05 Sep 2019, 12:56 pm
Jamesy wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It doesn’t mean I think they’re tolerant...but they are much more so than a place like Nigeria.
I'm not saying the UK is worse than other places, but here the stigma against autistics isn't very good. People either see us as ret*d or serial killers. I think I'll rather be mistaken for ret*d than a serial killer.
why would they see us as serial killers?
the UK better saught itself out
The serial killer in Colchester, Essex, claimed he had autism when he was in court. And that's not the only serial killer or school shooter that has claimed to be autistic. So that just worsens the stigma if it leaks out into public media. People do tend to have a habit of tarring everyone in a minority group with the same brush if they have experienced a bad situation with one from a minority group.
05 Sep 2019, 1:23 pm
My parents associate gays with freak show activists they see on TV.
I associate gays with some of my friends who disclosed to me - completely normal people (well, some not completely normal but the ratio is typical for my friends in general 
).
You know what you have seen. If the only autistic persons you've ever heard of were Rain Man and some school shooter, you have your prejudices. The beginnings are hard but after many enough functional, innocent people disclose, the popular view slowly changes. Just like the generation gap on views on homosexuals.
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05 Sep 2019, 1:28 pm
Joe90 wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It doesn’t mean I think they’re tolerant...but they are much more so than a place like Nigeria.
I'm not saying the UK is worse than other places, but here the stigma against autistics isn't very good. People either see us as ret*d or serial killers. I think I'll rather be mistaken for ret*d than a serial killer.
why would they see us as serial killers?
the UK better saught itself out
The serial killer in Colchester, Essex, claimed he had autism when he was in court. And that's not the only serial killer or school shooter that has claimed to be autistic. So that just worsens the stigma if it leaks out into public media. People do tend to have a habit of tarring everyone in a minority group with the same brush if they have experienced a bad situation with one from a minority group.
Claiming you have it isn't the same as getting diagnosed by a professional. There should be no stigma involved because 99.9% of us are not murderers or criminals. Some people just like to stereotype.
I'm also fed up with the criticism levelled at Greta Thunberg because of her willingness to make her life count for something. We need to be like her and be proud of who we are.
05 Sep 2019, 1:55 pm
05 Sep 2019, 2:07 pm
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Claiming you have it isn't the same as getting diagnosed by a professional. There should be no stigma involved because 99.9% of us are not murderers or criminals. Some people just like to stereotype.
I know it's not the same, but the general population with little knowledge about autism itself will think otherwise. Also websites like heartlessasperger's.com doesn't help matters either. I mean, if that were a website negativity stereotyping all black people like that, it would immediately become controversal and the site creater would probably be named and shamed by the media and obviously be called a racist b***h. But because it's stereotyping and badmouthing all autistic people, nothing gets done about it, it's still accessible, and as much as it offends me I just get told to sweep it under the carpet and move on.
05 Sep 2019, 2:45 pm
Joe90 wrote:
I know it's not the same, but the general population with little knowledge about autism itself will think otherwise. Also websites like heartlessasperger's.com doesn't help matters either. I mean, if that were a website negativity stereotyping all black people like that, it would immediately become controversal and the site creater would probably be named and shamed by the media and obviously be called a racist b***h. But because it's stereotyping and badmouthing all autistic people, nothing gets done about it, it's still accessible, and as much as it offends me I just get told to sweep it under the carpet and move on.
That's a consequence of the fact that we (autistic people) don't currently have a well-organized subculture.
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05 Sep 2019, 2:58 pm
Joe90 wrote:
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Claiming you have it isn't the same as getting diagnosed by a professional. There should be no stigma involved because 99.9% of us are not murderers or criminals. Some people just like to stereotype.
I know it's not the same, but the general population with little knowledge about autism itself will think otherwise. Also websites like heartlessasperger's.com doesn't help matters either. I mean, if that were a website negativity stereotyping all black people like that, it would immediately become controversal and the site creater would probably be named and shamed by the media and obviously be called a racist b***h. But because it's stereotyping and badmouthing all autistic people, nothing gets done about it, it's still accessible, and as much as it offends me I just get told to sweep it under the carpet and move on.
He never claimed to be Autistic, he claimed to have Psychosis. Four psychiatrists disagreed
and diagnosed him with ASD.
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Fairweather claimed to have psychosis, which was not found by a court psychiatrist. However, all four psychiatrists who testified agreed that Fairweather suffered from an autistic spectrum disorder.
Source
05 Sep 2019, 3:01 pm
Soliloquist wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
Quote:
Claiming you have it isn't the same as getting diagnosed by a professional. There should be no stigma involved because 99.9% of us are not murderers or criminals. Some people just like to stereotype.
I know it's not the same, but the general population with little knowledge about autism itself will think otherwise. Also websites like heartlessasperger's.com doesn't help matters either. I mean, if that were a website negativity stereotyping all black people like that, it would immediately become controversal and the site creater would probably be named and shamed by the media and obviously be called a racist b***h. But because it's stereotyping and badmouthing all autistic people, nothing gets done about it, it's still accessible, and as much as it offends me I just get told to sweep it under the carpet and move on.
He never claimed to be Autistic, he claimed to have Psychosis. Four psychiatrists disagreed
and diagnosed him with ASD.
Quote:
Fairweather claimed to have psychosis, which was not found by a court psychiatrist. However, all four psychiatrists who testified agreed that Fairweather suffered from an autistic spectrum disorder.
Source
That's even scarier.
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