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02 Oct 2018, 9:43 pm

A critical mindset is a biased point of view. Can I say that or do I need to reference that statement in MLA format as well?



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02 Oct 2018, 9:49 pm

Saying you need training beyond basic methodology to be a scientist absolutely ignores the worlds' first scientists.


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03 Oct 2018, 9:00 am

Autonomous_Bay wrote:
A critical mindset is a biased point of view...
Wrong ... again! :roll:

A critical mindset is one that allows for new ideas, but that only accepts them as valid when they are either demonstrated to be valid or validated under reputable citation -- no claim is taken at face value without such a demonstration or citation. This is cultivated under the broader heading of "Critical Thinking", which is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully Conceptualizing, Applying, Analyzing, Synthesizing, and/or Evaluating information gathered from, or generated by, Observation, Experience, Reflection, Reasoning, or Communication, as a guide to belief and action. In its exemplary form, it is based on universal intellectual values that transcend subject matter divisions: Accuracy, Breadth & Depth of Study, Clarity, Consistency, Fairness, Good Reasons, Precision, Relevance, and Sound Evidence.

Critical Thinking entails the examination of those structures or elements of thought implicit in all reasoning: Purpose, Problem, or Question-at-Issue; Assumptions; Concepts; Empirical Grounding; Reasoning leading to Conclusions; Implications and Consequences; Objections from Alternative Viewpoints; and Frame of Reference. Critical thinking — in being responsive to variable subject matter, issues, and purposes -- is incorporated in a family of interwoven modes of thinking, among them: Scientific Thinking, Mathematical Thinking, Historical Thinking, Anthropological Thinking, Economic Thinking, Moral Thinking, and Philosophical Thinking.

And it is these values and features are what make Critical Thinking so unpopular with authoritarian regimes, religious institutions, flam-flam artists, the ignorant and uneducated, and people who otherwise are simply more concerned with being believed than with being truthful.

Now, are you ready with that evidence, or do you just want me to just believe whatever you tell me?


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03 Oct 2018, 9:05 am

cberg wrote:
Saying you need training beyond basic methodology to be a scientist absolutely ignores the worlds' first scientists.
"... so Ogg say to self, 'Plant look tasty. Is plant tasty?' Then Ogg eat plant. Then Ogg puke. Now Ogg say 'Plant not good. Do not eat.' Have question?"

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03 Oct 2018, 11:51 am

Having any kind of mindset before considering a new idea is going to prevent you from having an unbiased point of view. A mindset is group minded consciousness and if you have the ability to even have a mindset then you probably aren't autistic. One must be autonomous in thought to be able to reason without prejudice.

Since you implied many times that I'm to be invalidated because I'm stupid, then listen to what Einstein said: "creativity is more important than knowledge." And, "Genius begins with wonder." Critical mindsets are good for critiquing, but not for creating. I hope to learn more about the other forms of autism but you are stuck in the past and assume that Angelman is not a form of it. A simple google search can prove that it is included in ASD but you bring out old assed devotions from your quacker troll booth. Think right and get real.



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03 Oct 2018, 12:06 pm

Autism has been acknowledged as the most heritable of psychiatric (neurodevelopmental) disorders. However it can also result from de novo mutations (mutation occurs in the DNA within the ovum or sperm to the affected individual) in which case it has a genetic origin, but was not passed intergenerationally. Autism can also result from copy number variation of particular gene sequences – these are cases where a functional DNA sequence gets repeated multiple times (which is not a mutation per se). There are quite a few genes that are implicated in autism – these genes seem to trigger a different neurological developmental path in the affected individual. Additionally some genes are related to specific autistic conditions such as Fragile X Syndrome (FRM1 gene), Rett (MeCP2 gene), tuberous sclerosis (TSC1/TSC2 gene), Angelman (UBE3A gene), etc. Certain medication use by the mother can also result in autism; one of the more familiar ones is valproic acid: “Clinical studies over the past 40 years have shown that exposure to VPA in utero is associated with birth defects, cognitive deficits, and increased risk of autism.” (Abstract is here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 6213000056)

The OP has a good point about environmental exposure as it seems that in some cases there is a genetic tendency for autism but the disorder itself manifests when a genetic carrier is exposed to certain environmental triggers after birth. In many cases this happens during the rapid proliferation of axonal tissue around two years of age (many autistics at this time develop shorter than normal axons while schizophrenics have longer than normal ones, and these affect neural connectivity). There is a great book that I recommend to anyone with ASD that is hugely informative about the neuropathogy of autism: “The Neuroscience of Autism Spectrum Disorders” by Buxbaum and Hof. You would be interested in chapter II “Etiology of ASDs” and chapter IV “Model Systems and Pathways in ASDs”. I ate up every word in this book to help understand my condition as well as some books on the neurobiology of ASDs. The genetic part is of particular interest to me as my first job was in genetic research. Being a nerd :nerdy: I've posted info on this on WrongPlanet before, but it seems to put people to sleep, lol.



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03 Oct 2018, 12:32 pm

Autonomous_Bay wrote:
Think right and get real.
I am and I have.

What you seem to define as "Thinking Right" is "Don't think for yourself", while you also seem to define as "Getting Real" is "Believe whatever Autonomous_Bay tells you".


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03 Oct 2018, 12:51 pm

Autonomous_Bay wrote:
... Since you implied many times that I'm to be invalidated because I'm stupid...
Wrong, again ... again. I never implied any such thing, I have only asked for evidence to back up your unsupportable claims.
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... then listen to what Einstein said: "creativity is more important than knowledge." And, "Genius begins with wonder."
While it is true that he said those things, he also said, "Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters", and "The important thing is not to stop questioning". So, I am careful with the truth and I never stop questioning the claims of others.
Autonomous_Bay wrote:
Critical mindsets are good for critiquing, but not for creating.
You are confusing Critical Thinking with criticism. They are not the same thing.
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I hope to learn more about the other forms of autism...
Then go to school and learn about it; don't just sit idly by making pronouncements that have no basis in reality (such as your next one).
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... but you are stuck in the past and assume that Angelman is not a form of it. A simple google search can prove that it is included in ASD ...
Well, according to the scientists at the U.S. National Laboratory of Medicine (Link), the only thing that Angelman's Syndrome has in common with Asperger's Syndrome is its initials ("AS") and some overlapping symptoms -- that is probably what confuses you. In fact, in every reputable source I've discovered, there is no mention of any link between Angelman's Syndrome and Autism Spectrum Disorders.[


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03 Oct 2018, 4:21 pm

Fnord, can you please leave me alone now.

Eyedash, thank you and I will look for that book. PM me your blog please?



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03 Oct 2018, 6:22 pm

Autonomous_Bay wrote:
Fnord, can you please leave me alone now.
Okay ...


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