Greta Thunberg
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Greta believes that global warming is going to make the planet essentially uninhabitable, at least for humans. If that's true, then yes, that is a bigger deal than terrorism or economic crises or whatever.
I do think Greta herself is genuine. Everything I have seen from her is consistent with what I have seen from my own autistic child. Children get ideas into their heads and it is very, very hard to dissuade them. In Greta's case I don't think her parents manipulated her; I think they recognized their daughter's passion and decided to support her. Whether they are factually right or wrong, it's good of them to support their daughter. Too bad my kid's obsessive crusade is against dirt.
As for Greta having answers to specific questions, just because she thinks global warming is going to kill us all doesn't mean she knows how to fix it.
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So what would happen if the environmental problems were to get solved? She would lose her nitch. So then maybe she doesn't really want them to be solved, after all.
I'm sure most people who desire to solve problems would love to have the consequences of needing to find the next one.
Imagine not understanding how the climate crisis will only contribute to more violence and economic hardships.
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So what would happen if the environmental problems were to get solved? She would lose her nitch. So then maybe she doesn't really want them to be solved, after all.
I'm sure most people who desire to solve problems would love to have the consequences of needing to find the next one.
Imagine not understanding how the climate crisis will only contribute to more violence and economic hardships.
You been on holidays? It's been hard work holding the fort being the only "woke" WP member
Yeah, but relocating is not nearly as bad as dying. I for one, been relocating every few years for school. And I liked it. Staying in the same place feels boring anyway. I guess others might not agree with my tastes, particularly if they have to sell houses as they do it. But that is not nearly as bad as dying.
So you think that Jews ARE a problem?
You just admitted to being antisemitic!
Before you call me antisemitic let me point out that genetically I am Jewish myself, although I believe in Jesus. I still keep Jewish laws, too: I am Messianic so I go to churches that combine faith in Jesus with Jewish laws.
But, back to your question. You will probably agree that a handful of rich and powerful people are a problem. Now, a lot of those people happen to be Jews. So that logically mean that those Jews are a problem. Notice that I didn't say "all Jews". In particular,
a) I only said the Jews that are super rich. My mom isn't one of them: she is struggling to make a living. So she isn't participating in running the world. And neither are her Jewish friends.
b) Jews are not the only ones in power. UN is quite powerful, yet it includes a lot of Arab nations that are hostile to Israel.
c) Some of the Jewish contributions are actually positive. Think of Einstein and other Jewish Noble prize winners.
Thats why I am saying life is complicated. Saying "Jews are the sole problem" and saying "Jews are not a problem at all" is equally silly.
A lot of ableism in this thread.
It has been noted that she talks endlessly about one subject and that she is awkward when being asked questions. Hyper-focusing on one issue is an autistic trait. Being asked questions is both a multitasking effort and an effort that requires spontaneity. Both of these are troublesome for a lot of autistics. These autistic traits are being used to assume Thunberg is "not the brightest" and thus being fed lines. The assumption that Thunberg is incapable of both coming to the conclusions she did and writing her script based on her own knowledge due to her autistic traits is ableism.
I wasn't assuming those things just because she has Asperger. For example, I wouldn't assume any of those things about the vast majority people on WrongPlanet. I was assuming it because of the way she acts. People on WrongPlanet can write and respond in intelligent way. She can't.
Here is another obvious example. The anger that she shows when she reads her scripts is clearly staged. She doesn't look angry at all when she is about to read them. She looks confused as in "what words am I supposed to start out with". Then, as she looks on her scripts, she has to twist her face to make an angry look to read a sentence. Then her angry look kinda disappears the moment she has to pause to read another sentence. Then she twists her face again to create an angry look to read it.
But remember how she complained how nobody around her cared, not even her parents. So I guess someone who used her were not her parents. So can you be more specific on who was it, and how they did this whole thing under her parents noses?
Its true though that some wealthy+powerful people must be behind it, otherwise how would she even get an access to UN meetings. The question is who, and how was it done behind her parents back?
Her parents are basically handlers- it is true they do not care, does not mean that they have no input. (regardless of what she says- she's not the brightest) Its a complex situation- the best way to understand it would be to think of a child pop star in hollywood....the parents sell the children into this lifestyle (they stand to gain a lot of money and have a rich child)- the child may believe they are passionate about the lifestyle and message because that is all they know. Greta also gets a lot of attention that she would not otherwise which goes to her head. I see it all the time in the news- trot out the autistic child to be the poster child for this or that agenda.
Pretty ironic for someone to talk of virtue signaling and then go onto virtue signal about the environment and "truth to authority" >< what a joke.
But even if her parents are handlers, wouldn't they want to "pretend" to care about environment in order to convince her to play her part? Yet they didn't: since she complained how her parents didn't care, that means that they weren't pretending to care, at least not at some point.
So are you saying that some agency, other than her parents, decided to indoctrinate her, and then her parents took advantage of it after the fact?
Or are you saying it was her parents' idea, but they only reached that idea at some point -- and thats why she was complaining how they didn't care until that point?
Or could it be that them "not caring" was a calculated move: they predicted that this would trigger her anger and make her care even more?
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Greta believes that global warming is going to make the planet essentially uninhabitable, at least for humans. If that's true, then yes, that is a bigger deal than terrorism or economic crises or whatever.
That makes me wonder how she arrived at that belief. I mean, since science doesn't actually predict this, that means that she wasn't actually studying the science. She was just being a stage performer. So why didn't she want to take time to actually study the issue she is allegedly so passionate about?
She also said she talks to people "about science". Yet I haven't seen a single video where she actually discusses science. She just keeps saying the word "science" as a mantra of some kind.
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But if she doesn't know how to fix it, then how can she be angry at others for not fixing it? Maybe they don't know either. The whole premise of her anger is that supposedly they do know, and won't do it. So then why isn't she suggesting specific policies that would limit emissions and stuff?
Imagine not understanding how the climate crisis will only contribute to more violence and economic hardships.
I guess it might contribute, but "contribute" is a key word: it means that it is one of the many factors. But Greta treats it as a sole factor, that's the difference.
How does she know whether they take it seriously or not? She is not a mind reader. All she can do is judge their attitudes by their actions. So then she has to be specific and say what it is she thinks they should have done that they didn't. For example, she could have talked to Trump about backing out of climate agreement. Yet she actually said she won't talk to Trump because "its pointless". And when she talked to others, she never mentioned any specific actions or inactions.
I finally found a video where she could smile and be like a human for once: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWx44kga7gg
So maybe she "was" being used, and that was why she was glad to avoid spotlight for a minute.
How does she know whether they take it seriously or not? She is not a mind reader. All she can do is judge their attitudes by their actions. So then she has to be specific and say what it is she thinks they should have done that they didn't. For example, she could have talked to Trump about backing out of climate agreement. Yet she actually said she won't talk to Trump because "its pointless". And when she talked to others, she never mentioned any specific actions or inactions.
I like this speech much better in this regard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo_-mxvGnq8&t=137s Finally she actually talks about the substance.
In this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAwSfnLehbU they talked about her other interests, around minutes 10 and 11. Thats a nice surprise