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16 Jan 2020, 7:51 am

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Hi Cloudman - as aquafelix wrote "pushing too much for too long has consequences". I was a workaholic for many years, working 6 days a week, long hours, and wound up with pneumonia and then pleurisy, needing 3 months to recover. You need to ensure a balance of work and life/play, which is difficult, and only later did I realise I could allow myself a 4 day week to breathe... Made a huge difference. I love what they're doing in Denmark https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/03/denmark-best-work-life-balance-oecd/

The doc said I'm ok ,but I've started to get chest pain costochondritis.. I'm glad too there are better ways out there who says we can't move I'm trying to improve my health. It seems higher protein helps make the body less fragile


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That's my life too, I went to school, came home, collapsed exhausted. I never knew how people had energy for after-school activities, clubs, and all that.


it depends, some clubs actually revive and replenish you. it's awful to be there initially, but then it becomes great.


the one after school club i regularly attended was the Improv Club at one of my schools, highly recommend improv clubs....
it was too much fun, i rarely participated -- i could barely speak! ('selective' mutism) but they still included me.
that did so much to remove the stress of the rest of the week.
just to be included in something fun.

the kids were BRILLIANT - awesome - haven't seen such a spontaneous display of talent, good humour, entertainment, and imagination anywhere else! really those kids were great!

anyway, that club only met once a week, so it was easy to attend. i think that's the case for most schools with an improv club - it's not daily.

well worth it, it really energizes a person for the rest of the week, just enough to keep going!
it was like a fuel tank, not draining.

if it was daily, i would be the happiest person at school, even if everything else about school was difficult for me, i'd be happy.

seriously those kids were the BEST. we were in a mainly rural area that was slowly growing--
and the kids were amazingly fun, funny, witty, kind and nice, compared to my experience in other areas.

i think rural kids have better minds, maybe. the fresh air, maybe it makes people less sour.

or maybe since a lot of the rural kids are in 4H clubs they have healthier ways of relating to each other since they already connect over things like horse-riding.

at the other schools, i would join clubs and be so drained - i just went because my mom wouldn't let me quit.

but anyway my point is that improv clubs are very good even for asd-ers!! !

just the energy and fun is healthy. it actually takes away from the stress.
you can just watch or give ideas, don't have to act if you don't want to.

it's as close as i ever got to proper socializing, but better for my brain.


I'm not really into Improv or things like that, I like my silence, time to myself and my thoughts. Spending a few minutes with my dog, just sitting down and looking out the window, giving her a little scratch behind the ears, taking a moment to breathe and think, it does wonders for my stress levels. I'd disagree that improv clubs are good for asd-ers, the statement is too generalized given the wide range of symptoms that can manifest in people with asd.

I would say it doesn't hurt to go to an improv club to see if you like it, and if you don't, no harm done. I'm glad at least that you found something that helped you destress in high school, its a very stressful period for most people. My advice for people with asd would be to actively look for something you like, try something once, don't like it, leave, repeat until you find the thing right for you. I tried a few different clubs in college, didn't really help me, but I do feel I am better for the experience, because now I at least know what I don't like to do.


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17 Jan 2020, 9:53 pm

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Hi Cloudman - as aquafelix wrote "pushing too much for too long has consequences". I was a workaholic for many years, working 6 days a week, long hours, and wound up with pneumonia and then pleurisy, needing 3 months to recover. You need to ensure a balance of work and life/play, which is difficult, and only later did I realise I could allow myself a 4 day week to breathe... Made a huge difference. I love what they're doing in Denmark https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/03/denmark-best-work-life-balance-oecd/

Your right you may have saved me. I had this idea in my head I need to work more more and more, but the reality is l need balance our bodies can only handle so much and I think people with asd really do things throughly. This adds to the load, it's not the asd person's fault they it's how there brain works


Sorry to hear about your costochondritis(can be quite painful, though generally harmless, thankfully). Glad you could see the Doc. Yes, it's almost like we have to give ourselves permission to ease off. I felt as though I was thriving, as things just kept getting better and better, as far as the job went, and it was incredibly rewarding as well. So, if it wasn't for the body demanding a break, I probably would have worked myself to death :P ... the momentum was increasing, that's for sure.



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Hi Cloudman - as aquafelix wrote "pushing too much for too long has consequences". I was a workaholic for many years, working 6 days a week, long hours, and wound up with pneumonia and then pleurisy, needing 3 months to recover. You need to ensure a balance of work and life/play, which is difficult, and only later did I realise I could allow myself a 4 day week to breathe... Made a huge difference. I love what they're doing in Denmark https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/03/denmark-best-work-life-balance-oecd/

Your right you may have saved me. I had this idea in my head I need to work more more and more, but the reality is l need balance our bodies can only handle so much and I think people with asd really do things throughly. This adds to the load, it's not the asd person's fault they it's how there brain works


Sorry to hear about your costochondritis(can be quite painful, though generally harmless, thankfully). Glad you could see the Doc. Yes, it's almost like we have to give ourselves permission to ease off. I felt as though I was thriving, as things just kept getting better and better, as far as the job went, and it was incredibly rewarding as well. So, if it wasn't for the body demanding a break, I probably would have worked myself to death :P ... the momentum was increasing, that's for sure.

Thanks its getting much better. I find with time. Wow.. I understand it seemed like the right thing to do for you, but our body knows the limit it will put the brakes on. So even though you overdid it you still got great progress that is great to hear. This condition tho makes me think is it just that we aren't conditioning our bodies and minds to be able to work more, and not stopping as you mentioned. I want to get into landscaping,but how my body will hold up is a mystery. I'm trying to adjust my diet to eat more protein its difficult I love carbohydrates like bread and rice they are cheap and easy, also with a high protein diet its easy to forget vegetables and fruit.


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19 Jan 2020, 8:56 am

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Thanks its getting much better. I find with time. Wow.. I understand it seemed like the right thing to do for you, but our body knows the limit it will put the brakes on. So even though you overdid it you still got great progress that is great to hear. This condition tho makes me think is it just that we aren't conditioning our bodies and minds to be able to work more, and not stopping as you mentioned. I want to get into landscaping,but how my body will hold up is a mystery. I'm trying to adjust my diet to eat more protein its difficult I love carbohydrates like bread and rice they are cheap and easy, also with a high protein diet its easy to forget vegetables and fruit.

It hard to find and maintain good habits of looking after yourself.



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19 Jan 2020, 5:13 pm

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Thanks its getting much better. I find with time. Wow.. I understand it seemed like the right thing to do for you, but our body knows the limit it will put the brakes on. So even though you overdid it you still got great progress that is great to hear. This condition tho makes me think is it just that we aren't conditioning our bodies and minds to be able to work more, and not stopping as you mentioned. I want to get into landscaping,but how my body will hold up is a mystery. I'm trying to adjust my diet to eat more protein its difficult I love carbohydrates like bread and rice they are cheap and easy, also with a high protein diet its easy to forget vegetables and fruit.

It hard to find and maintain good habits of looking after yourself.

Maybe, but for those with asd it is a must especially with the missing identity we deal with


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19 Jan 2020, 6:04 pm

Broccoli is supposed to be one of the best foods for autism (and broccoli and pea sprouts). The chemicals in that. However people can have sensitivities to foods like that, so cooking is better than raw in that case. My mom (she regularly get burn out and certainly has autism undiagnosed, she used to have to be force-fed till she was about 11 or 12, as she was like my son in that she refused to eat anything) said eggs help her too.

I ate raw (organic) cabbage at my mom's the other day, and it was so much tastier and sweeter than non-organic cabbage.

We were shocked at how good it was raw.

It totally cut my cravings for cake/brownies/etc that day, just to eat that. My point (because with my posts it's always difficult to tell what I'm trying to say as I run off into so many random things) is that...
maybe getting organic of some veggies (frozen can be cheaper?) would help get more veggies in the diet, since organic veggies often taste better?
I know it's expensive but it isn't always that bad, sometimes some items sell for the same as non-organic prices (in some locations.)

Or local farmer's market fresh stuff is supposed to taste better (even if it's not organic)...compared to stuff imported from other countries. I hated cabbage until the cabbage I had at my mom's house last week, that's why I am saying that.


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20 Jan 2020, 12:17 am

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Broccoli is supposed to be one of the best foods for autism (and broccoli and pea sprouts). The chemicals in that. However people can have sensitivities to foods like that, so cooking is better than raw in that case. My mom (she regularly get burn out and certainly has autism undiagnosed, she used to have to be force-fed till she was about 11 or 12, as she was like my son in that she refused to eat anything) said eggs help her too.

I ate raw (organic) cabbage at my mom's the other day, and it was so much tastier and sweeter than non-organic cabbage.

We were shocked at how good it was raw.

It totally cut my cravings for cake/brownies/etc that day, just to eat that. My point (because with my posts it's always difficult to tell what I'm trying to say as I run off into so many random things) is that...
maybe getting organic of some veggies (frozen can be cheaper?) would help get more veggies in the diet, since organic veggies often taste better?
I know it's expensive but it isn't always that bad, sometimes some items sell for the same as non-organic prices (in some locations.)

Or local farmer's market fresh stuff is supposed to taste better (even if it's not organic)...compared to stuff imported from other countries. I hated cabbage until the cabbage I had at my mom's house last week, that's why I am saying that.
I hear that about organic, it's very true tho it.seems kind of commercialized here like fake organic. Some people don't like vegetables but they are good cooked I think. Really cabbage is usually sour interesting. I grow a few vegetables in my garden never cabbage, because of the destructive cabbage worm. But I can attest to garden fresh being better. Eggs are good too very versatile.


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20 Jan 2020, 2:22 pm

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Hi Cloudman - as aquafelix wrote "pushing too much for too long has consequences". I was a workaholic for many years, working 6 days a week, long hours, and wound up with pneumonia and then pleurisy, needing 3 months to recover. You need to ensure a balance of work and life/play, which is difficult, and only later did I realise I could allow myself a 4 day week to breathe... Made a huge difference. I love what they're doing in Denmark https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/03/denmark-best-work-life-balance-oecd/

Your right you may have saved me. I had this idea in my head I need to work more more and more, but the reality is l need balance our bodies can only handle so much and I think people with asd really do things throughly. This adds to the load, it's not the asd person's fault they it's how there brain works


Sorry to hear about your costochondritis(can be quite painful, though generally harmless, thankfully). Glad you could see the Doc. Yes, it's almost like we have to give ourselves permission to ease off. I felt as though I was thriving, as things just kept getting better and better, as far as the job went, and it was incredibly rewarding as well. So, if it wasn't for the body demanding a break, I probably would have worked myself to death :P ... the momentum was increasing, that's for sure.

Thanks its getting much better. I find with time. Wow.. I understand it seemed like the right thing to do for you, but our body knows the limit it will put the brakes on. So even though you overdid it you still got great progress that is great to hear. This condition tho makes me think is it just that we aren't conditioning our bodies and minds to be able to work more, and not stopping as you mentioned. I want to get into landscaping,but how my body will hold up is a mystery. I'm trying to adjust my diet to eat more protein its difficult I love carbohydrates like bread and rice they are cheap and easy, also with a high protein diet its easy to forget vegetables and fruit.


Hi Cloud - It caught my eye when you mentioned wanting to get into landscaping. I landscaped my entire yard(which is pretty large :P ... planned it very carefully, researched to the hilt(I'm self-taught in pretty much all that I do), put in a pretty quintessentially English rose garden in the front(lots of David Austin roses), with underplantings of geranium, electric-blue lithodora, forget-me-nots. Had a weeping willow removed in the centre of the front garden as it was damaging my house. researched and replaced it with a beautiful Japanese Crabapple tree(the blossoms are beautiful in the Spring, and when they fall, it's like snow floating down .... like in the latest 1917 film ... very pretty!). Back yard, I put in a Japanese Garden, decking, and painted and fixed up what I now call my She-Shed lol!) The side is an above ground pond of koi, with a garden room that I've turned into my own private hollodeck ... where I can swim anytime of the day or night to de-stress). It's very tropical in there, no matter that it's winter here in England at the moment...

You're absolutely right that diet is very important. I too have found a high protein diet to be of help(and also love carbs). I'm trying to work with it, not against it ... so I have high energy days and some, low energy days. I was a gymnast, swimmer, runner, thrived on sports. I love to cook. I home grow fresh fruit and veges. Fresh is best, no question, though it's alot of work. It seems to be all or nothing with me, as I can't help but give it 100% when I'm interested in something. So much I could say about energy levels and burn-out. For anyone suffering extremes of sustained energy loss, falling asleep after school/college/Uni etc, well there's what's "the norm" for those on the spectrum, and then, there's the kind that's tied in with auto-immune disorders ... I don't have an auto-immune disorder, but a family member has MG(which is dangerous), so it's important to be aware and do your research if possible. Have a Doc check you out if you have concerns. I had to have someone checked over, and convincing a Doc of your concerns when something extremely rare is at play, can be difficult, but life-saving for some. All the best with your landscaping plans. Healthy choice ... hard work, but so rewarding!



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24 Jan 2020, 1:39 pm

Juliette wrote:
Cloudman wrote:
Juliette wrote:
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Hi Cloudman - as aquafelix wrote "pushing too much for too long has consequences". I was a workaholic for many years, working 6 days a week, long hours, and wound up with pneumonia and then pleurisy, needing 3 months to recover. You need to ensure a balance of work and life/play, which is difficult, and only later did I realise I could allow myself a 4 day week to breathe... Made a huge difference. I love what they're doing in Denmark https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/03/denmark-best-work-life-balance-oecd/

Your right you may have saved me. I had this idea in my head I need to work more more and more, but the reality is l need balance our bodies can only handle so much and I think people with asd really do things throughly. This adds to the load, it's not the asd person's fault they it's how there brain works


Sorry to hear about your costochondritis(can be quite painful, though generally harmless, thankfully). Glad you could see the Doc. Yes, it's almost like we have to give ourselves permission to ease off. I felt as though I was thriving, as things just kept getting better and better, as far as the job went, and it was incredibly rewarding as well. So, if it wasn't for the body demanding a break, I probably would have worked myself to death :P ... the momentum was increasing, that's for sure.

Thanks its getting much better. I find with time. Wow.. I understand it seemed like the right thing to do for you, but our body knows the limit it will put the brakes on. So even though you overdid it you still got great progress that is great to hear. This condition tho makes me think is it just that we aren't conditioning our bodies and minds to be able to work more, and not stopping as you mentioned. I want to get into landscaping,but how my body will hold up is a mystery. I'm trying to adjust my diet to eat more protein its difficult I love carbohydrates like bread and rice they are cheap and easy, also with a high protein diet its easy to forget vegetables and fruit.


Hi Cloud - It caught my eye when you mentioned wanting to get into landscaping. I landscaped my entire yard(which is pretty large :P ... planned it very carefully, researched to the hilt(I'm self-taught in pretty much all that I do), put in a pretty quintessentially English rose garden in the front(lots of David Austin roses), with underplantings of geranium, electric-blue lithodora, forget-me-nots. Had a weeping willow removed in the centre of the front garden as it was damaging my house. researched and replaced it with a beautiful Japanese Crabapple tree(the blossoms are beautiful in the Spring, and when they fall, it's like snow floating down .... like in the latest 1917 film ... very pretty!). Back yard, I put in a Japanese Garden, decking, and painted and fixed up what I now call my She-Shed lol!) The side is an above ground pond of koi, with a garden room that I've turned into my own private hollodeck ... where I can swim anytime of the day or night to de-stress). It's very tropical in there, no matter that it's winter here in England at the moment...

You're absolutely right that diet is very important. I too have found a high protein diet to be of help(and also love carbs). I'm trying to work with it, not against it ... so I have high energy days and some, low energy days. I was a gymnast, swimmer, runner, thrived on sports. I love to cook. I home grow fresh fruit and veges. Fresh is best, no question, though it's alot of work. It seems to be all or nothing with me, as I can't help but give it 100% when I'm interested in something. So much I could say about energy levels and burn-out. For anyone suffering extremes of sustained energy loss, falling asleep after school/college/Uni etc, well there's what's "the norm" for those on the spectrum, and then, there's the kind that's tied in with auto-immune disorders ... I don't have an auto-immune disorder, but a family member has MG(which is dangerous), so it's important to be aware and do your research if possible. Have a Doc check you out if you have concerns. I had to have someone checked over, and convincing a Doc of your concerns when something extremely rare is at play, can be difficult, but life-saving for some. All the best with your landscaping plans. Healthy choice ... hard work, but so rewarding!

That is so cool. You are living the dream I want to grow some fruit trees I got a cherry a gogi berry, choke berry and am ordering a bitter Chinese orange it's a orange that can survive cold it's what I have been dreaming about lol. I want to visit your home you got everything jk. I see. Yeah only thing is carbs will make you too full to eat protein. Maybe you can teach me if I ever visit the UK. I'm looking for some kind of mentorship.i also been thinking about going east somewhere in Asia


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It is good to take it seriously and take a rest or spend more time relaxing. Simplify life as much as possible so you will avoid stress.
Bear in mind that even though you will start to feel that you've recovered, don't then be tempted to launch yourself flat out into the type of situations that may have caused the burnout. Rather ease your way gradually and be a bit more conservative and careful, as through my experiences in life, though I have in the past felt that I have recovered, I then launched myself back into the stress causing situations and found myself hitting further burnouts which were deeper and longer lasting. So what I am saying is that recovery may take a lot longer then one thinks.
You need a long lasting recovery, which may need more time.
The Victorians had some good ideas for those who could afford it. To take a years holiday in a cottage near the sea. The concept of doing this can be the ideal enviroment and change of scenery one needs to recover. But unfortunately life may not provide for us the possibilities to do this. The thought is ideal as the years break would be just the right thing to recover.



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Cloudman wrote:
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Hi Cloudman - as aquafelix wrote "pushing too much for too long has consequences". I was a workaholic for many years, working 6 days a week, long hours, and wound up with pneumonia and then pleurisy, needing 3 months to recover. You need to ensure a balance of work and life/play, which is difficult, and only later did I realise I could allow myself a 4 day week to breathe... Made a huge difference. I love what they're doing in Denmark https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/03/denmark-best-work-life-balance-oecd/

Your right you may have saved me. I had this idea in my head I need to work more more and more, but the reality is l need balance our bodies can only handle so much and I think people with asd really do things throughly. This adds to the load, it's not the asd person's fault they it's how there brain works


Sorry to hear about your costochondritis(can be quite painful, though generally harmless, thankfully). Glad you could see the Doc. Yes, it's almost like we have to give ourselves permission to ease off. I felt as though I was thriving, as things just kept getting better and better, as far as the job went, and it was incredibly rewarding as well. So, if it wasn't for the body demanding a break, I probably would have worked myself to death :P ... the momentum was increasing, that's for sure.

Thanks its getting much better. I find with time. Wow.. I understand it seemed like the right thing to do for you, but our body knows the limit it will put the brakes on. So even though you overdid it you still got great progress that is great to hear. This condition tho makes me think is it just that we aren't conditioning our bodies and minds to be able to work more, and not stopping as you mentioned. I want to get into landscaping,but how my body will hold up is a mystery. I'm trying to adjust my diet to eat more protein its difficult I love carbohydrates like bread and rice they are cheap and easy, also with a high protein diet its easy to forget vegetables and fruit.


Hi Cloud - It caught my eye when you mentioned wanting to get into landscaping. I landscaped my entire yard(which is pretty large :P ... planned it very carefully, researched to the hilt(I'm self-taught in pretty much all that I do), put in a pretty quintessentially English rose garden in the front(lots of David Austin roses), with underplantings of geranium, electric-blue lithodora, forget-me-nots. Had a weeping willow removed in the centre of the front garden as it was damaging my house. researched and replaced it with a beautiful Japanese Crabapple tree(the blossoms are beautiful in the Spring, and when they fall, it's like snow floating down .... like in the latest 1917 film ... very pretty!). Back yard, I put in a Japanese Garden, decking, and painted and fixed up what I now call my She-Shed lol!) The side is an above ground pond of koi, with a garden room that I've turned into my own private hollodeck ... where I can swim anytime of the day or night to de-stress). It's very tropical in there, no matter that it's winter here in England at the moment...

You're absolutely right that diet is very important. I too have found a high protein diet to be of help(and also love carbs). I'm trying to work with it, not against it ... so I have high energy days and some, low energy days. I was a gymnast, swimmer, runner, thrived on sports. I love to cook. I home grow fresh fruit and veges. Fresh is best, no question, though it's alot of work. It seems to be all or nothing with me, as I can't help but give it 100% when I'm interested in something. So much I could say about energy levels and burn-out. For anyone suffering extremes of sustained energy loss, falling asleep after school/college/Uni etc, well there's what's "the norm" for those on the spectrum, and then, there's the kind that's tied in with auto-immune disorders ... I don't have an auto-immune disorder, but a family member has MG(which is dangerous), so it's important to be aware and do your research if possible. Have a Doc check you out if you have concerns. I had to have someone checked over, and convincing a Doc of your concerns when something extremely rare is at play, can be difficult, but life-saving for some. All the best with your landscaping plans. Healthy choice ... hard work, but so rewarding!

That is so cool. You are living the dream I want to grow some fruit trees I got a cherry a gogi berry, choke berry and am ordering a bitter Chinese orange it's a orange that can survive cold it's what I have been dreaming about lol. I want to visit your home you got everything jk. I see. Yeah only thing is carbs will make you too full to eat protein. Maybe you can teach me if I ever visit the UK. I'm looking for some kind of mentorship.i also been thinking about going east somewhere in Asia


A bitter Chinese orange? Sounds good! Mmmm you've got me thinking of orange trees now ... had one in Aus. Here, I've got lemon, apple varieties, pear, cherry, kiwifruit, grapes, strawberries ... need an orange.

Yes, carbs I only tend to have before a scheduled hike... knee deep in snow ... Going East sounds good! I've been to Japan & Cyprus on the Asian list of adventures ... travelled alot last year. Travelling again shortly. By all means, you are very welcome should you ever need an Aspie-friendly place to stay in England. I've often had those on the spectrum staying for a few days, film making and sightseeing... some just in need of a break. Very welcome.



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27 Jan 2020, 6:19 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
It is good to take it seriously and take a rest or spend more time relaxing. Simplify life as much as possible so you will avoid stress.
Bear in mind that even though you will start to feel that you've recovered, don't then be tempted to launch yourself flat out into the type of situations that may have caused the burnout. Rather ease your way gradually and be a bit more conservative and careful, as through my experiences in life, though I have in the past felt that I have recovered, I then launched myself back into the stress causing situations and found myself hitting further burnouts which were deeper and longer lasting. So what I am saying is that recovery may take a lot longer then one thinks.
You need a long lasting recovery, which may need more time.
The Victorians had some good ideas for those who could afford it. To take a years holiday in a cottage near the sea. The concept of doing this can be the ideal enviroment and change of scenery one needs to recover. But unfortunately life may not provide for us the possibilities to do this. The thought is ideal as the years break would be just the right thing to recover.

Ah i really like that idea. To work hard then have time To recover, maybe i should save up to do so however,when i come back i wont know where to find a job. In also think diet plays a role in this, by affecting the rate in which you recover


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Hi Cloudman - as aquafelix wrote "pushing too much for too long has consequences". I was a workaholic for many years, working 6 days a week, long hours, and wound up with pneumonia and then pleurisy, needing 3 months to recover. You need to ensure a balance of work and life/play, which is difficult, and only later did I realise I could allow myself a 4 day week to breathe... Made a huge difference. I love what they're doing in Denmark https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/03/denmark-best-work-life-balance-oecd/

Your right you may have saved me. I had this idea in my head I need to work more more and more, but the reality is l need balance our bodies can only handle so much and I think people with asd really do things throughly. This adds to the load, it's not the asd person's fault they it's how there brain works


Sorry to hear about your costochondritis(can be quite painful, though generally harmless, thankfully). Glad you could see the Doc. Yes, it's almost like we have to give ourselves permission to ease off. I felt as though I was thriving, as things just kept getting better and better, as far as the job went, and it was incredibly rewarding as well. So, if it wasn't for the body demanding a break, I probably would have worked myself to death :P ... the momentum was increasing, that's for sure.

Thanks its getting much better. I find with time. Wow.. I understand it seemed like the right thing to do for you, but our body knows the limit it will put the brakes on. So even though you overdid it you still got great progress that is great to hear. This condition tho makes me think is it just that we aren't conditioning our bodies and minds to be able to work more, and not stopping as you mentioned. I want to get into landscaping,but how my body will hold up is a mystery. I'm trying to adjust my diet to eat more protein its difficult I love carbohydrates like bread and rice they are cheap and easy, also with a high protein diet its easy to forget vegetables and fruit.


Hi Cloud - It caught my eye when you mentioned wanting to get into landscaping. I landscaped my entire yard(which is pretty large :P ... planned it very carefully, researched to the hilt(I'm self-taught in pretty much all that I do), put in a pretty quintessentially English rose garden in the front(lots of David Austin roses), with underplantings of geranium, electric-blue lithodora, forget-me-nots. Had a weeping willow removed in the centre of the front garden as it was damaging my house. researched and replaced it with a beautiful Japanese Crabapple tree(the blossoms are beautiful in the Spring, and when they fall, it's like snow floating down .... like in the latest 1917 film ... very pretty!). Back yard, I put in a Japanese Garden, decking, and painted and fixed up what I now call my She-Shed lol!) The side is an above ground pond of koi, with a garden room that I've turned into my own private hollodeck ... where I can swim anytime of the day or night to de-stress). It's very tropical in there, no matter that it's winter here in England at the moment...

You're absolutely right that diet is very important. I too have found a high protein diet to be of help(and also love carbs). I'm trying to work with it, not against it ... so I have high energy days and some, low energy days. I was a gymnast, swimmer, runner, thrived on sports. I love to cook. I home grow fresh fruit and veges. Fresh is best, no question, though it's alot of work. It seems to be all or nothing with me, as I can't help but give it 100% when I'm interested in something. So much I could say about energy levels and burn-out. For anyone suffering extremes of sustained energy loss, falling asleep after school/college/Uni etc, well there's what's "the norm" for those on the spectrum, and then, there's the kind that's tied in with auto-immune disorders ... I don't have an auto-immune disorder, but a family member has MG(which is dangerous), so it's important to be aware and do your research if possible. Have a Doc check you out if you have concerns. I had to have someone checked over, and convincing a Doc of your concerns when something extremely rare is at play, can be difficult, but life-saving for some. All the best with your landscaping plans. Healthy choice ... hard work, but so rewarding!

That is so cool. You are living the dream I want to grow some fruit trees I got a cherry a gogi berry, choke berry and am ordering a bitter Chinese orange it's a orange that can survive cold it's what I have been dreaming about lol. I want to visit your home you got everything jk. I see. Yeah only thing is carbs will make you too full to eat protein. Maybe you can teach me if I ever visit the UK. I'm looking for some kind of mentorship.i also been thinking about going east somewhere in Asia


A bitter Chinese orange? Sounds good! Mmmm you've got me thinking of orange trees now ... had one in Aus. Here, I've got lemon, apple varieties, pear, cherry, kiwifruit, grapes, strawberries ... need an orange.

Yes, carbs I only tend to have before a scheduled hike... knee deep in snow ... Going East sounds good! I've been to Japan & Cyprus on the Asian list of adventures ... travelled alot last year. Travelling again shortly. By all means, you are very welcome should you ever need an Aspie-friendly place to stay in England. I've often had those on the spectrum staying for a few days, film making and sightseeing... some just in need of a break. Very welcome.

I see you are very active. You Destroy the stereotype that aspies stay at home all the time. Ah u lived in aus cool... You grow all that in England that is superb. Yes there are many varieties of oranges you can grow go for it, the bitter orange is more a ornamental a practice tree for me. It would be great to meet you i do need to see something different. Its awsome that you welcome those on the spectrum in we need more people like you


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27 Jan 2020, 11:59 am

My brain cannot get organized on its own, I need instructions and someone there to tell me, I can be active if someone is there to help with transitions and telling me and helping plan.

A lady (care coordinator for son's services) came over, and helped me organize 3 sets of files. She set it up, suggested it herself, and everything.

She helped me sort through a lot of papers, I have to continue and carry on, I don't want to let her down.

She told me her son (one of them) has ADHD so she understands.

Her other son is severe Ausistic, adult, and she is a great lady.
She told me she used to be a teacher. Maybe that's why she recognized I needed help and knew how she could help. I need a person like that at my back, or in front of me to tell me or help that's all I need.

On my own, I don't have instructions from a person, nor a step-by-step to follow. Nobody or anything EXTERNAL to me, to help initiate or transition.
Nobody to refer to if I need help (which gives me anxiety from starting the task, as I know if something is confusing I can't ask anyone).

These type of things would help greatly in reducing burnouts and accomplishing what I can, but I need that help but nobody gives it except the lady mentioned above and XH used to, a little. Now he doesn't.


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27 Jan 2020, 2:55 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
My brain cannot get organized on its own, I need instructions and someone there to tell me, I can be active if someone is there to help with transitions and telling me and helping plan.

A lady (care coordinator for son's services) came over, and helped me organize 3 sets of files. She set it up, suggested it herself, and everything.

She helped me sort through a lot of papers, I have to continue and carry on, I don't want to let her down.

She told me her son (one of them) has ADHD so she understands.

Her other son is severe Ausistic, adult, and she is a great lady.
She told me she used to be a teacher. Maybe that's why she recognized I needed help and knew how she could help. I need a person like that at my back, or in front of me to tell me or help that's all I need.

On my own, I don't have instructions from a person, nor a step-by-step to follow. Nobody or anything EXTERNAL to me, to help initiate or transition.
Nobody to refer to if I need help (which gives me anxiety from starting the task, as I know if something is confusing I can't ask anyone).

These type of things would help greatly in reducing burnouts and accomplishing what I can, but I need that help but nobody gives it except the lady mentioned above and XH used to, a little. Now he doesn't.
I see I think I understand you need someone to help you do things in a way which will be more efficient
That makes sense I think I'm similar. I just deal with the same situation differently what seemed to help me when I learned to drive the instructor told me to keep on moving my head I think this goes deeper than just that I had to keep moving my mind my focus.i also use timers to change my focus once that time is up you do something else ideally 1hour its always relative to the situation when you will need to change focus. Could be 1 sec on the road 2 min in a conversation 2 hours before you need to stop, but its something we can learn even if for others it natural


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