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07 Sep 2020, 3:49 pm

Thank you!

I agree



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08 Sep 2020, 5:57 am

FranzOren wrote:
Can being violent be a symptom of classic Autism, depending on the situation?



I am now very good at reading and understanding, emotions, facial cues, body languages.


But I still have problems with social-emotional reciprocity, ranging, for example, from abnormal social approach and failure of normal back-and-forth conversation; to reduced sharing of interests, emotions, or affect; to failure to initiate or respond to social interactions.



I an nineteen years old.


I had this problem for nineteen years.


for nineteen years, I would only talk about things that fitted my specific subjects of interest, often manifesting as a borderline obsession with a few areas and/or hobbies.





I used to have severe communication delays, severe case of Prosopagnosia, learning disorders, borderline intellectual functioning, speech delay, bizarre interests, delusions, hallucinations, painful sensory issues and self-injury behaviors from my early childhood.


I also was violent and aggressive if my routine changed when I was a young child.



I know that Autistic people don't want connection between Autism and violence, but there is a difference between attacking someone who scared you, compare to planned violence.


I was so scared as a child if my routine changed, that is why I acted it violence



Huge difference!




I did not plan any violence, I just acted with my fear of my change in routine.

No violence isn't a symptom of autism itself but due to the limited emotional capacity of some people with autism or the tendency for autistic peopel to get overloaded in general. They can have meltdowns which can turn violent. But that's not really them choosing to be violent they aren't really thinking rationally at the tiem.


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08 Sep 2020, 6:43 am

I don't think anyone will admit it cos of the stigma.

But I have advice if you're reading this and you do suffer from it.

1 Let people know about it beforehand. They can help avoid over stimulation. And they're warned. And then hopefully they don't hit back which can make the situation worse.
2 Avoid any situation which might lead to a meltdown. Like how aggressive drunks should avoid alcohol.
3 If you do get into such a situation, get out of it as soon as possible. Before the meltdown starts ideally. Get on your own.
4 Apologise afterwards for harm caused. Yeah it's not your fault how it manifests. But drunks apologise for being aggressive when drunk. It's like that. You should always apologise when you have technically chosen to be violent to someone else.

2 and 3 can make it really unlikely to happen even in those people who do have this as their natural reaction.


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08 Sep 2020, 8:54 am

Thank you!

I will follow your advice



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08 Sep 2020, 11:16 am

People often resort to violence because they're angry. People usually get angry because they felt some type of injustice occurred. For example, it's been reported that around half of the school shooters in the US were autistic. I read articles that said all of them were on antidepressants because they felt society rejected them because they were different. Since rejecting people because they're different is wrong and unjust and that's what they believed was occurring to them, they were angry about it and wanted justice. In their case, their anger was based on a misunderstanding. People were probably just uncomfortable or didn't like them because they weren't being themselves, had emotional problems, or took things the wrong way because of their negative thinking. I think it's common for autistic people to misinterpret other people's actions as rejection.

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I was so scared as a child if my routine changed, that is why I acted it violence


Acting violently to prevent something bad from happening sounds like self-defense which is another reason people resort to violence.

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I also was violent and aggressive if my routine changed when I was a young child.


Some people may think their parents are being unjust by changing their routine and making their life more difficult if they don't understand why their parents changed their routine. If that case, people may get violent to express their anger at the perceived injustice. They're communicating to their parents, "What you're doing (changing my routine) is wrong because you're making my life more difficult for no reason."



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08 Sep 2020, 11:20 am

Thank you!

I understood



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09 Sep 2020, 7:18 pm

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I shoved my siblings when I was very young sometimes when they were teasing me (typical sibling behaviour), I wasn't good at putting my frustrations with them into words until I was about 6.

I do 'hurt' myself in the sense that I hit my thigh with my fist as a coping mechanism (sensory regulation) for an almost daily sensory overload at work. The more stressful the day, the harder I hit. I never perceived this as harmful/violent, possibly due to a high pain threshold (although I'm trying to change it, I sometimes bruise myself and, as my girlfriend pointed out: how will I be doing this when I'm 75 without breaking something).

I think it is like you said: very rarely is the violence a planned act. That doesn't mean it's okay to hurt anyone, but it does provide context and it means that there are ways to prevent it from happening.




Exactly!

Thank you!

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09 Sep 2020, 10:51 pm

Early in my life, I wasn't violent, but feeble and weak. After years of abuse (CSA) and being mistreated in hospitals (restraints for months without reprieve, except for periodic checks - even then, at least one limb would be restrained), I became increasingly violent. I am better now, as I understand what I could lose if I am violent, but I will throw things from time to time.



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09 Sep 2020, 11:03 pm

Thank you



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11 Sep 2020, 12:07 am

I got into many physical fights in elementary school with my bullies and I won them all. That's because my mum gave me a lot of spankings. I learned from the spankings that if someone is pissing me off that I should hit them. I regret getting into those fights that were always started by my bullies.


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13 Sep 2020, 3:38 pm

Thank you