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08 Dec 2018, 11:03 pm

From my childhood, ABA and talk therapy. Now, I am no longer receiving ABA, thank goodness, but I am still receiving talk therapy.


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08 Dec 2018, 11:50 pm

Officially... Nothing.
Tested for OT at age 10. OT practitioner says I'm doing too well and I don't need it.
May or may not had other recommendations, but either or both cannot be afforded or unavailable.



If it's an improvised kinds of 'therapy', well...
Stimming and special interest? :lol: Do they count?
Online counseling? Though more like I'm the councilor instead.
And 2 years of 'rest' of sorts -- that may or may not be an unintended types of self-induced sensory deprivation.


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09 Dec 2018, 2:33 am

I've gotten regular occupational therapy and I once had cognitive behavioral therapy (which was successful). And I've had lots of speech therapy. And physical therapy.



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09 Dec 2018, 2:38 am

b4 I was dx'ed with AS per se, but Rogerian therapist surely knew I was on the autism spectrum as it was known about by professionals back in the days before widespread awareness [the 70s]. he saved my life and gave it direction. I will be grateful always, wherever he is at [in heaven, as he was old then].



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09 Dec 2018, 2:54 am

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From my childhood, ABA and talk therapy. Now, I am no longer receiving ABA, thank goodness, but I am still receiving talk therapy.

Warrier, can I ask why you aren't a fan of ABA and what ages you received it?



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09 Dec 2018, 10:55 am

auntblabby wrote:
b4 I was dx'ed with AS per se, but Rogerian therapist surely knew I was on the autism spectrum as it was known about by professionals back in the days before widespread awareness [the 70s]. he saved my life and gave it direction. I will be grateful always, wherever he is at [in heaven, as he was old then].

You found a Rogerian therapist helpful? Do tell.

Based on the readings here, a Rogerian therapist is every aspie's worst nightmare and personal hell. It's when they ask you "How did that make you feel?" ad nauseam. And you'll be lucky if they believe you when you answer them. Or worse, they just stare at you silently the whole time, while you scramble to come with something to tell them. (One's special interest works well enough, though.)



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09 Dec 2018, 10:59 am

Aspie1 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
b4 I was dx'ed with AS per se, but Rogerian therapist surely knew I was on the autism spectrum as it was known about by professionals back in the days before widespread awareness [the 70s]. he saved my life and gave it direction. I will be grateful always, wherever he is at [in heaven, as he was old then].

You found a Rogerian therapist helpful? Do tell.

Based on the readings here, a Rogerian therapist is every aspie's worst nightmare and personal hell. It's when they ask you "How did that make you feel?" ad nauseam. And you'll be lucky if they believe you when you answer them. Or worse, they just stare at you silently the whole time, while you scramble to come with something to tell them. (One's special interest works well enough, though.)


You have had bad experiences with professionals, but not everyone has.


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09 Dec 2018, 11:00 am

ScottieKarate wrote:
warrier120 wrote:
From my childhood, ABA and talk therapy. Now, I am no longer receiving ABA, thank goodness, but I am still receiving talk therapy.

Warrier, can I ask why you aren't a fan of ABA and what ages you received it?


Do you have to ask?
ABA is well known for often being abusive, ignoring the reasons behind behaviors, and treating the kids like dogs.


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09 Dec 2018, 12:35 pm

It seems like there are a lot of therapies that are mostly three letter abbreviations. So let me see if I have these all correct.

AAT - Animal-Assisted Therapy

ABA - Applied Behavior Analysis

CBT - Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy

DBT - Dialectical Behavior Therapy

ECT - Electroconvulsive Therapy

EMDR - Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing Therapy

(n/a) - Integrative Counselling and Psychotherapy

OT - Occupational Therapy

(n/a) - Person Centered Therapy (also referred to as Person-Centered Psychotherapy, Person-Centered Counseling, Client-Centered Therapy and Rogerian Psychotherapy

PT - Physical Therapy

SE - Somatic Experiencing

(n/a) - Speech Therapy (also referred to as Speech Language Pathology)

(n/a) - Systematic Desensitization Therapy (also known as Graduated Exposure Therapy)

Any others?


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09 Dec 2018, 3:03 pm

Aspie1 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
b4 I was dx'ed with AS per se, but Rogerian therapist surely knew I was on the autism spectrum as it was known about by professionals back in the days before widespread awareness [the 70s]. he saved my life and gave it direction. I will be grateful always, wherever he is at [in heaven, as he was old then].

You found a Rogerian therapist helpful? Do tell. Based on the readings here, a Rogerian therapist is every aspie's worst nightmare and personal hell. It's when they ask you "How did that make you feel?" ad nauseam. And you'll be lucky if they believe you when you answer them. Or worse, they just stare at you silently the whole time, while you scramble to come with something to tell them. (One's special interest works well enough, though.)

mine was a gem. he was about the only person in the stoned age [the 70s and early 80s] who would listen to me or at least pretend to listen to me. that was basically what I needed. since then I made a vow with god and the moon and stars to do likewise to people I find in need of a friendly ear. :heart:



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09 Dec 2018, 5:08 pm

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I helped my ex gf overcome her agoraphobia, when I met her she had not left her house in years. Within a month I helped get out and slowly overcome her anxiety using CBT systematic desensitization exposure therapy I had learned to treat my own anxiety(though I didn't have agoraphobia rather social anxiety).

I worked with her to create a hierarchy of anxiety provoking situations having her rate them from least anxiety provoking to the most anxiety provoking. We started at the easiest situation and gradually worked our way up the list over the weeks. I would ask her to start with something as simple as walking by a window in her house(which should would even avoid). I asked her to rate her anxiety out of 10, and would ask her again at 15 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes.

I would tell her that it is physiologically impossible to maintain the same amount of anxiety level indefinitely, that her anxiety would drop over time, even if only by a few points, but as it dropped I made sure she was aware of it and was mindful of the decrease in her anxiety levels over time. We would repeat the scenario again and again until that scenario no longer paralyzed her. Her anxiety levels never went to zero but that isn't the point.

Eventually we moved to going outside when there was no one around, to going outside in the car to where there were a few people to walking around the neighbourhood etc etc repeating the steps above. Anxiety is either improving because you are actively working on your anxiety by exposing yourself to anxiety provoking situations or it is getting worse because you are actively engaging in avoidance behaviour. Each time you expose yourself to an anxiety provoking situation it gets a little bit easier the next time. Conversely each time you give into your anxiety and avoid that which makes you anxious, the next time you encounter the same situation, your anxiety will be a little worse.

You can add in breathing exercises listed above and some other techniques to challenge any distorted thinking that may be contributing to your anxiety. Google "list of cognitive distortions". There is a list of usually 10 but sometimes more depending on the list you find. For example someone with panic disorder may engage in the distortion known as "catastrophizing", by predicting a negative outcome for an event that they don't yet know how it will turn out, this negative prediction can actually make it more likely that what you fear will happen. "If I go to the store I know I am going to have a panic attack". You don't know that. For any situation that you do not know what the outcome will be, there is always a positive, neutral and negative possible outcome. With mental illnesses, you tend to focus on only the negative possible outcome.

Once you learn the cognitive distortions, practice noticing when they show up in your thought processes and challenge them. This will help to make the systematic desensitization exposure therapy process easier by giving yourself the tools you need to work through it.


I moved this from a different thread because I thought it fits here.


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09 Dec 2018, 6:19 pm

Speech therapy, but that was before diagnosis



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09 Dec 2018, 6:22 pm

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
Speech therapy, but that was before diagnosis


How was the speech therapy conducted and did it help you?


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09 Dec 2018, 6:26 pm

jimmy m wrote:
shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
Speech therapy, but that was before diagnosis


How was the speech therapy conducted and did it help you?


Age 4, school

Once a week

Do not know if it "helped"

Doubt it had a nonneglible impact

All I remember:. Rhinoceros, hippopotamus



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09 Dec 2018, 6:36 pm

I do not currently have any speech impediments. But I am an old Aspie and had an entire lifetime to self-correct any speech impediments such as prosody speech patterns. So this general Aspie trait is not displayed. Maybe the reason why this trait is not evident is because the problem was corrected early at school. In the third grade the teacher saw a problem with the way I spoke. I thought it was due to my two large buckteeth. But anyways, I was sent to Special Class. Three days a week, special students along with myself were collected from their respective classroom and led to a secret hidden room off of the main school cafeteria. This happened while I was in the 3rd & 4th grade. The hidden room had a beautiful conference room table and very nice soft leather chairs. It was such a nice hidden room that I really didn’t mind being there. Our strange assignment during the hour we were in special class was to recite tongue twisters very fast and yet very distinctly. I thought it was a strange thing to do, but who am I to dispute a teacher. I remember the two types of tongue twisters that we recited. These were:

Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.
If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers,
then how many pickled peppers did Peter Piper pick?

Sally sells seashells by the seashore.
The shells Sally sells are surely from the sea.


I remember that it took great concentration to recite tongue twisters accurately. And you really had to work at it in order to say them fast.


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09 Dec 2018, 9:56 pm

jimmy m wrote:
Our strange assignment during the hour we were in special class was to recite tongue twisters very fast and yet very distinctly. I thought it was a strange thing to do, but who am I to dispute a teacher. I remember the two types of tongue twisters that we recited. These were:

Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.
If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers,
then how many pickled peppers did Peter Piper pick?

Sally sells seashells by the seashore.
The shells Sally sells are surely from the sea.


I remember that it took great concentration to recite tongue twisters accurately. And you really had to work at it in order to say them fast.


can you say "the sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick" 10 times fast? ;)