Getting in trouble as a kid because of autism

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Sahn
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26 Nov 2019, 3:41 pm

On my first day of school the naughty kid must have singled me out as a dope. He said,

"hey Dominic, you the chocolate on the teacher's desk? Go and get it".

I got up and walkwd up to the front of the class, put my hand on the bar if chocolate and the teacher's hand came down on mine. I was surprised!

It was easy to get me to do things, usually as simple as asking. My sister got me to do all sorts of things just by asking. Once she told me to pee in the car, so I did. :lol:



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28 Nov 2019, 10:22 am

The reason aspie kids seem to perpetually get in trouble at home and at school, is because they tend to be good, obedient kids. I talked extensively about this, and ruffled many feathers, in another thread: "Do Parents Respect Bad Kids More?" (link: viewtopic.php?t=371383)

I mentioned how parents and teachers don't really respect good kids. Any praise and approval you get, in the guise of "love" or "caring" (at least for parents), is fleeting and can be revoked at any moment. It's conditional, pending your ability to continue being good. It's even transactional: you're buying their praise and approval with your goodness. It stops the moment you run out of the proverbial money. None of it holds a candle to the strong, profound, almost-spiritual, and most importantly, unconditional respect parents and teachers feel toward bad kids.

Any time an adult gets on your case for "disrespectful" voice tone or "wrong" facial expression, it many not even be true. It's only "wrong" because they don't fully respect you, and they're showing their feelings by picking on something about you. If a truly bad kid talked back to them or looked at them mockingly, he'd get away with it scot-free, maybe a brief talking-to, if that. But when a good, meek, obedient kid (who aspies tend to be) does it, parents react like he just strangled a puppy to death. Even teachers, at least in grades above 2nd, actually respect bad students more. Sure, they may give fleeting "good boy!" praises and pats on the head to a well-behaved child, but in the long run, it's the class troublemaker they respect more.

It's no different than the "nice guys/jerks" dichotomy in dating. Women say they want to be with a nice guy, but keep going for jerks. Same with parents and teachers: they say they want all kids to be good, but feel and show more respect to bad kids. The only way to fight back against this is to become bad. It will take time and patience. Early on, when you behave "badly", you will get A LOT of vitriol thrown your way, to make you "good" again. The problem is that most parents would much rather have a "good" kid, because good kids are easier to control, even though the same parents don't respect good kids as much. Furthermore, when their kids' goodness comes to parents with zero effort, parents stop appreciating the goodness, and instead take it for granted, or even demand even more of it.

The problem is, most aspies don't know how to be "bad"; neither do I. Plus, aspie kids take the entire "good kid" indoctrination to heart, unlike NT kids, who know how to sort trash from treasure, and even leverage the occasional "good" behaviors to their own advantage.