You're crazy. You don't have AS!

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SSRI's are anti depressants like prozac and wellburtin (I think. . .)

I was dx'ed with ADD of the inattentive sort in middle school. Before that my parents and teachers suspected a learning disorder due to the fact I couldn't remember the alphabet or the months. After being dx'ed with ADD they pretty much accepted it and let the path lay fallow.

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Hmmmmm? Did you get diagnosed with something??
perhaps later diagnoses?

Ghosthunter:

I was just wondering why someone would even think of making this topic. Doubting Asperger's is a liitle out there.

Hmmmm? What's the difference, besides terminology?



So when did you get officially diagnosed?
What other mis-diagnoses did you get?

Fascinating! A obvious autism clue! hmmmmm?



I will slightly disagree. Obsessive need for acceptance
is a later sign of the autistic person sometimes.
I didn't say everyone, but a good percentage!

Overcompensation with something familiar
and contact can be Autism, I didn't say AS
neither! This is just a opinion, so I hope
I didn't offend you!



Another Autism clue? I this a frequent behaviour
at that age for diagnoses, regarding his dealing
with emotions and communications with others?

Hi! Glasskitten! Can you elaborate you specific
autistic traits?

What happened to you regarding the Psyche
system, My HFA Sister?/Brother?



I don't understand the context?



Explain these "deep-seated" problem?



Ignorance and blissfulness=ostrichitis! Hmmmm!



Hmmmmm? Confused they-be HFA-Jedi-inkind!

Hmmmm-Unnnnn-Hmmmmm,
Yoda-Ghosthunter!

From what I can tell by reading books I could have ADD, SDI, AS, PDD, BPD, OCD, and quite few other letters of the alphabet!

WTF!?



So many of the current DSM symptoms overlap I'm not sure if any could make a true diagnosis.

Untill neuroscience advances to the point where they can actually test and have real non-subjective results were at the mercy of EDUCATED OPINIONS......and you know what they say about opinions.

Talking of DSM, I note that although psychologytoday lists 'autism' it doesn't mention AS, which seems to be quite a serious omission.

I hear somwhere that there were plans in progress to update the DSM so that it more accurately reflected the current state of knowledge/opinion in the neuropsychiatric field. Does anyone know anything about this?

I think by the time it gets to stores it will already be obsolete.

Oooh! But do tell! learning new things about
each other on this site is one of the many good
things about it!



Perhaps you can elaborate the other sites
view?


Huh??????




Are you a doctor, or something in that field. If so,
can you give your perspective clinically of Autism
Spectrum Disorder(AS, HFA, ASD, PDD-NOS)?



What corrolating facts can you say about yourself
and your place in ASD food-chain(self-DX)?



Hmmmmm?
What is it you exactly do?
What is it you do not do?
Under what circumstances do you do it?




I agree a DX is like a string, submitting to someones opinion!
This is how I am reading part of this!

How long were you in either a psych-ward patient, or observer
status?



Hmmmmm?

Hmmmmm? I like how this sounds! What made
specifically more special than other candidates
for AS dx'ing? how old are you now?

My personal philosophy exactly.
Let them continue to consider me that "gifted introvert."

I will publish the URL when I have tidied up other entries on it, and throw it back open to public viewing.



This site contains posts of people who have been on the receiving end of uncooperative and unhelpful medical health professionals, as has xmission and other ASD/AS/PDD-NOS related web sites.



When somebody goes to the profession saying that they want a diagnosis for something like AS/ASD, the people working in the field are likely to be sceptical of the motives of the person seeking such diagnosis. There is every chance that the motives of the person wanting the diagnosis will be considered extremely critically and the consulting professionals may very well think that the person (who in all probability has entirely legitimate concerns), might be 'up to something'. That is perhaps just the cynicism of some elements of the medical establishment in regard to those who might want to use its services. I am not saying this is <i>always</i> the case, merely that the difficulty with which people are taken seriously seems to indicate that.



No I am no doctor but I have read a fair amount about these things and I have reasonably clear and reliable recollections of my own life experienes. I can certainly relate to many - though by no means all - of the things that numbers of people have been writing about on the forums.

My reasons for hesitancy are that although I am reasonably sure that in regard to myself, there is an extremely high corellation between many things people are saying and my own life experiences, I am not sure if I am prepared to suspend my critical faculties sufficiently to give myself a 'self-diagnosis'. Whatever the perceived shortcomings of 'educated opinion' may be, in the absence of such an opinion forthcoming, I must for the time being, refrain from making a definite opinion.



There are probably too many to list, quite literally, in this posting here (which is already quite long), but they do correlate on online tests (which I know, are merely informational and not even remotely diagnostic), anecdotal evidence from people who have shared their experiences on the message boards and finally, from my own 'joining up the dots' in relating these things to my own life experiences. For example, I am strongly inclined to accept that various periodic, repeititve activities I undertake from time to time rather than merely being my way of relieving stress, could in fact bear some resemblence to what has been called 'stimming' in some quarters. I can also very strongly identify with the state of play regarding social interactions with others, the experiences in the workplace that many people have shared on these boards, as well as on others. The isolation and sense of alienation I have experienced at the various special and mainstream schools tallies with other people's experiences too. I can also confirm that Much of this was far more intense when I was a child and/or adolescent.



I think I have covered those points above, if you want further clarification then please ask. However, briefly to reiterate: Lack of social cohesion, a turbulent early childhood (back in the late 1960's and early 1970's), leading to much intervention by developmental psychologists, removal from mainstream schooling, irrational eruptions of temper tantrums, peculiar 'obsessions' - from inanimate objects when I was very young, to - around the age of 11 onwards, books I was reading eg Lord of The Rings, Ideas and areas of knowledge such as The Paranormal, Computers, Sci-Fi, Cats and various other things, plus the need to interject and monopolise conversations, often failing to conduct the usual 'to-ing and fro-ing' that conventionally structured conversations generally consist of.

Tensing up when stressed, or when happy, facial contortions (I know, it sounds really odd and it is the first time I have ever really relayed it to someone in a very long time), other odd physical activities, etc.



I was put into the psychatric adolescent unit in the summer of 1979 (yes, I know pre-internet, pre SG1, pre many things that we take for granted now {smile}), which was a kind of role-play acting drama type scenario, with a talking cure that owes much to the methods of the Spanish Inquisition or Guantanamo Bay. This coercive regime was underscored by the threat of Largactyl Sedation for those who uttered any words which were not entirely in accord with those of the Duty psychiatric Nurse or the Group Leader.

The detention in the hospital (which was a truly frightening experience), objectively lasted for around 4 months, but seemed to go on far longer. As I have mentioned previously, I then went to a far more 'congenial' establishment, though that was not without mishap and misadventure. As an aside, there was a documentary about the psychiatric hostpital filmed and broadcast later that year. Predictably enough, the testimonies and accounts of the patients/residents were discredited by the psychiatric personnel, since (at that time certainly), it is so easy to do that to people who fall under the umbrella of 'mental health'. I'm sure things are probably different today, for one thing politically motivated policy initiatives have done away with the monolithic Victorian establishments, for a far cheaper (though not necessarily cost-effective), 'care in the community' approach.



Hmmmmm?

My question there is have other people - perhaps my age, perhaps younger - been put through the 'talking cure' psychotherapeutic regime, with their physical manifestations 'stimming'?, emotional outbursts etc, put down to 'acting out'?

Finally, I am sorry if I have sent everyone to sleep - I hope you have the power saving features on your PC's set up and running {grin}.

I'm female.

I was institutionalized in one form or another for a few years. Mostly in the nineties. I won't go into specifics at the moment beyond that there was psychological and physical torture going on and it was bad.



I was told that I could not be autistic, after I was already diagnosed with autism, is what I meant.



I can't, because there weren't any. And he didn't specify what he thought they were.



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True as far as anyone can tell.



I don't remember. I think I had one misdiagnosis of narcolepsy (I think that was several other things combined such as fatigue and starvation (or something close to it) and a lack of circadian rhythms and a motor control problem that looked a lot like narcolepsy if you combined them), and then something else I can't remember.

Something significant is that every time I have been told that a condition I am experiencing physically is not real, the doctors have been proven wrong. Either I respond very well to treatment for that thing, or I test as having that thing if there are tests for it. However, something made this doctor like many others assume that I was not experiencing what I was experiencing. They make things more complicated than they are.



I think more than usual of us have migraines, and up to 25% of us can have seizures at some point during our lives, although I don't know how many have seizures.



Exactly. Goes along with how autistic people are so frequently bullied, or thrown into institutions, or other things that create problems.

Prozac and Anafranil (Clomipramine) are SSRIs, Welbutrin is an anrideressant, but is not an SSRI. It supplies Dopamine to the brain.