Autistic army recruit is home, recruiter removed from duty

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25 Sep 2019, 11:57 pm

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...I had a really long reply to you up, starting with explaining that I had taken a break and put part of an intended post up and you replied to it so I started a new one. I said a lot in it but then my posting circumstances made me lose that draft :cry: . I don't feel like trying again niw :) , I'll just say that I presume you know what " fill chicken dinner " and especially " demobbed " meant :| .

i can't say i know what the first phrase means, but i do comprehend the 2nd phrase.



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26 Sep 2019, 12:36 am

...Jraftie intro'd me for. " chicken " - less than honorable - I saw it elsewhere. " Demobbed ", for discharged (I guess presumably honorably) is more British, I guess (Might be archaic now in Blighty, I dunno).
8 lost ANOTHER, " fun ", entir3ly new post :cry:. My life sucks :cry: .


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26 Sep 2019, 10:15 am

A couple of weeks ago, I was sitting on a bench playing with the phone

An army recruiter asked if I was in high school

Answered

He asked if I had a high school diploma

Answered

He asked if I thought about joining Army


Told him I am autistic


"Cool" he answered

And left


Granted the world contains a lot of things much worse than autism, but autism is not "cool"



By the way I am 36 and have a bachelor degree



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26 Sep 2019, 6:00 pm

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
A couple of weeks ago, I was sitting on a bench playing with the phone

An army recruiter asked if I was in high school

Answered

He asked if I had a high school diploma

Answered

He asked if I thought about joining Army


Told him I am autistic


"Cool" he answered

And left


Granted the world contains a lot of things much worse than autism, but autism is not "cool"



By the way I am 36 and have a bachelor degree






...I believe you are beyond the standard limit age - I recall it at 34 the latest for the Navy, earlier, others. Perhaps it's different now.
Also, to be blunt, I recall you saying that you are a trans man. As I'm sure you know. Trump (and I am against that :( )...


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One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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26 Sep 2019, 10:29 pm

Ass-p


MEPS disqualifier:

Counseling over six months
Social anxiety disorder
Obsessive compulsive disorder
Depression
Anemia
Menopause
Asperger's



Sometimes they give waivers, not guaranteed

And it would have to be a lot of waivers



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27 Sep 2019, 3:31 am

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I believe you are beyond the standard limit age - I recall it at 34 the latest for the Navy, earlier, others. Perhaps it's different now Also, to be blunt, I recall you saying that you are a trans man. As I'm sure you know. Trump (and I am against that :( )...

when i was in [1984] we had a 37 year old recruit. he had been in before, a decade earlier. but we also had a 35 year old who had not been in. when they need bulletstopping walking dead meat, they bend the rules.



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27 Sep 2019, 3:38 am

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ASS-P wrote:
I believe you are beyond the standard limit age - I recall it at 34 the latest for the Navy, earlier, others. Perhaps it's different now Also, to be blunt, I recall you saying that you are a trans man. As I'm sure you know. Trump (and I am against that :( )...

when i was in [1984] we had a 37 year old recruit. he had been in before, a decade earlier. but we also had a 35 year old who had not been in. when they need bulletstopping walking dead meat, they bend the rules.






...Yes. What you said 8) .


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One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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27 Sep 2019, 12:37 pm

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skibum wrote:
I think Autistic people can do extremely well in many jobs in the military. I was a military child and grew up in it.








...Yoy don't state whether you yourself were in the military as an adult as opposed to being an " Army brat " :lol: when a child although from your phrasing I assume that you weren't.
I was a B.R.A.T. But I was in ROTC until I had to quit because of a physical disability.


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27 Sep 2019, 12:43 pm

If someone wants to risk there life for this miserable country, they should be allowed to do so and the us army is way too discriminatory.

At the very least if the ads I get are any indication, it wastes plenty of ad money.


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27 Sep 2019, 5:11 pm

Well it it was just high functioning autism/aspergers, not compounded with anxiety and depression, then I'd be of the opinion he should be able to choose the military if he wants.

But with the anxiety and depression severe enough he was taking medication, I can see why the sent him home.


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27 Sep 2019, 6:12 pm

when the balloon goes up [war] all that BS will be summarily tossed by the wayside, and they will take all comers. my late dad told me stories of how when he was in during WW2, he had fellow GIs that were, in his words, "crazy." one guy ate light bulbs [!]. one guy was so mentally dull, he had to be laboriously taught how to lace up his boots. during the vietnam war, defense secretary Bob Mcnamara infamously inducted borderline mentally ret*d people, called "Mcnamara's army" - these people basically served as cannon fodder- bulletstoppers and numbers-boosting filler in the army, all too often their fellow troops fragged 'em because they were a hazard to the rest of the company. [Forrest Gump was strictly fiction!]
may Mac molder in a dark corner of purgatory for what he did. :x in any case, if anybody here is presently rejected for military duty, the next major war likely will be their ticket in.



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27 Sep 2019, 6:34 pm

auntblabby wrote:
when the balloon goes up [war] all that BS will be summarily tossed by the wayside, and they will take all comers. my late dad told me stories of how when he was in during WW2, he had fellow GIs that were, in his words, "crazy." one guy ate light bulbs [!]. one guy was so mentally dull, he had to be laboriously taught how to lace up his boots. during the vietnam war, defense secretary Bob Mcnamara infamously inducted borderline mentally ret*d people, called "Mcnamara's army" - these people basically served as cannon fodder- bulletstoppers and numbers-boosting filler in the army, all too often their fellow troops fragged 'em because they were a hazard to the rest of the company. [Forrest Gump was strictly fiction!]
may Mac molder in a dark corner of purgatory for what he did. :x in any case, if anybody here is presently rejected for military duty, the next major war likely will be their ticket in.


You got me curious on one thing about "McNamara's Army" why didn't they just put them in a separate unit like the Tuskegee Experiment was with blacks if they were that much of an inconvenience to the others?



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27 Sep 2019, 6:37 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
when the balloon goes up [war] all that BS will be summarily tossed by the wayside, and they will take all comers. my late dad told me stories of how when he was in during WW2, he had fellow GIs that were, in his words, "crazy." one guy ate light bulbs [!]. one guy was so mentally dull, he had to be laboriously taught how to lace up his boots. during the vietnam war, defense secretary Bob Mcnamara infamously inducted borderline mentally ret*d people, called "Mcnamara's army" - these people basically served as cannon fodder- bulletstoppers and numbers-boosting filler in the army, all too often their fellow troops fragged 'em because they were a hazard to the rest of the company. [Forrest Gump was strictly fiction!]
may Mac molder in a dark corner of purgatory for what he did. :x in any case, if anybody here is presently rejected for military duty, the next major war likely will be their ticket in.


You got me curious on one thing about "McNamara's Army" why didn't they just put them in a separate unit like the Tuskegee Experiment was with blacks if they were that much of an inconvenience to the others?

to use a clumsy metaphor, think of it like how a dentist will, instead of implanting a real tooth where one is missing, they will instead install a "bridge" tooth supported by the intact teeth on either side. these unfortunates [Mcnamara's army] served as "bridges" in this respect. they could not have served in a company of their own as they lacked the mentality for such independent action. the tuskegee experiment was a totally different deal, those people were normal or above normal IQ and not addled in any way.



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27 Sep 2019, 6:40 pm

I get your point.



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28 Sep 2019, 2:54 am

Some articles claim that "lying" at MEPS gets two years in fort Leavenworth

All that recruit got was administrative separation?



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09 Dec 2023, 5:09 pm

My son is going through same thing right now as we speak. He is in a mental hospital right now, he has high functioning autism, he actually just told us today that his recruiter told him not to say anything about autism at MEPS. He graduated boot camp and started AIT, but couldn't handle the mental abuse anymore, his commander threatened him with jail and prison if he refused to train because he hurt his knee during basic training but pushed through because he didn't want to say anything at basic training because he was afraid of getting him and others in trouble because that's the way the drill sergeants were there, oh and another soldier threatened his life in bt. He made it to AIT but couldn't take it anymore( mental abuse) and his knee hurting bad. He went to medical on base and they basically said he was fine and lying about it, commander called my wife last week and she went off on the commander, and said you treat people like this with high functioning autism, he said he didn't know he had autism, which makes no sense, because she even wrote a letter for the recruiter and it even states autism in the letter. I'm pretty sure now that the recruiter took that part out or never forwarded the letter to the military.he is in process of getting out now. Needless to say they haven't heard the last of us that's for sure