Male vs female Asperger

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Walrus is right in this case, I believe.

While that’s technically accurate, it’s not a helpful way to distinguish between people diagnosed as children and people diagnosed as adults, because they are all autistic.

There isn’t, and shouldn’t be, a monolithic term for such a person.

Except maybe.....”a person who was diagnosed with ASD in adulthood.”

I understand. I wasn't trying to be flippant, but there really isn't a word.

"Later-identified autism" is all that comes to mind.

Understood. In that case, I'll answer the actual subject of the topic as well.



There's no proof backing this up. Some men have it really hard, but so do some women. Some men only have mild symptoms, so do some women.



I wouldn't be so sure about that either; lots of men have bad sensory issues as well. In fact, it's said that around 70 % of those on the spectrum have troublesome sensory issues. Since there are more diagnosed men than women, it sounds pretty clear that men can have bad sensory issues as well.



I don't think so. I at least don't have trouble with changes even if they are someone else's idea, as long as I'm informed beforehand. I don't need to be in charge of the changes.

What makes it rethoric/a just so story? I mean that is a broad sweeping claim to make... Could you explain your reasons for stating this.

It was also my understanding that these men vs women type of threads were not supported as they had a pattern of leading onto divisions and drama and had become a just so story of their own, ie the same unhelpful monologues back and forth and then the disharmony.
Much energy has been spent mending the effects of these divisive threads.

The problem with these “gender battles” is that individuals are not taken into account. False generalizations are made.

I didn't mean to say "all" men or "all" women. I meant to ask a statistical question. So the question is: if we were to make a survey among male and female autistics as to who has more severe social skills issues and who has more severe sensory issues and compare the "percentages" of male and female responders for each one, would the percentages be roughly the same or different? Sorry for not clarifying it in the OP.

Statistics are relied upon too much when it comes to the social sciences.

Just because it is alleged that 80% of autistic people are unemployed....doesn’t mean that any one individual autistic person WILL be unemployed.

I don't know the answer to that, QFT. Firstly are you talking about biological sex (born male vs born female), or gender identity? I'm not trying to complicate the matter or be political but honestly, and especially with a sample of autistic respondents, you are likely to survey a lot of people who are androgynous, agendered, transgendered, genderfluid, etc. Any difference you may find in your data about sensory issues could be relative to their hormonal chemistry, or other factors associated with their gender development. There are too many variables.

If you are talking about cis males vs cis females again you would need to factor in co-morbid conditions such as PTSD, agoraphobia, RBFB, BDD, OCD, and anxiety. All of these can lead to an increased need for self-soothing / stimming. It also depends where the person is raised. If I were raised in an Isabella-friendly environment with dim lights and no sensory triggers I might not even report the existence of those triggers.

I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm pulling your question apart. I'm not trying to. It's a somewhat interesting question and one I've never heard before. I've never heard sensory issues delineated by gender. Maybe our sensory issues are dependent on our hair colour or our shoe size, or our blood type? There are so many factors to consider. It's almost like trying to determine what causes autism in the first place.

There are plenty of guys here with sensory issues.

How about four groups: cis women, sismen, mtf and ftm. The more information the better.



These questions don't negate one another. Its possible that men and women are, statistically, raised differently -- and this statistical difference on how they are raised leads to the statistical difference between genders. Of course, its also possible that the difference is biological. So one can get "level 1 information" about the "sum-total" statistical difference between men and women -- and after that ask "level 2 question" in terms of to what extend its biological and to what extend its due to how they are raised.



Yes, I agree with you it might be interesting to look at all these other parameters you mentioned. But none of those questions negate any of the other ones. So I can still ask the gender question -- and then, separately, ask those other questions.

I think it is obvious that boys and girls are raised differently. There is a constant stream of complaints about toys and other influences being different. However, to believe that culture is the root cause of statistical differences between men and women is to ignore both physiology and every other species on Earth.

I really enjoy being a female who thinks differently(but feels very feminine) and I don’t believe that my experiences(sensory, behaviourally etc etc) are any different to what a male on the spectrum experiences. Though we’re all individuals, from everything I’ve known of the male presentation(generally speaking)tells me that females can be no different ... that it just depends on their coping strategies and ability to learn self-control(which some never achieve).

I agree that individuals can excel in "opposite" gender roles, but I think that the average will always show distinct differences in abilities and inclinations. That produces couples with a wider range of talents, which is good for the children. How could you "feel very feminine" if there were no innate difference?

Hi dear one - when I wrote the above, it was with the original post in mind. That being focussed on the three issues of social skills, sensory, and change. I don’t feel that my experiences in those areas, are any different from your average male on the spectrum. I can’t say it matters too much to me personally whether a female can do as well as a man in the realm of employment. What matters to me, is whether or not someone is healthy and happy in life and work. What’s also important is ensuring we’re all given the same opportunities. I found that because I was born female, my father(autistic) didn’t think I should go on to further education, that girls are meant for marriage and shouldn’t work at all. I somehow managed to get myself a part-time job, and pay for my own uniform, books and education from the age of 16 onwards. The things I was expected to do, look after him, my family(due to my mother’s passing), do family shopping and housework as well as study taught me patience and that hard work pays. My experiences are no different to many males in various countries, who have lost a parent. Male or female, I don’t feel that gender had a whole lot to do with the outcome of my life. It all came down to determination and the will to go after what I wanted.