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09 Mar 2021, 12:00 pm

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Funnily enough, I work with all guys and they hardly ever talk about sports. What they talk about the most is cars and driving. Or they talk about their families. Or anything really. But hardly ever sports.

I think it is just a stereotype, a bit like Aspies liking math is a stereotype.

Every NT I know has their personal interests; gaming, music, art, cooking, gardening, hiking, knitting, animals, travelling, stamp-collecting, to name a few. Yes I know you'd say that these sound more like hobbies but it still takes a certain amount of interest to take up a hobby.
My 100% NT cousin loves animals so much that she studied and trained to be a vet as soon as she left school. Some NTs have more interests than others.


My mum is NT like your cousin and she's like that with animals too.

She's an actually interesting person though.


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09 Mar 2021, 12:09 pm

I forgot the number one specialist interest on WP is licking NT boot.


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09 Mar 2021, 12:09 pm

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Are they boring enough to spend every day of their life on a support site complaining about everyone who isn't like them?


I don't actually do that though.

Also I treat this place as a forum not as a support site.

They are boring enough to waste their days laughing at people who are different to them and who are able to be unique. Not myself - talking about people braver than me here.


So what exactly makes them deserving of your ridicule? They have different interests. Not everyone finds the same things interesting. There's a lot of fairly basic, shallow people out there but why concern yourself with people you don't relate to, especially if most of that concern is going to be expressed by telling us over and over again how you're so much more sophisticated and interesting than those people.

We're all boring.



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09 Mar 2021, 1:33 pm

They don't have any interests I don't have though.

Apart from making fun of people for trying to be different.

I wish I had the guts to be different.

But if I did I would be made fun of.

They lack interests.

Besides you do not have to read the complaints of your superior if you do not wish to.


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09 Mar 2021, 1:51 pm

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They don't have any interests I don't have though.

Apart from making fun of people for trying to be different.

I wish I had the guts to be different.

But if I did I would be made fun of.

They lack interests.

Besides you do not have to read the complaints of your superior if you do not wish to.


How do you know what interests people you don't know and have no interest in knowing?

I wish you had the guts to be different too, eventually one gets used to being made fun of and since you're already quite aloof it shouldn't take long to get to the point where being made fun of means nothing to you.



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09 Mar 2021, 3:16 pm

Because they specifically don't share them and it bores me.

And in case you mean getting drunk...

This is an area I am superior to them in. Humans are their brains. People who choose to kill off their braincells are idiots.

People do not grow used to being made fun of if people have social anxiety.

I'm constantly made fun of when I go outside just for wearing a scarf of a s**t football team or just for existing. Just for walking too fast or too slow or talking at all etc etc.

Wouldn't have the guts to be one of these people in alternative fashions. Those people are brave.

Every time I spend hours in people's company I get bored to tears unless they share interests with me. I wish that wasn't the case. I wish a scientist would meet my acquaintance. They would provide me with new thoughts.

Gossiping chavs don't do that. They're not used to using their brains. Probably why they like to kill it off.


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09 Mar 2021, 4:33 pm

NTs are more boring on average but the large majority of interesting people are still NTs. You're complaining about a specific personality type that's uncommon in autistic people. It's not that they lack interests; they're only interested in socializing and in things that its easy to socialize about, like sports or relationships. Most NTs are somewhere in the middle between what you're complaining about and the scholar and artist types.



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09 Mar 2021, 5:05 pm

Actually I agree with the OP about the drinking, but that's usually common in a lot of younger NTs. When a lot of NTs get towards their 30s they start to realise that there's more better things to do with their lives than partying and getting drunk. Those that carry on living such a wasteful lifestyle might be the types of NTs the OP is talking about.
That's why I've always got on with older people, people who have passed the stage that has the "partying and getting drunk is the be all and end all!" attitude.
My dad is a perfect example of this. He used to drink a lot, and although his stereotypical NT obsession with football remains, he has been drinking less as he's gotten older and has taken an interest in gardening - something he never used to be interested in 25 years ago.


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09 Mar 2021, 5:24 pm

These are all either:
People I share a hobby with. Their only hobby or at least the only one they share. I sit around social media looking at what they post and that is all they post. Day in day out, hour after hour. With the odd bit of politics.
People I share a hobby with. The only other things they will talk about is women, drinking and fighting. Not proper boxing, martial arts etc but 'do you want to meet up for a fight'...
People I have work experience with. Past tense but they wouldn't open up about anything other than backwards politics and gossip about other people.
Kids I went to school with. All they'd talk about is underage drinking, boys and more gossip.

I am not saying all NTs are like this but there's a substantial amount who are.

I find them unrelatable.

I want to know if they have hobbies because even if that hobby is something I do not find interesting, I guarantee if they love it and it doesn't involve sex or hurting other people or ruining themselves through drugs and drink, it will be somewhat interesting.

Heck, I'm not into model trains but I come on here & read aspies talk about their train sets and the amount of love and care they put into it makes it interesting. Especially because that is a creative pursuit.

I feel out of place as a football fan cos I want more out of life than fighting, tribalism and women (or whatever else: sex). I even want more than constant talking about Holyrood/Westminster/American party politics. That might not be all those kinds of people have to offer by way of conversation but that's all they're giving to me. So that's all I have to go on.

And I'm interested in some of the most stereotypical NT interests for people remotely with hobbies: football, scandalous enough gossip about a celebrity (I don't care who's fat, I care who's abusive or seriously strange), heck that's part of why I like reading - harmless gossip about fictional characters, TV, fashion as long as it's alternative enough, music. But all these things have three things in common: 1 they're not hurting those around me 2 they're not active self destruction and 3 they're actual interests rather than saying 'I'm not thinking about anything', even with something as passive as watching TV I don't get how to turn my brain off...

Puts me off sharing my own interests cos whenever I do that I get ignored.


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09 Mar 2021, 5:28 pm

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Actually I agree with the OP about the drinking, but that's usually common in a lot of younger NTs. When a lot of NTs get towards their 30s they start to realise that there's more better things to do with their lives than partying and getting drunk. Those that carry on living such a wasteful lifestyle might be the types of NTs the OP is talking about.
That's why I've always got on with older people, people who have passed the stage that has the "partying and getting drunk is the be all and end all!" attitude.
My dad is a perfect example of this. He used to drink a lot, and although his stereotypical NT obsession with football remains, he has been drinking less as he's gotten older and has taken an interest in gardening - something he never used to be interested in 25 years ago.


Yeah.

In the people I'm talking about, it doesn't stop.

It's boring.

And my stepdad drinks loads and he's in his 70s. He brags about how he doesn't have hangovers anymore cos his body is used to a high level of alcohol intake.

My stepdad is different to those kinds of people though cos he has actual hobbies outside of that. He used to do cricket and watches every sport going. He knows how to talk about things like books. He likes art history. He's a rounded, 3 dimensional person.


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09 Mar 2021, 5:29 pm

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NTs are more boring on average but the large majority of interesting people are still NTs. You're complaining about a specific personality type that's uncommon in autistic people. It's not that they lack interests; they're only interested in socializing and in things that its easy to socialize about, like sports or relationships. Most NTs are somewhere in the middle between what you're complaining about and the scholar and artist types.


Yeah...

Do those kinds of people realise they're boring?

I don't mind them - as in have a genuine problem with them - until they start making fun of others for being different to that.


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09 Mar 2021, 7:01 pm

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Do those kinds of people realise they're boring?


Probably not. I'm boring to a lot of people but I don't feel I'm boring. I assume some people think I'm boring, because of the amount of social rejections I have experienced in the past. Actually a girl at school said to me "we don't want to be your friend because you've only got one sibling while we have multiple siblings." I knew she meant that I was boring just because I lived in a less hectic household. Maybe she was right though. But it's still no reason to reject me, as I couldn't help not having more siblings.

But some autistics can be boring too. No offense but I couldn't go about with an autistic who is excessively obsessed with trains. But they would only be boring to me, so it doesn't mean they're a boring person otherwise.


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09 Mar 2021, 7:09 pm

I've met some typical people who are quite interesting. A lot of them had interesting stories to tell me.


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09 Mar 2021, 7:13 pm

It's a mix I think...

If an autistic person has the ability not to be a monotone stereotype and to be a logical thinking stereotype, they're fascinating when they get into their specialist interests.

Even things I would never normally get interested in. They show why it's interesting. Most things are interesting once you get to learn about them.

Now the boring thing about autistic people can be the monotone voice. If someone talks like that, their brain is interesting but they should really turn to writing because they have a 'good voice for a newspaper'...

Even aspies who don't fit the logical thinking stereotype, they're interesting just annoying. It's interesting when (close in believability to some stuff I've come across but not based on real life) someone thinks he's a real life magician who can fly unaided. Just, y'know, he's wrong and needs to start writing fantasy instead of being deluded...

I think part of my problem is feeling like I need to be friends with every nice person I come across. I couldn't do what those girls did to you. Even when someone goes against my values I find it hard to reject them.


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09 Mar 2021, 11:06 pm

KT67 wrote:

And in case you mean getting drunk...

This is an area I am superior to them in. Humans are their brains. People who choose to kill off their braincells are idiots.



Pretty harsh, would you include me in this? I consume alcohol and marijuana. I have a drink with dinner, and I have about 300mg THC over the course of a year. I'll save you the stoner math and tell you that it's not much. I'm aware of the risks. I drink either socially or because I like the taste of some drinks. And I like being high occasionally. I'm not sure that makes me an idiot. Hell, I wouldn't call people with severe substance abuse issues "idiots" either, it's more of a medical/psychological problem, not a character flaw.

As for OP, I don't think they know they're boring, because they're not boring. I love movies and spend time watching historically important films, studying, analyzing movies and discussing them. Two of my coworkers think movies are "boring". Am I the boring one for liking a boring thing? Or are they boring because they're not interested in the super cool movies that I am? Neither of us are boring, we just like different things.



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10 Mar 2021, 4:03 am

KT67: Have you considered the possibility that many of these "boring" NTs might actually have lots of interests, but they're very careful of who they reveal them to because they're afraid of being judged?

Joe90 wrote:
Funnily enough, I work with all guys and they hardly ever talk about sports. What they talk about the most is cars and driving. Or they talk about their families. Or anything really. But hardly ever sports.

I think it is just a stereotype, a bit like Aspies liking math is a stereotype.


I didn't mean men when I talked about liking sports. The worst bench sport junkies I know are all women, my older sister taking the number one spot with my younger sister being a close second. My mom watches it a lot too, way more than my dad.
Then again, there's a chance that the guys I know don't talk about sports with me because they think I wouldn't get it 'cause I'm a woman. Unnecessary stereotype, but in my case, it hits home. Not 'cause I'm a woman, though.