Do aspies enjoy the "messy" aesthetic.

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25 Mar 2018, 2:57 pm

I just enjoyed sweeping out my shop for the first time, partly because I'm pretty pleased with the project that left the mess behind, which started from a clean shop. Reasons why I could barely walk through the shop a few years ago included:
A lifelong antipathy to cleaning up because it was always done to suit somebody else's schedule, and really interrupted my flow.
A very long learning curve to be able to remember where things were put away in a new shop.
Very bad memories associated with where every tool used to go.
Disorganized residue from hurried clean-ups, moves, etc.

Understanding the first reason was important, and the others have faded. Now, it makes sense to tidy up at various phases of a project, and not to have too many competing for space and time. Today, I'm moving from woodwork to upholstery, so all the tools and scraps went away, leaving the benches and floor open to sweeping.
The best tip I've seen, though, is not to look at a mess and think about how much work it will be. Don't let yourself touch anything until you have clearly imagined the space in tidy condition. Then, you can't wait to start, and things move quickly, hopefully to places they can be found.



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25 Mar 2018, 4:09 pm

I try to keep shared spaces tidy (I keep my things to minimum there, hold them in one place and always put my trash into the trash bin - but my flatmate keeps leaving her stuff everywhere so I can't say the area is tidy).
But my room is a mess. "Organized" mess but still a mess (I can find pretty much everything and there are areas where types of things are, the only places where is "everything" is my desk and my bed). There is a lot of trash, dishes, clothes and other stuff right now but even when I clean up the room still looks cluttered.

I don't care either way - but I would prefer my flatmate to leave her mess in her own room as I do. It's difficult to clean the common space (we take shifts, one week I clean, the other one she does) when there is a lot of her stuff. I don't know where to put everything and what to throw away, not to mention there is too much of unnecessary work. To clean the floor in hall I need to move 10 pairs of her shoes and she doesn't even seems to be using a half of them - I only keep 2-4 pairs of shoes I currently use by the door inside of my room and the rest is inside my closet.



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25 Mar 2018, 4:16 pm

Dear_one wrote:
I just enjoyed sweeping out my shop for the first time, partly because I'm pretty pleased with the project that left the mess behind, which started from a clean shop. Reasons why I could barely walk through the shop a few years ago included:
A lifelong antipathy to cleaning up because it was always done to suit somebody else's schedule, and really interrupted my flow.
A very long learning curve to be able to remember where things were put away in a new shop.
Very bad memories associated with where every tool used to go.
Disorganized residue from hurried clean-ups, moves, etc.

Understanding the first reason was important, and the others have faded. Now, it makes sense to tidy up at various phases of a project, and not to have too many competing for space and time. Today, I'm moving from woodwork to upholstery, so all the tools and scraps went away, leaving the benches and floor open to sweeping.
The best tip I've seen, though, is not to look at a mess and think about how much work it will be. Don't let yourself touch anything until you have clearly imagined the space in tidy condition. Then, you can't wait to start, and things move quickly, hopefully to places they can be found.
I rent, my house inspection is in two weeks and the place is a tip, so I'm going to try this :)

I don't like things neat, matching, or at all ordered, that part is easy. I do like my things to look well cared for and loved, but I'm not so good at achieving this. I like things to look organic but part of the same whole.



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25 Mar 2018, 4:20 pm

Ha ha. I once lived in a co-op house that had had roommates coming and going for years. I declared that I was going to clean the bathroom completely, and everybody should take their toiletries, towels, etc. out. It had been getting hard to find a place for anything. They grumbled, but complied. Then, I put all the old, unclaimed things in a "free" box, and we all had plenty of room in the cleaned room.
I like to wear my clothes out pretty thoroughly before calling them rags. I produce no hand-me-downs.



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25 Mar 2018, 5:21 pm

I hate clutter. I have too much of it and need to make an effort to get rid of it.



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26 Mar 2018, 12:06 am

I do enjoy the cluttered look. Mostly because I like complexity.


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26 Mar 2018, 12:21 am

I was pretty much forced to overcome my hatred of mess and clutter. In my home, I have no choice. My father likes to horde things and my brother just tosses things wherever. However, as a teenager, I was very vocal and physically expressive of my distaste for clutter and mess. In those days, my brother and I shared a bedroom and I'm certain it was one of the worst experiences of his life. He's about six years younger than me, and I'd always inadvertently wake him up at 3 in the morning because I was vacuuming our bedroom floor or shouting about how the piles of clothes blocking the closet was making me feel, or how angry I was that he just left tools and bits of things lying around on the floor. I couldn't stand looking at all the loose papers stuffed into the corners of things... Growing up, I was a terror and a burden on my family because of my insatiable need to have things neatly and cleanly organized. As I got older, and we no longer had to share a bedroom, I've mellowed out on clutter. Having my own room helped me overcome this.



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26 Mar 2018, 12:42 am

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I think that explains my stance on this well enough.



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26 Mar 2018, 12:44 am

^^^^THAT is SOOO NEAT compared to my place! :o



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26 Mar 2018, 2:19 am

auntblabby wrote:
^^^^THAT is SOOO NEAT compared to my place! :o
That's what I was going to put. I mean, you can see the floor :D



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26 Mar 2018, 2:35 am

Yeah, it's super common amongst us.

I'm an extremely hygienic person, but my room & car are typically cluttered and a bit dusty. I've let my place get really messy and cluttered in the past, way more than I do now. I like clean spaces, but I just don't dedicate a lot of time to cleaning. Some people are irritated by clutter. I don't particularly like it, it's more that I'm not particularly bothered by it. I'm often quite oblivious to it around me and just don't care. But if it gets quite bad and I look and notice and think "whoa.. wtf?" then I'll get into cleaning mode and straighten things out a fair bit - not perfect, but tolerable for those who don't like messy spaces.


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26 Mar 2018, 3:17 am

I don't seem to know how to keep on top of stuff.



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26 Mar 2018, 9:13 am

My home is rather cluttered, but if I do get any pleasure from it aesthetically, it's completely overshadowed by negative feelings about not being able to keep it neater. I don't like mess, even messy ideas make me feel uncomfortable. As a child I didn't like vague drawings where the details weren't all there, I liked cartoons where the characters and objects were enclosed with black lines. I didn't like asymmetry much either. I like efficiency and clutter usually gets in the way of that.



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26 Mar 2018, 5:44 pm

I personally do like looking at images of cluttered rooms online. I enjoy the complexity of it all, it reminds me alot of those 'Ispy' children's books. It's very interesting how much you can infer about someone based on their living space!

My own space, however.... I am not too big of a fan of messes in my room! I often neglect picking up though, due to my depression, or getting sidetracked by other things such as video games! I am a bit of a hoarder of certain things as well, but that is due to my ocd (the inability to throw them away due to fear of needing them someday) I would like to have a clean room but I'm much too busy [with absolutely nothing haha... ;w;]


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26 Mar 2018, 8:28 pm

I like to keep things as tidy as I'm able. My place isn't catalog perfect, but it's much more tidy than it used to be.


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