Sometimes, I wish people would just leave me alone

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neilson_wheels
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28 Jun 2018, 6:11 am

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I understand that you have a personal attachment to that particular bench, she may also feel the same way about the bench too.

If it happens again, maybe try moving yourself to either the fort or the other bench. I think this would have been a better solution that allowing this experience to spoil your day.

1) I have no personal attachment to that particular bench. Why would I, it's a bench?
2) Who said it spoilt my day? I was sad that I couldn't sit in peace on my own. That sadness lasted a few minutes!

I'm regretting posting this and only did so as I thought others may be understanding of my need for solitude. It's not particularly about this woman or this location, it's about the need for peace and quiet away from others.

I give up.


1) I was responding to these parts in particular:

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I was headed to a small wooden bench set near the edge of the cliff where I like to sit and watch the sea,


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I knew I would get there first and be able to claim the bench as mine and all would be well.


2) I did then include a line from your second post which I realise, on re-reading, was a separate situation altogether:

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I know I could have just moved away from them but at that point I was so upset I just had to go home.


I do relate to how you feel about solitude, sorry for not making that more clear and apologies for my mistake.



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28 Jun 2018, 6:48 am

neilson_wheels wrote:
I do relate to how you feel about solitude, sorry for not making that more clear and apologies for my mistake.

No problem. I was a little hasty with my response and apologise as well :) I'm heading out to the cliffs again this afternoon, after work. This time I think I'll just sit on the grass somewhere :)


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28 Jun 2018, 9:39 am

You definitely have the right to enjoy Mother Nature as you see fit. Mother Nature herself believes in this.



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28 Jun 2018, 9:57 am

I think you might want to change your view of how things should go for you to have a good day.

You absolutely can't expect people to cede their right to share a bench or table, reading your mind and realizing you'd rather be alone.

Be more assertive and stick up for what you want - while backing down if necessary. When the other hiker said she'd leave, you could have said "Are you sure? Well, okay, thank you - I do value my solitude."

And if you do have to back down, be okay with that, too. You can hope you're the only one on the trail, but you can't expect that. It should be a "nice to have" in your mind, not a "must have."


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28 Jun 2018, 11:40 am

BeaArthur wrote:
I think you might want to change your view of how things should go for you to have a good day.

You absolutely can't expect people to cede their right to share a bench or table, reading your mind and realizing you'd rather be alone.

Be more assertive and stick up for what you want - while backing down if necessary. When the other hiker said she'd leave, you could have said "Are you sure? Well, okay, thank you - I do value my solitude."

And if you do have to back down, be okay with that, too. You can hope you're the only one on the trail, but you can't expect that. It should be a "nice to have" in your mind, not a "must have."

Trust me, I can as assertive as anyone. That's not what this is about. Why should I have to do anything here? She was the intruder not me. This whole post was about how some people cannot seem to understand that others like to be alone not how I handled the situation. If I was in a slightly grumpier mood, I'd have told her to leave but it was very hot and I just didn't care enough.

It's not about what I did wrong and how I could handle it better the next time!

I hate this f*****g thread and I'll think I'll go back to my quest for solitude.


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28 Jun 2018, 12:09 pm

Sorry Bea. It's really hot here and I just can't handle any temperature above 15C. It makes me grumpy :(


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28 Jun 2018, 12:13 pm

Just be glad you’re not in London lol.

Do you happen to know any of the Cornish language?



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28 Jun 2018, 12:20 pm

liveandrew wrote:
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I think you might want to change your view of how things should go for you to have a good day.

You absolutely can't expect people to cede their right to share a bench or table, reading your mind and realizing you'd rather be alone.

Be more assertive and stick up for what you want - while backing down if necessary. When the other hiker said she'd leave, you could have said "Are you sure? Well, okay, thank you - I do value my solitude."

And if you do have to back down, be okay with that, too. You can hope you're the only one on the trail, but you can't expect that. It should be a "nice to have" in your mind, not a "must have."

Trust me, I can as assertive as anyone. That's not what this is about. Why should I have to do anything here? She was the intruder not me. This whole post was about how some people cannot seem to understand that others like to be alone not how I handled the situation. If I was in a slightly grumpier mood, I'd have told her to leave but it was very hot and I just didn't care enough.

It's not about what I did wrong and how I could handle it better the next time!

I hate this f*****g thread and I'll think I'll go back to my quest for solitude.


BeaArthur always takes the other person's side and makes you out to be in the wrong. Even if it was the other way around - like say if you were posting here about sitting with a stranger on the bench and the stranger got up and walked off and you took it personally - BeaArthur will still take that person's side and not yours. Don't know why BeaArthur has to be like that for.


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28 Jun 2018, 1:41 pm

Joe90 is partially right... I do sometimes think it's valuable to look at alternative viewpoints.

In the case of the rustic bench, I disagree that the lady was intruding or should have known she would be.

Gotta run, my lunch just came.


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29 Jun 2018, 10:47 am

liveandrew wrote:
BeaArthur wrote:
I think you might want to change your view of how things should go for you to have a good day.

You absolutely can't expect people to cede their right to share a bench or table, reading your mind and realizing you'd rather be alone.

Be more assertive and stick up for what you want - while backing down if necessary. When the other hiker said she'd leave, you could have said "Are you sure? Well, okay, thank you - I do value my solitude."

And if you do have to back down, be okay with that, too. You can hope you're the only one on the trail, but you can't expect that. It should be a "nice to have" in your mind, not a "must have."

Trust me, I can as assertive as anyone. That's not what this is about. Why should I have to do anything here? She was the intruder not me. This whole post was about how some people cannot seem to understand that others like to be alone not how I handled the situation. If I was in a slightly grumpier mood, I'd have told her to leave but it was very hot and I just didn't care enough.

It's not about what I did wrong and how I could handle it better the next time!

I hate this f*****g thread and I'll think I'll go back to my quest for solitude.


Because you were rude to her when she was being polite to you by asking, even when she did not have to ask, and she did not deserve that kind of hostility even if it was passive aggressive. People are not mind readers and you seem to expect her to just have known you wanted to be alone and not even ask. But she wasn't a mind reader, she didn't want to intrude on you, so she asked and then you told her she could sit and then huffed off because it wasn't really ok with you. That was treating someone who was polite to you and who was trying to be considerate of you poorly.

I empathize for your desire for solitude but I do not condone your treatment of this woman who was trying to be polite to you and considerate of you. I probably wouldn't even have asked you because it's a public bench and I have the right to sit there whether you like it or not but this lady was going the extra mile to accomodate you and you treated her poorly in return.



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29 Jun 2018, 11:26 am

BeaArthur wrote:
Joe90 is partially right... I do sometimes think it's valuable to look at alternative viewpoints.

In the case of the rustic bench, I disagree that the lady was intruding or should have known she would be.

Gotta run, my lunch just came.


Sorry, it's just that I'm still not over my thread about the woman with the baby sitting next to me on the bus.


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