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13 Aug 2021, 10:23 am

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Autism can't be "cured" but problematic symptoms can be managed, accommodated or sometimes overcome.
Keeping physical and mental health in possibly good state helps a lot.


Tell that to the couple hundred kids cured in one study that involved re-assessing them after 2 years to confirm they're still off the spectrum/subclinical traits. It can be done and already has been.

Hell, I did it for an infant. 100% signs/traits of ASD, parents listened to me and over the course of several weeks he sprung back to neurotypical life and is now a totally normal 9 year old instead of living a life of ASD hell. True story.


You a doctor? Do you even have a formal autism diagnosis? I would wager 10000 USD the answer to both is no.

Does any of this do anything to classic non verbal presentations? Again I'd wager no.


Not yet, check back in a decade - that's the goal. Also, I've been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am not a Medical Doctor and have never claimed to be. I've Also been 100% completely transparent about the fact that I am self diagnosed, but 100% certain of my diagnosis - unless every single ASD textbook is wrong. (which they are not.)

No need to wager your money nor even ask me for the 8728934279837th time, all of that information is readily available over and over again on the forums over the last 9 years of my being completely transparent with what I've learned and done and the results of the treatment protocol I've followed and the positive impact it's had on my entire life. Career, finances, ASD/ADHD/dyspraxia/depression/anxiety/executive function etc overall health and well being, social life etc - in every way I've been living a 2nd life for the last ~9 years and counting, and along the way researchers have caught up and published medical studies pinpointing exactly what I've been sharing here openly with those it could Also help.

You'll Also find a post history of my discussions with the most skeptical naysayer on this forum where I offered to go knock on the door of every ASD professional in my city until I found one who would observe my behaviour that I could Show how I revert my symptoms from nearly neurotypical Jekyl to very ASD Hyde, but, he was never interested in actual proof of my claims - only in arguing with me and calling me a liar. *shrug* Oh well, whatever.

As for lack of an official diagnosis - I didn't want one. I didn't want a "disabled," label. I didn't want it to ever hinder me from anything - any education or government job. I Also didn't want to "give up," accept a diagnosis and defeat, collect disability payments and never function in life. Instead I was relentlessly defiant and refused to give up, read and learned and did until I figured out what to Do about it - and did it. I knew 9 years ago that my symptoms were off the charts, and that they weren't always that bad; that if Something could make them worse, then Something could make them better - I just had to figure out what it was.. and utilizing the problem solving techniques I learned in business school, I did exactly that and here I am today - nearly a decade on the right side of my bankruptcy, with a career, a brand new car paid for, classic motorcycle paid for, no debt and tens of thousands of dollars in liquid cash to save and invest towards my goals of returning to University until someone let's me into medical school and I accomplish that goal, too.

I'm not, and have never been, non verbal - so I can't speak to that. I don't recall reading anything at all in the studies published a few years ago or so now about any non verbal individuals nor results on that particular trait.

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Here's who my avatar is and why: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis

People didn't believe him either, but he most certainly wasn't fabricating anything - just the same as I am not. *shrug* Live your life however you see fit, but I'm tellin' ya.. treated ASD 2nd life is infinitely better than the never ending hell of spinning one's wheels in full blown ASD frustration of Knowing you're intelligent enough to do things, but being unable to get any traction in any aspect of life. I made my choice 9 years ago and will never Ever go back - only forward, and possibly with a more permanent solution than the constant maintenance I do IF it works in myself as an adult as it has in hundreds of children. I'll only find out once I give it a go.


Sure you will be a MD in ten years SURE. Just getting in to Med school is an endurance trial requiring a fortune. The application fee for most schools can be up to 500 USD. Some students take out loans just to finance the ap process.

A self diagnosis ain't worth diddly. If you are going with that you should be the pope of the church of bs with a tin foil miter on your head.


Might take that long, might not. I only Need 3 full time years of science prerequisites, a high score on the MCAT, and volunteer time/community service. Then medical school doesn't last for 7 years. The rough guess of a decade is because I'll continue working, saving, and investing while attending part time classes at first before I can make the leap to full time student part time work.

$500 is sweet F all in goldfish's 2nd life, so I'm not concerned with being able to afford that. At all. It's the paying for life, tuition, transportation etc while not being able to have a full time+ income as a student that's expensive. I'm blessed to have a supportive family with the resources to help out a little via cheap rent and such.

I'm not interested in becoming pope - have at 'er if that's your bag. 8)



I get it. You're not a doctor but you will play one on the internet. If you are OK with self diagnosis then you should never ever be given a medical license.

You strike me as a new age type who probably thinks most of modern medicine is just a money making scam anyway so what's your real game?


1. I've never claimed to be a doctor irl or on the internet. I've been 100% consistent and transparent for 9+ years stating only the facts: I figured out the cause of my symptoms and how to treat them and believe this can help others. More recent medical studies confirm this.

2. People don't need formal diagnoses from some other human to know things. Simple fact. I don't need some other human to tell me my gender or sexual orientation, when I've got a sunburn, an abrasion, flu symptoms, depression, anxiety, executive functioning issues or my ASD symptoms are high. As most people are, I'm quite self aware.

What game/scam? I've asked for nothing, ever. I've shared what I learned freely and suggested people support their local farmers markets and health food stores in buying the ingredients they need to heal themselves via diet/supplements etc. There is no game.

Pharmaceutical companies are profiteers, yes. That's pretty much universally accepted. As for doctors, a friend who's attended medical school tells me about half are there for the money, about half are there because their parents are making them, and 1% or so want to be doctors and those are the ones who make it. I suppose I fit the third category: Self actualization of a goal + be of the highest and best use to society in an altruistic career move. Don't care if I ever make a Million dollars or whatever, my lifestyle won't change much at all and excess money earned will be given away to worthy causes.


https://youtu.be/s4-wJ3zmlXQ

I really enjoyed this. Charlie and Peter are both probable Aspies and Lucy a pretend doctor.



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14 Aug 2021, 4:45 pm

https://youtu.be/ybPgmjTRvMo

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14 Aug 2021, 5:07 pm

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I've shared what I learned freely and suggested people support their local farmers markets and health food stores in buying the ingredients they need to heal themselves via diet/supplements etc. There is no game.


Are you fully-cured, or do you have to maintain this dietary/supplemental regiment for life?

Any links to your more pertinent threads from the last 9 years that you can post in this thread?

And how did you know when it was working? What was it like to feel neurotypical for the first time and what is it you realized you were missing beforehand?



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14 Aug 2021, 5:13 pm

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I've shared what I learned freely and suggested people support their local farmers markets and health food stores in buying the ingredients they need to heal themselves via diet/supplements etc. There is no game.


Are you fully-cured, or do you have to maintain this dietary/supplemental regiment for life?

Any links to your more pertinent threads from the last 9 years that you can post in this thread?

And how did you know when it was working? What was it like to feel neurotypical for the first time and what is it you realized you were missing beforehand?


I'm betting it's the anti casein anti gluten diet that these types think cures everything not just autism.

I doubt very much he is actually on the spectrum just a lazy jackwagon who blames autism for his failures. You note that nine years after his cure he still lives at home and isn't a doctor.



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14 Aug 2021, 6:12 pm

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I've shared what I learned freely and suggested people support their local farmers markets and health food stores in buying the ingredients they need to heal themselves via diet/supplements etc. There is no game.


Are you fully-cured, or do you have to maintain this dietary/supplemental regiment for life?


No; so far I do have to maintain a restricted diet & maintenance protocol - however - it's MUCH more relaxed than the nearly purely medicinal diet regiment I put myself on for the first several months. As I've shared before, it May be possible for an adult to be more permanently cured like has been proven in children since I hypothesized it could be done via FMT. I've simply yet to try it for myself. Really, I should just prioritize it in my life and find out of it works. I already have a bacterial donor in mind. Based on a few Google searches, the process would cost me about $2000 to try - certainly not an expense I could have easily absorbed 9 years ago, or even dreamt of affording, but one that I can very easily pay for in cash today. I'm not wealthy, but I emphasize my ability to work, function in life, save money etc because all of these things have changed for the better since I've done these things and I believe they are possible for many others.

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Any links to your more pertinent threads from the last 9 years that you can post in this thread?


I'll pm.

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And how did you know when it was working? What was it like to feel neurotypical for the first time and what is it you realized you were missing beforehand?


You'll read some of that in my pm. Other than that, it's pretty simple self awareness stuff.. is my depression lifted? Audio sensitivity pretty much gone? Sky high anxiety levels down? Social awareness and functioning improved? Executive functioning/memory improved? Are my fine motor skills & dyspraxia symptoms improved? etc.

It's been 9 years since I first did this stuff. I don't recall a light-switch flip moment of "Oh wow, so this is what it's like to have a more properly functioning nervous system!" Changes I made were one after the other, with incremental improvements.

Today it's similar, but I don't have the functioning lows I once had - not nearly. If I eat things I know I shouldn't, I know damned well they're going to affect my various symptoms... including the symptom of not being self aware of symptoms - my nervous system will simply not function properly and I can expect more autistic traits, worse focus/productivity etc. So, I know if I have certain tasks to do in work and life not to eat certain things.. and that if I do, I can expect worsening symptoms, and I know that within 24-48 hours I'll be doing an "intestinal oil change," to right things again. My current diet is closer to a "normal," diet than ever - which is a little bit problematic for symptoms and general health, but not the end of the world as it's manageable And the hard work and discipline I had within the first couple years healed things up well so I'm not nearly as susceptible to the affects of certain foods anymore. They're still problematic, though, and I still have to do regular maintenance to keep myself functioning very highly so I can interact with the NT world reasonably well - maybe not perfectly all the time, but reasonably well. It's a bit like "the frog in boiling water," in the sense that as my diet slips and time passes, symptoms creep up a bit.. until the point that I get frustrated with something, might yell at someone for doing something stupid - and then I realize I lost my cool and that the Reason I'm susceptible to doing that is that I've slipped up on my diet/maintenance.. I'll correct that asap and be back to being cool as a cucumber. Others may think I'm bipolar or something and was off my meds and then back on lithium again :lol: as typically within 24-48h of behaving at my worst, I'm back to being at nearly my best. Such is life until I attempt the potentially more permanent cure of FMT and see if it works in a nearly 39 year old me - it might.


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14 Aug 2021, 6:18 pm

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goldfish21 wrote:
I've shared what I learned freely and suggested people support their local farmers markets and health food stores in buying the ingredients they need to heal themselves via diet/supplements etc. There is no game.


Are you fully-cured, or do you have to maintain this dietary/supplemental regiment for life?

Any links to your more pertinent threads from the last 9 years that you can post in this thread?

And how did you know when it was working? What was it like to feel neurotypical for the first time and what is it you realized you were missing beforehand?


I'm betting it's the anti casein anti gluten diet that these types think cures everything not just autism.

I doubt very much he is actually on the spectrum just a lazy jackwagon who blames autism for his failures. You note that nine years after his cure he still lives at home and isn't a doctor.


CFGF diet is a part of it, yes, but there's plenty more.

Mmmhmm, my failures over the last 9 years.. like getting myself a trade, a different job offer at my friend's tech company, buying and paying off a brand new car, buying and paying off a classic motorcycle - which I learned to ride and operate just fine with only one demerit on my final road test.. operating the clutch that has a few different positions the thickness of a playing card apart with the same fingers I had difficulty tying my shoes with 9 years ago, saving tens of thousands of dollars in liquid cash towards goals of returning to University part time & then full time etc, getting physically fit and completing the Tough Mudder in Whistler 5 times and so on, having dozens and dozens of friends and more social invites than I care for, attending dozens of AMAZING parties and enjoying them, having a well above average active sex life.. Oh yes, just because I haven't accomplished all of my life's goals in 9 years I'm a "lazy jackwagon who blames autism for his failures." :roll: :lol:


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14 Aug 2021, 6:28 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
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ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I've shared what I learned freely and suggested people support their local farmers markets and health food stores in buying the ingredients they need to heal themselves via diet/supplements etc. There is no game.


Are you fully-cured, or do you have to maintain this dietary/supplemental regiment for life?

Any links to your more pertinent threads from the last 9 years that you can post in this thread?

And how did you know when it was working? What was it like to feel neurotypical for the first time and what is it you realized you were missing beforehand?


I'm betting it's the anti casein anti gluten diet that these types think cures everything not just autism.

I doubt very much he is actually on the spectrum just a lazy jackwagon who blames autism for his failures. You note that nine years after his cure he still lives at home and isn't a doctor.


CFGF diet is a part of it, yes, but there's plenty more.

Mmmhmm, my failures over the last 9 years.. like getting myself a trade, a different job offer at my friend's tech company, buying and paying off a brand new car, buying and paying off a classic motorcycle - which I learned to ride and operate just fine with only one demerit on my final road test.. operating the clutch that has a few different positions the thickness of a playing card apart with the same fingers I had difficulty tying my shoes with 9 years ago, saving tens of thousands of dollars in liquid cash towards goals of returning to University part time & then full time etc, getting physically fit and completing the Tough Mudder in Whistler 5 times and so on, having dozens and dozens of friends and more social invites than I care for, attending dozens of AMAZING parties and enjoying them, having a well above average active sex life.. Oh yes, just because I haven't accomplished all of my life's goals in 9 years I'm a "lazy jackwagon who blames autism for his failures." :roll: :lol:


I have a good job, car, and wife. Money saved. I never went through a bankruptcy or period of near homelessness that I blamed on autism. Was never interested in promiscuous sex. It's dangerous and I'd rather be having it with someone I love and care for. And I don't even want a motorcycle. I hate parties. My wife is also on the spectrum and we are very happy together. She has lasting psychological damage because of how so called empathic normals treated her in her childhood and she is so happy to have someone like me who understands her. We do not want to have children of our own because we do NOT want neurotypical children. Even though autism is clearly genetic and we would likely have children on the spectrum there is that chance.



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Ok, so your symptoms and experience with autism has been different than mine and you have different goals in life. So what? :? :chin:


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Ok, so your symptoms and experience with autism has been different than mine and you have different goals in life. So what? :? :chin:


My only negative experiences have been mean things done by so called empathic normals. And like I said you seem to blame your failings on autism, a condition for which you lack a diagnosis. Were you the quiet kid in class who people hated because he thought football was a sad and terrible waste of time and money? I doubt it.



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Ok, so your symptoms and experience with autism has been different than mine and you have different goals in life. So what? :? :chin:


My only negative experiences have been mean things done by so called empathic normals. And like I said you seem to blame your failings on autism, a condition for which you lack a diagnosis. Were you the quiet kid in class who people hated because he thought football was a sad and terrible waste of time and money? I doubt it.


As someone else has recently used the phrase, "Autism is an explanation, not an excuse." The more I learned about ASD the more I realized that my difficulties in achieving what I wanted were caused by ASD, not my failings or lack of trying etc. If you can wrap your mind around that, wonderful. If not, *shrug*, doesn't affect me one iota. 8)

I was not the quiet kid in class and where I live no one gives a flying s**t about football except for those who played on the high school team and maybe their parents. (My next door neighbour got a football scholarship just before covid started - their household cares.) It's not an extremely popular sport here, and high school teams/leagues exist but aren't a big deal. The team goes to games and maybe 3 spectators. There are local community leagues, but again, no big deal. Hockey and Soccer are FAR more popular. Probably volleyball even. So, you're correct, I wasn't ostracized for not caring about football - because almost no one cares about football. I didn't care about any other team sports, either, and still don't, and it's never affected my social life one bit. Gooooo sports teams!


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Ok, so your symptoms and experience with autism has been different than mine and you have different goals in life. So what? :? :chin:


My only negative experiences have been mean things done by so called empathic normals. And like I said you seem to blame your failings on autism, a condition for which you lack a diagnosis. Were you the quiet kid in class who people hated because he thought football was a sad and terrible waste of time and money? I doubt it.


As someone else has recently used the phrase, "Autism is an explanation, not an excuse." The more I learned about ASD the more I realized that my difficulties in achieving what I wanted were caused by ASD, not my failings or lack of trying etc. If you can wrap your mind around that, wonderful. If not, *shrug*, doesn't affect me one iota. 8)

I was not the quiet kid in class and where I live no one gives a flying s**t about football except for those who played on the high school team and maybe their parents. (My next door neighbour got a football scholarship just before covid started - their household cares.) It's not an extremely popular sport here, and high school teams/leagues exist but aren't a big deal. The team goes to games and maybe 3 spectators. There are local community leagues, but again, no big deal. Hockey and Soccer are FAR more popular. Probably volleyball even. So, you're correct, I wasn't ostracized for not caring about football - because almost no one cares about football. I didn't care about any other team sports, either, and still don't, and it's never affected my social life one bit. Gooooo sports teams!


You over analysed that and I'm sure you knew what I really meant.

Autism is not an explanation for failure. People on the low functioning end of the spectrum have done just fine in life.



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Oh and no doctor or actual scientist would be interested in testing you or looking at your "findings". You have a sample size of one so this wasn't a controlled or statistically meaningful study to start. Since you had no autism diagnosis to start with your results are meaningless with regard to the condition. Other explanations like you were never really on the spectrum and this is all psychological or placebo are highly plausable. I mean seriously you want to be a doctor but you have no clue how science is done.



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Oh and no doctor or actual scientist would be interested in testing you or looking at your "findings". You have a sample size of one so this wasn't a controlled or statistically meaningful study to start. Since you had no autism diagnosis to start with your results are meaningless with regard to the condition. Other explanations like you were never really on the spectrum and this is all psychological or placebo are highly plausable. I mean seriously you want to be a doctor but you have no clue how science is done.



Mmhmm, so my email conversation with Dr. Stephanie Seneff (computer science researcher/autism researcher) was a figment of my imagination. My conversations with my GP - same thing. Must be 3 for 3 with the ND I've discussed these things in a bit more depth with.

What is the point of your responses to my posts? What value do they bring to the conversation? I've been sharing the exact same thing, consistently, for ~9 years - because it's true and more recent medical studies confirm it - but you're still free to say "I don't believe you," and then exit stage left instead of cluttering up threads with the same ol' same ol' "I don't believe you despite medical studies saying exactly the same as you have for the last 9 years."

Hmm, yes.. I figured out the cause of my ASD symptoms and how to treat and manage them and I have no idea how science is done.. yes, must be that.


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Oh and no doctor or actual scientist would be interested in testing you or looking at your "findings". You have a sample size of one so this wasn't a controlled or statistically meaningful study to start. Since you had no autism diagnosis to start with your results are meaningless with regard to the condition. Other explanations like you were never really on the spectrum and this is all psychological or placebo are highly plausable. I mean seriously you want to be a doctor but you have no clue how science is done.



Mmhmm, so my email conversation with Dr. Stephanie Seneff (computer science researcher/autism researcher) was a figment of my imagination. My conversations with my GP - same thing. Must be 3 for 3 with the ND I've discussed these things in a bit more depth with.

What is the point of your responses to my posts? What value do they bring to the conversation? I've been sharing the exact same thing, consistently, for ~9 years - because it's true and more recent medical studies confirm it - but you're still free to say "I don't believe you," and then exit stage left instead of cluttering up threads with the same ol' same ol' "I don't believe you despite medical studies saying exactly the same as you have for the last 9 years."

Hmm, yes.. I figured out the cause of my ASD symptoms and how to treat and manage them and I have no idea how science is done.. yes, must be that.


I think you should be banned for dispensing medical advise without a license or degree.



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Oh and no doctor or actual scientist would be interested in testing you or looking at your "findings". You have a sample size of one so this wasn't a controlled or statistically meaningful study to start. Since you had no autism diagnosis to start with your results are meaningless with regard to the condition. Other explanations like you were never really on the spectrum and this is all psychological or placebo are highly plausable. I mean seriously you want to be a doctor but you have no clue how science is done.



Mmhmm, so my email conversation with Dr. Stephanie Seneff (computer science researcher/autism researcher) was a figment of my imagination. My conversations with my GP - same thing. Must be 3 for 3 with the ND I've discussed these things in a bit more depth with.

What is the point of your responses to my posts? What value do they bring to the conversation? I've been sharing the exact same thing, consistently, for ~9 years - because it's true and more recent medical studies confirm it - but you're still free to say "I don't believe you," and then exit stage left instead of cluttering up threads with the same ol' same ol' "I don't believe you despite medical studies saying exactly the same as you have for the last 9 years."

Hmm, yes.. I figured out the cause of my ASD symptoms and how to treat and manage them and I have no idea how science is done.. yes, must be that.


I think you should be banned for dispensing medical advise without a license or degree.


You can think whatever you want. I've never claimed to be a doctor, in fact, I've fully disclosed consistently for 9+ years that I am not a Medical Doctor and that I am simply sharing what I have learned and done that works for me and that I believe I am far from the only one it can help. Since Doctors and ASD researchers have begun to catch up to what I've learned, I also now defer to their expertise and share links to the studies they've done that pinpoint exactly what I've been sharing. I'm sure this helps those who suffer from the symptom/trait of only accepting information from credentialed sources.


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Axeman wrote:
Oh and no doctor or actual scientist would be interested in testing you or looking at your "findings". You have a sample size of one so this wasn't a controlled or statistically meaningful study to start. Since you had no autism diagnosis to start with your results are meaningless with regard to the condition. Other explanations like you were never really on the spectrum and this is all psychological or placebo are highly plausable. I mean seriously you want to be a doctor but you have no clue how science is done.



Mmhmm, so my email conversation with Dr. Stephanie Seneff (computer science researcher/autism researcher) was a figment of my imagination. My conversations with my GP - same thing. Must be 3 for 3 with the ND I've discussed these things in a bit more depth with.

What is the point of your responses to my posts? What value do they bring to the conversation? I've been sharing the exact same thing, consistently, for ~9 years - because it's true and more recent medical studies confirm it - but you're still free to say "I don't believe you," and then exit stage left instead of cluttering up threads with the same ol' same ol' "I don't believe you despite medical studies saying exactly the same as you have for the last 9 years."

Hmm, yes.. I figured out the cause of my ASD symptoms and how to treat and manage them and I have no idea how science is done.. yes, must be that.


I think you should be banned for dispensing medical advise without a license or degree.


You can think whatever you want. I've never claimed to be a doctor, in fact, I've fully disclosed consistently for 9+ years that I am not a Medical Doctor and that I am simply sharing what I have learned and done that works for me and that I believe I am far from the only one it can help. Since Doctors and ASD researchers have begun to catch up to what I've learned, I also now defer to their expertise and share links to the studies they've done that pinpoint exactly what I've been sharing. I'm sure this helps those who suffer from the symptom/trait of only accepting information from credentialed sources.


So listening to my doctor instead of some new age internet jackwagon is a trait or symptom of autism. Interesting.