My Parents don't trust me to go anywhere.

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13 Jul 2020, 6:58 pm

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My 15 yr old walks to school by her self and is able to catch public transport, Since Covid she is not allowed to be out of our sight outside of schooltime.

This was before covid.


Then doesn't it make sense your parents are only concerned for your welfare? Once you turn 18 you will be able to argue that you want to exercise your rights to be independent but until then start preparing.



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13 Jul 2020, 7:10 pm

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My 15 yr old walks to school by her self and is able to catch public transport, Since Covid she is not allowed to be out of our sight outside of schooltime.

This was before covid.


Then doesn't it make sense your parents are only concerned for your welfare? Once you turn 18 you will be able to argue that you want to exercise your rights to be independent but until then start preparing.

That doesn't make it any less frustrating to not be allowed out of the house by yourself. I said in my previous posts that I understand why they are doing it. But it doesn't help with the problem of them not trusting me to be responsible by myself.


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13 Jul 2020, 8:14 pm

I am sorry, I cannot relate to your problem. When I was 4 or 5 years old, I would wander the deep woods for hours at a time. I could always find my way back home.

If this has been going on for a couple years as your post stated, then it is pre COVID. Something must have triggered this reaction. Have you ever been lost and unable to find your way back home? Do you live in a dangerous neighborhood?

Not being allowed to be alone in your own back yard, that is strange. Are they worried that you would open the gate and simply walk off?

I like blazingstar's answer:

One way that I have seen work with some parents, is to start small and build on small successes. Would they let you walk around the block? Would they let you walk on your own for five minutes? Do you have a cell phone that you can call them on if you do have a problem?

Would they let you have a walk once a week? Once per day? Ask them what seems reasonable to them. Show them you can work with them. Over time, if you have successful small walks, you can ask to have those walks extended.


Did you ever have a panic attack in public? Is this the problem? In a deep meltdown, a person can lose their ability to communicate. They collapse. It is called a state of "tonic immobility". If that is the case, always carry a card with you that reads:
I have Asperger's Syndrome (or I am autistic)
I am suffering a severe panic attack.
I live at: (address)
My parents are: (names)
Please contact them at: (phone number)

And if you should suffer a panic attack and unable to talk, show the card to someone in authority.


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13 Jul 2020, 8:18 pm

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Would they let you have a walk once a week? Once per day? Ask them what seems reasonable to them. Show them you can work with them. Over time, if you have successful small walks, you can ask to have those walks extended. [/i]


COVID-19?



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13 Jul 2020, 8:22 pm

Pieplup wrote:
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My 15 yr old walks to school by her self and is able to catch public transport, Since Covid she is not allowed to be out of our sight outside of schooltime.

This was before covid.


Then doesn't it make sense your parents are only concerned for your welfare? Once you turn 18 you will be able to argue that you want to exercise your rights to be independent but until then start preparing.

That doesn't make it any less frustrating to not be allowed out of the house by yourself. I said in my previous posts that I understand why they are doing it. But it doesn't help with the problem of them not trusting me to be responsible by myself.


So preparing is like Blazing star and Jimmy suggested which is to negotiate with your parents to start small.
1. Go to backyard
2. a 5 minutes down the street
3. 15 min walk
4. 30 min walk

Once COVID_19 is controlled or there is a vaccine then the next step is to catch public transport. My daughter used to catch trains, buses etc before the lockdown and she was 14 (she had her 15th birthday recently).



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13 Jul 2020, 8:26 pm

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I am sorry, I cannot relate to your problem. When I was 4 or 5 years old, I would wander the deep woods for hours at a time. I could always find my way back home.

If this has been going on for a couple years as your post stated, then it is pre COVID. Something must have triggered this reaction. Have you ever been lost and unable to find your way back home? Do you live in a dangerous neighborhood?

Not being allowed to be alone in your own back yard, that is strange. Are they worried that you would open the gate and simply walk off?

I like blazingstar's answer:

One way that I have seen work with some parents, is to start small and build on small successes. Would they let you walk around the block? Would they let you walk on your own for five minutes? Do you have a cell phone that you can call them on if you do have a problem?

Would they let you have a walk once a week? Once per day? Ask them what seems reasonable to them. Show them you can work with them. Over time, if you have successful small walks, you can ask to have those walks extended.

As far as i'm aware i've never gotten lost anywhere. I guess i should mention my step-mom worries about things a bit excessively. Well firstly we have no gate. and I don't think that's the issue either. as I could just walk of anyway.


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13 Jul 2020, 8:30 pm

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As far as i'm aware i've never gotten lost anywhere. I guess i should mention my step-mom worries about things a bit excessively. Well firstly we have no gate. and I don't think that's the issue either. as I could just walk of anyway.


In my updated post, I asked about panic attacks?


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13 Jul 2020, 8:33 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Pieplup wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pieplup wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
My 15 yr old walks to school by her self and is able to catch public transport, Since Covid she is not allowed to be out of our sight outside of schooltime.

This was before covid.


Then doesn't it make sense your parents are only concerned for your welfare? Once you turn 18 you will be able to argue that you want to exercise your rights to be independent but until then start preparing.

That doesn't make it any less frustrating to not be allowed out of the house by yourself. I said in my previous posts that I understand why they are doing it. But it doesn't help with the problem of them not trusting me to be responsible by myself.


So preparing is like Blazing star and Jimmy suggested which is to negotiate with your parents to start small.
1. Go to backyard
2. a 5 minutes down the street
3. 15 min walk
4. 30 min walk

Once COVID_19 is controlled or there is a vaccine then the next step is to catch public transport. My daughter used to catch trains, buses etc before the lockdown and she was 14 (she had her 15th birthday recently).

Maybe something like that might work. However, I now live in a somewhat rural area. I dont' think i'll be able to catch public transportation.
I've never been one to have panic attacks.


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13 Jul 2020, 9:04 pm

Pieplup, I see from your signature you have ADHD and social anxiety.

If I were your parents I'd probably be most bothered by the ADHD. You could set off with good intentions but then get distracted, or possibly deliberately lured astray. Get a good tune on your headphones and then step into the road. See a bright flashing light and forget where you are.

Having said that, adulting is mainly about knowing how to get out of trouble, rather than always avoiding any risk.

Risk is inevitable, it's how you deal with it that matters. It does seem bizarre to me that your life is so tightly controlled. If your Mom has anxiety that is a likely explanation - anxious people gain comfort by imposing tight control on the things they CAN control, to balance out the things they can't.

I think you need to work on building up trust with your Mom. Doing things when you are asked to, being on time etc. etc. A phone might be a good idea but bear in mind smartphones can be the kiss of death for anyone with ADHD - suddenly you have a permanent source of distraction in your hands. A robust, cheap Nokia would probably be better for you? Worst thing you can get addicted to there is Solitaire :D

As for social anxiety, I'm not bloody surprised if you never get to go anywhere!! ! Exploring the world in cautious, bite-sized chunks would be helpful for this, surely?



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13 Jul 2020, 9:40 pm

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Pieplup, I see from your signature you have ADHD and social anxiety.

If I were your parents I'd probably be most bothered by the ADHD. You could set off with good intentions but then get distracted, or possibly deliberately lured astray. Get a good tune on your headphones and then step into the road. See a bright flashing light and forget where you are.

Having said that, adulting is mainly about knowing how to get out of trouble, rather than always avoiding any risk.

Risk is inevitable, it's how you deal with it that matters. It does seem bizarre to me that your life is so tightly controlled. If your Mom has anxiety that is a likely explanation - anxious people gain comfort by imposing tight control on the things they CAN control, to balance out the things they can't.

I think you need to work on building up trust with your Mom. Doing things when you are asked to, being on time etc. etc. A phone might be a good idea but bear in mind smartphones can be the kiss of death for anyone with ADHD - suddenly you have a permanent source of distraction in your hands. A robust, cheap Nokia would probably be better for you? Worst thing you can get addicted to there is Solitaire :D

As for social anxiety, I'm not bloody surprised if you never get to go anywhere!! ! Exploring the world in cautious, bite-sized chunks would be helpful for this, surely?
I've taken adhd medication for most of my life. I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was a toddler. So adhd isn't that much of a problem. as for walking I probably wouldn't do a whole lot of walking on streets as the only street near me is a highway. and I'd rather been in the area by the river. Also, I'm not really talking about going to social places. I'm talking more places where I won't meet people and If I do they aren't very likely to talk to me. Also my entire family is diagnosed with social anxiety. When, I don't take my adhd medicine I go totally bonkers. :bounce: :compress: :shaking2: :shaking: I'm hyperactive and impulsive and can't pay attention. I generally can't talk to strangers. but I Think if I needed to I'd be able to get my point across clear enough to communicate. But it's not like i'm walking to the cornerstore to go buy groccies.


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14 Jul 2020, 9:57 am

Don't worry man, explain the situation clearly talk to them and create confidence.



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14 Jul 2020, 11:05 pm

OP, let me tell you one thing about parents: they love having power over their children, and they'll do anything to take or keep it. Which includes leveraging the Corona scamdemic in their favor. They SAY it's to protect you from Corona, or something else equally inane, but in reality, they just like controlling you. People are people.

You're 17. You're a strong man. You can tough it out another year, and do what your parents tell you. Sneak liquor or do whatever you're able to relax yourself. Then once you're a legal adult, you can move out of your parents' home, permanently social distance from them, and do whatever you want with nobody to stop you. I'm sure they taught you that all actions have consequences; you'll be able to turn the message back onto them.



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14 Jul 2020, 11:19 pm

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Maybe something like that might work. However, I now live in a somewhat rural area. I dont' think i'll be able to catch public transportation.
I've never been one to have panic attacks.


My daughter has a mobile phone and she rings me as she gets on the school bus and before she gets off. Now with COVID-19 I drop her a 1km from her school and she walks, I pick her up in the same place so I give her the opportunity to be an independent traveller to and from school. She still rings/or sms me. I am able to track her but I let her be independent.



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OP, let me tell you one thing about parents: they love having power over their children, and they'll do anything to take or keep it. Which includes leveraging the Corona scamdemic in their favor. They SAY it's to protect you from Corona, or something else equally inane, but in reality, they just like controlling you. People are people.

You're 17. You're a strong man. You can tough it out another year, and do what your parents tell you. Sneak liquor or do whatever you're able to relax yourself. Then once you're a legal adult, you can move out of your parents' home, permanently social distance from them, and do whatever you want with nobody to stop you. I'm sure they taught you that all actions have consequences; you'll be able to turn the message back onto them.

[color=#0077aa] This is Horrible advice, and me moving out by myself is unlikely to happen anytime in the foreseeable future. [/color


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15 Jul 2020, 11:05 am

Obviously, Aspie1 you don’t know anyone who has gotten the virus. I’m sure you’ll feel differently when someone you know has symptoms or dies from it.


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16 Jul 2020, 4:13 am

I lived under similar conditions, and I can say that what they are doing to you is diabolical. There is such a thing as learned helplessness. If you never have the chance to be independent, you'll never learn how to be independent, which will in turn confirm your parents' belief that you're incapable of being independent. It's a conscious plot to keep you under their power, so reasoning with them will do no good. Get out--completely out--as soon as you can, and don't look back. Good luck.


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