm

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I had a tutor who would use animals and my desire to be a veterinarian in order to motivate me. I started volunteering at a real-life animal hospital and my math skills started to improve. I was actually pretty good at algebra and found it pretty easy once my tutor had explained what was expected of me (A LOT of the teachers I had had in public school would just throw questions at the kids and expect the kids to know how to figure them out). It was just basic math I had trouble with.


You were lucky to have someone who helped so much! Do you remember how exactly your tutor made it make sense for you? I struggled so much until one day I noticed it was just finding the pattern to match units on the top and bottom.


By incorporating my special interests. IDK, if my special interests aren't involved, my brain just kinda shuts down and I can't learn anything.


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10 Jan 2018, 8:41 pm

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I had a tutor who would use animals and my desire to be a veterinarian in order to motivate me. I started volunteering at a real-life animal hospital and my math skills started to improve. I was actually pretty good at algebra and found it pretty easy once my tutor had explained what was expected of me (A LOT of the teachers I had had in public school would just throw questions at the kids and expect the kids to know how to figure them out). It was just basic math I had trouble with.


You were lucky to have someone who helped so much! Do you remember how exactly your tutor made it make sense for you? I struggled so much until one day I noticed it was just finding the pattern to match units on the top and bottom.


By incorporating my special interests. IDK, if my special interests aren't involved, my brain just kinda shuts down and I can't learn anything.


I don't know at what point education transitioned from apprenticing to learn specific skills for a job a person wanted to sitting at a desk and being testing on abstract ideas they'll probably never use. Equal access to literacy is a great thing, but it feels like it's gone too far away from useful.



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10 Jan 2018, 8:43 pm

What helped me learn in school most was reading things outside of school before we had the material in school.



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10 Jan 2018, 9:00 pm

starcats wrote:
I don't know at what point education transitioned from apprenticing to learn specific skills for a job a person wanted to sitting at a desk and being testing on abstract ideas they'll probably never use. Equal access to literacy is a great thing, but it feels like it's gone too far away from useful.


It happened when the government started requiring attendance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c58xV-mSNbA



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11 Jan 2018, 3:23 pm

I need practical uses for what I learn.
Reading material needs to be interesting.

I shifted school and they set my reading back by an entire year.
I simply gave up and messed around, sounded very board when I had to read aloud, because I'd read all these books already!
eg "the fox jumped over the fence" you can only sanely read these type of lines once!

Same happened in high school, rote learning without any direction as to what it could be applied to.

Now I'm studying chemistry, electrical engineering, and more - all because I can see an actual application.
The education system is whack!



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13 Jan 2018, 2:41 am

I learned best "by example" or "visual" learning.

It wasn't always possible, so depending on how the subject was taught and what I already knew or was interested in, I either did well or did not.


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13 Jan 2018, 4:50 pm

Did anyone have a good experience in a non-traditional school?



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15 Jan 2018, 8:42 am

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Did anyone have a good experience in a non-traditional school?


I had to end up getting my GED or go to this credit recovery school. I went to the credit recovery school and it was actually pretty good. Everyone was already adults (you couldn't go if you weren't at least 22) so there was no bullying. No one really talked to me, but I kinda preferred that. The teachers did and I was a teacher's pet. But then I was one of few people there who could actually read.


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