Sheltered Community better for people with ASD

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15 Jan 2021, 2:06 pm

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I was more thinking of social housing that was designed for people on the spectrum, that was a safe place that people who have ASD could be tailored for (for example, sensory hypersensitivities etc), but also where there were staff living on site who would support as well as police.

I do not mean a commune, but more of a safe place. As people with ASD do have various problems, which if placed in normal social housing often get ignored.

I know, as presently the approach in the area that I live is to house people with ASD in normal social housing, around people who do not have ASD, and who do not understand ASD.

This means that in some cases people simply don't understand as to whether they are abusing you (as the disability is invisible, for example, some may not intentionally trigger meltdowns in people with ASD), and in some cases, they do understand what the condition was but don't care if they trigger meltdowns or not, and in some cases,
you get people in social housing who intentionally cause meltdowns through maliciousness.

So this is the issue for people with ASD living in normal society, perhaps applies more to people with ASD who ALSO have sensory impairment, which I understand isn't present in all people with ASD (so I would imagine that people who don't have these problems don't care as much, or in some cases don't care at all, as "I'm all right jack" if it doesn't affect me... it doesn't need to be done.. attitude so to speak).


Would this community be for autistics on the more severe end? 24 hour care staff and a police guard seems unnecessary for the vast majority of mild autistics.


I didn't see any mention of a police guard, but yeah I suspect autistic people are safer the further away they are from police. At least based on them shooting that autistic kid and murdering Elijah Mclain who also had autism.

But I suppose based on that what sort of security would be appropriate for such a community.


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15 Jan 2021, 2:22 pm

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Would self diagnosis be ok or would one need a professional diagnosis? ...
If a person has to show proof (a licensed physician's affidavit) of a physical disability to receive and display a "Handicapped Parking" sign on their vehicle, then it only stands to reason that a person would need to show proof (a licensed psychiatrist's affidavit) to even be put on a waiting list for residency in an "Autistics Only" community.

Now, I do not know how it is in the U.K. insofar as being eligible for "Council Housing", but I would wager that the processes should be similar.


It's a battle to get any authority to recognise anything non physical in the UK but the recently handicapped parking badges have gotten easier to get for people with non physical disabilities. I haven't tried applying for a handicapped car park badge but it would be sure be handy as hell to have one........and exploitative. I would personally love parking anywhere I like.



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15 Jan 2021, 2:33 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Nades wrote:
madbutnotmad wrote:
I was more thinking of social housing that was designed for people on the spectrum, that was a safe place that people who have ASD could be tailored for (for example, sensory hypersensitivities etc), but also where there were staff living on site who would support as well as police.

I do not mean a commune, but more of a safe place. As people with ASD do have various problems, which if placed in normal social housing often get ignored.

I know, as presently the approach in the area that I live is to house people with ASD in normal social housing, around people who do not have ASD, and who do not understand ASD.

This means that in some cases people simply don't understand as to whether they are abusing you (as the disability is invisible, for example, some may not intentionally trigger meltdowns in people with ASD), and in some cases, they do understand what the condition was but don't care if they trigger meltdowns or not, and in some cases,
you get people in social housing who intentionally cause meltdowns through maliciousness.

So this is the issue for people with ASD living in normal society, perhaps applies more to people with ASD who ALSO have sensory impairment, which I understand isn't present in all people with ASD (so I would imagine that people who don't have these problems don't care as much, or in some cases don't care at all, as "I'm all right jack" if it doesn't affect me... it doesn't need to be done.. attitude so to speak).


Would this community be for autistics on the more severe end? 24 hour care staff and a police guard seems unnecessary for the vast majority of mild autistics.


I didn't see any mention of a police guard, but yeah I suspect autistic people are safer the further away they are from police. At least based on them shooting that autistic kid and murdering Elijah Mclain who also had autism.

But I suppose based on that what sort of security would be appropriate for such a community.


No security will probably be best. I think a community like that might be OK provided it only houses autistics with no ability to live independently but otherwise I can't see it helping people who are able to live on their own.

Another problem might be autistics taking advantage of other autistics who are more able. Even NT's treat me like a personal Uber driver a lot of the time but I dread to think of how a gated community of aspies will treat me should I live in one. There might be very wealthy and capable aspies mixed in with aspies living hand to mouth who need constant assistance and I think the burden will fall on the more capable ones to go out of their way to help.