Need help with anxiety
Well, the fortunate thing is that although most of the people I'm around are young, they're extremely intelligent and hardworking, and I don't have to do everything on my own…..but they get things wrong because they are not very experienced. One thing I struggle with, though, is that they are used to doing things certain ways - they're extremely good at working on projects, to cooperate using computers and things, but they find it hard to imagine that I don't know their preferred way of doing things, because they think it's the only way. So there is a gap in communication. There is another lady my age, and she is completely at sea technologically.
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I sometimes leave conversations and return after a long time. I am sorry about it, but I need a lot of time to think about it when I am not sure how I feel.
Guys, thank you for your support, but don't feed the trolls. I'm not upset, it's all so beside the point. I am really thankful for your advice.
In the words of autistic actor Paddy Considine:
"If I listened to every Motherf***er that told me I couldn't do something with my life, I'd be hanging from a tree."
https://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/a853 ... ourneyman/
I love Paddy Considine.
So let's do fun and useful stuff, and when we run into trouble we help each other. That simple.
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I sometimes leave conversations and return after a long time. I am sorry about it, but I need a lot of time to think about it when I am not sure how I feel.
Thank you. I tried, but it made the anxiety snowball. I was doing vipassana meditation, it may have been the wrong type. Do you meditate? Any suggestions for other types of meditation? I've heard others mention mantra meditation as suitable for autistic people. Any thoughts?
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I sometimes leave conversations and return after a long time. I am sorry about it, but I need a lot of time to think about it when I am not sure how I feel.
There was a TV show once where somebody with stage fright was told to pretend everybody in the audience is in their underwear.
That seemed to cure the stage fright.
I have similar anxiety. What I do is say to myself, “screw it. I have the knowledge. If the others don’t appreciate what I say, it’s tough luck on them.”
That seemed to cure the stage fright.
I have similar anxiety. What I do is say to myself, “screw it. I have the knowledge. If the others don’t appreciate what I say, it’s tough luck on them.”
Well, that kinda works for stage fright. I generally do pretty well if I have to do a presentation, because then they can't talk back at me. I think in this case it's anxiety combined with mental overload caused by interacting with too many people at once. I need to get better at switching from one person to the next.
You're a rock, Kraftie.
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I sometimes leave conversations and return after a long time. I am sorry about it, but I need a lot of time to think about it when I am not sure how I feel.
I hear you sister! It's fun, isn't it? Never mind the anxiety - part of the reason it got really bad had to do with life events that have nothing to do with uni, and that could not have been avoided. Studying itself has hugely improved my life. I'm making new friends and learning new things, and I actually did an attention test before starting studying and then again after the first semester, and both attention, precision and inhibition had improved, which is way cool.
I think this is the new world, really. Lifelong learning is something everyone will have to get used to, and perhaps it will give more opportunity to those of us who fell out of the system to fall back in again.
I saw your other post on studying, I'm so happy to see others doing this as well.
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I sometimes leave conversations and return after a long time. I am sorry about it, but I need a lot of time to think about it when I am not sure how I feel.
You're a very articulate person in writing. I would say practice in front of a mirror. Maybe tape yourself talking. See how your words project. Breathe in between saying major phrases (but don't make it look like you're breathing).
Make sure you know the material you are talking about. I have often fumbled when I didn't totally know the material--only had a vague idea about it.
And....the old joke about "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?"--the answer: Practice, Practice, Practice.
Make sure you know the material you are talking about. I have often fumbled when I didn't totally know the material--only had a vague idea about it.
And....the old joke about "How do I get to Carnegie Hall?"--the answer: Practice, Practice, Practice.
Thank you….I guess you are right. Am looking forward to a semester without these classes though. This got rough.
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I sometimes leave conversations and return after a long time. I am sorry about it, but I need a lot of time to think about it when I am not sure how I feel.
Thank you. I tried, but it made the anxiety snowball. I was doing vipassana meditation, it may have been the wrong type. Do you meditate? Any suggestions for other types of meditation? I've heard others mention mantra meditation as suitable for autistic people. Any thoughts?
Look into lovingkindness or metta. You repeat a few simple phrases over and over again. It gives you something to concentrate on and might calm you down. I used to use it when grocery shopping in busy stores and it would bring me out of a shutdown.
Exercising seems to calm my system down and make me more social for a couple of hours afterwards as well. One of the reasons I would always ride my bike to work.
I finished my degree at 36 and have no regrets.
Thank you. I tried, but it made the anxiety snowball. I was doing vipassana meditation, it may have been the wrong type. Do you meditate? Any suggestions for other types of meditation? I've heard others mention mantra meditation as suitable for autistic people. Any thoughts?
Look into lovingkindness or metta. You repeat a few simple phrases over and over again. It gives you something to concentrate on and might calm you down. I used to use it when grocery shopping in busy stores and it would bring me out of a shutdown.
Exercising seems to calm my system down and make me more social for a couple of hours afterwards as well. One of the reasons I would always ride my bike to work.
I finished my degree at 36 and have no regrets.
That is very cool! I've never thought to use meditation to get out of a shutdown, but I'll try it next time. Most of my shutdowns occur in spring and summer because of light levels, but I'll definitely try it then. Sounds easier to do under pressure than some of the mindfulness stuff.
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I sometimes leave conversations and return after a long time. I am sorry about it, but I need a lot of time to think about it when I am not sure how I feel.
When you are under great stress, your anxiety builds up which can lead to a panic attack. In a panic attack, your breathing becomes very shallow. Your body no longer releases the carbon dioxide stored very deep in your lungs. That signals your brain and your body automatically begins a shutdown response. Your heart rate increases.
So one way to get back your control is to breath deeply. You need to take deep breathes and exhale. Fill up your lungs with oxygen. That can give you back just enough control to decrease your anxiety level, preventing a meltdown.
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There is another tool that you might try using. It is fairly off the wall. You might try wearing a pair of silver mirror finish glasses. This is the kind that motorcycle cops sometimes wear. I use to wear a pair when I was in college 50 years ago. It doesn't need to be full sunglasses. It is like looking through a one way mirror.
It seems like NTs are always misinterpreting Aspies intentions. They look us in the eyes and imagine our thoughts, so maybe by wearing mirror sunglasses we deprive them of this tool of assessing our intentions and our vulnerabilities. So maybe this has a therapeutic value for Aspies.
Psychologist Paul Ekman, an authority on facial expressions, says that of the 23 facial expressions relating to human emotion, about one-third involve the eyes. Shades may slightly obscure your view of the world, but they also hide the world's view of how you are feeling.
Not being able to see a person's eyes greatly reduces our ability to infer his or her emotions. For example, telling a fake smile from a real one can be difficult, but if the smiler is wearing shades then detecting the sham smile is almost impossible. In a real smile, a muscle called the orbicularis oculi is activated, creating a hard-to-fake crinkling around the eyes. The eyes truly are the windows to the soul.
The sunglasses might force them to listen to your words and not just look at things on your face to get your meaning.
Also you might want to accessorize. There are many unique looks that blend in quite well with reflective mirrored shades. Such as WWII Bomber Jacket look, Surfer look, Flight Jacket look, Motorcycle Jacket look, Archeologist look, Mountain Climber look, Arctic Explorer look, and Western look to name a few. So that you would not look to conspicuous.
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Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."
So one way to get back your control is to breath deeply. You need to take deep breathes and exhale. Fill up your lungs with oxygen. That can give you back just enough control to decrease your anxiety level, preventing a meltdown.
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There is another tool that you might try using. It is fairly off the wall. You might try wearing a pair of silver mirror finish glasses. This is the kind that motorcycle cops sometimes wear. I use to wear a pair when I was in college 50 years ago. It doesn't need to be full sunglasses. It is like looking through a one way mirror.
It seems like NTs are always misinterpreting Aspies intentions. They look us in the eyes and imagine our thoughts, so maybe by wearing mirror sunglasses we deprive them of this tool of assessing our intentions and our vulnerabilities. So maybe this has a therapeutic value for Aspies.
Psychologist Paul Ekman, an authority on facial expressions, says that of the 23 facial expressions relating to human emotion, about one-third involve the eyes. Shades may slightly obscure your view of the world, but they also hide the world's view of how you are feeling.
Not being able to see a person's eyes greatly reduces our ability to infer his or her emotions. For example, telling a fake smile from a real one can be difficult, but if the smiler is wearing shades then detecting the sham smile is almost impossible. In a real smile, a muscle called the orbicularis oculi is activated, creating a hard-to-fake crinkling around the eyes. The eyes truly are the windows to the soul.
The sunglasses might force them to listen to your words and not just look at things on your face to get your meaning.
Also you might want to accessorize. There are many unique looks that blend in quite well with reflective mirrored shades. Such as WWII Bomber Jacket look, Surfer look, Flight Jacket look, Motorcycle Jacket look, Archeologist look, Mountain Climber look, Arctic Explorer look, and Western look to name a few. So that you would not look to conspicuous.
Thank you. I don't think I can rock the mirror sunglasses but you do have a point about breathing. I hadn't thought about that because I don't really hyperventilate, but on the other hand I don't breathe properly either. It's like I completely lose touch with my emotions and I just do things with no idea why I am doing it, like I am not in charge of body. I don't know what that is.
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I sometimes leave conversations and return after a long time. I am sorry about it, but I need a lot of time to think about it when I am not sure how I feel.
Individuals under stress will sometimes experience a disassociation of body and mind. They become spacey, off in their own world. One of the techniques discussed in somatic experiencing is called grounding. It is a way of anchoring the body to the mind so that one can sense areas of the body that retain stress, which will then open the door for sensing and neutralizing the source of the stress and trauma. This first step is called grounding.
According to Peter Levine, shut–down and dissociated people are not “in their bodies.” Being, as we have seen, nearly unable to make real here-and-now contact no matter how hard they try. It is only when they can first engage their arousal systems (enough to begin to pull them up, out of immobility and dissociation), and then discharge that activation, that it becomes physiologically possible to make contact and receive support. The brain area associated with awareness of bodily states and emotions is called the right anterior insula and is located in the frontal part of the limbic (emotional) brain, squeezed in directly under the prefrontal cortex – the locus of our most refined consciousness. Brain research using fMRI shows that the insula is strongly inhibited during shutdown and dissociation, and it confirmed that these traumatized individuals are unable to feel their bodies, to differentiate their emotions, or even to know who they (or another person really are).
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Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."
According to Peter Levine, shut–down and dissociated people are not “in their bodies.” Being, as we have seen, nearly unable to make real here-and-now contact no matter how hard they try. It is only when they can first engage their arousal systems (enough to begin to pull them up, out of immobility and dissociation), and then discharge that activation, that it becomes physiologically possible to make contact and receive support. The brain area associated with awareness of bodily states and emotions is called the right anterior insula and is located in the frontal part of the limbic (emotional) brain, squeezed in directly under the prefrontal cortex – the locus of our most refined consciousness. Brain research using fMRI shows that the insula is strongly inhibited during shutdown and dissociation, and it confirmed that these traumatized individuals are unable to feel their bodies, to differentiate their emotions, or even to know who they (or another person really are).
I'm not at all certain what happens. I do have shutdowns, but they are different. I'm not certain whether shutdowns are the same as dissociation or not. This feels more like fighting my way through a shutdown, but the trouble is my emotions shut down, except fear. I keep talking and doing things, but I don't quite know why I do the things I do - it's as if I'm not in control of my body. Does anyone know what that is?
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I sometimes leave conversations and return after a long time. I am sorry about it, but I need a lot of time to think about it when I am not sure how I feel.
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