Is autism becoming infantalised?

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You are putting words in my mouth. Yuck.

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I for one don't think autism should be treated as something to fight about. That's an NT thing.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

I don't think we need to split hairs about politics to agree that people should be accommodated in any civil society.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

Fnord doesn't read what I say either. Join the club.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

I'm a hacker, I don't really hold your natural instincts to tear me a new one against you.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

... Nor am I unaccustomed to being treated like a child despite my adult experience.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

Do small children guzzle black coffee when you antagonize them?

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

Right now, I don't really feel that you need to have a "new one" torn, and when someone seems to be inferring that which you did not imply, I'll take your side of the argument.

You ARE big enough to handle it on your own, so I'll just sit back and watch.

I think there's some truth on both sides of the coin. Personally, to a large extent I simply avoid mainstream society because in my experience it's often just too hard and painful for me to stay afloat in it - I can usually get by without standing out as too weird, but applying all the necessary "fitting in" strategies (for example, having to go along with their uncomfortable rituals and hiding the fact that I'd like to tell them where to shove them) often leaves me feeling abused and wondering what the point was. By filtering out the more judgemental and ableist types and gravitating towards oddballs and outliers, I can have something like a social life without so much discomfort. And I don't think I'll ever quite forgive the world for being such a crappy place in general for an Aspie to have to live in, and although it's not rational, I can't quite escape the feeling that it's them who should change, not me, or at least meet me half way. To my mind, normal is often piss poor.

On the other hand, I'd not feel right if I didn't make the occasional excursion into the mainstream just to "keep my eye in." I'm very keen on pushing the envelope, as long as I limit it to gentle pressure on myself. I don't think I'll ever quite accept that I can't do this or that. One of the most important things to me is that I will be treated as an equal, though I think that large swathes of society are quite authoritarian and will never stop the downward pressure on the status of any individual who hasn't already achieved a particularly high position. I'm not interested in accepting that hierarchical jungle and fighting my way up it, so if it's not egalitarian, I'm mostly against it and would rather work to reform it, or even to bring it down, than embrace it.