Nasty Article in the Daily Mail regarding ASD

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16 Aug 2007, 9:43 am

She refers to "her son" as a monster? Looks like it's the other way around to me.

They should do a follow-up interview with her EX "loving" husband Paul...that might be interesting. :lol:


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16 Aug 2007, 9:45 am

Beenthere wrote:
She refers to "her son" as a monster? Looks like it's the other way around to me.

They should do a follow-up interview with her EX "loving" husband Paul...that might be interesting. :lol:

I agree. I wonder what kind of warm feelings about his ex-wife he would convey... :lol:



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16 Aug 2007, 9:55 am

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I do not find issue within the article itself...it is the title of th article which appalls me, especially as nowhere in that article, that I can see, has that woman called her son a 'monster'. I have posted a comment.

The first two paragraphs are certainly distasteful. Thanks for posting a comment, it seems you have said more or less what needed to be said. I will add one when I sober up a little.


No, that isn't my comment.
Mine was a little more confrontational and abrasive. I doubt it will get through because I criticised the Press, lol.


Grae out of curiosity post what you told them in this forum xD


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16 Aug 2007, 12:21 pm

I submitted a comment:

It seems to me that if Mrs. Greenman hadn't considered her child to be her enemy from the moment he began having issues she could have been better equipped to find solutions rather than having to resort to demonizing the child and immersing herself in the "normal" sibling.

Its a common misconception that autistic people have no empathy. The truth is that they simply are incapable of adequately expressing it. Her child isn't stupid and can see the favoritism she shows towards the sister and he can sense her hostility towards him. Is it any wonder such feelings were returned in kind and served to build his frustration and depression to unmanageable levels?

Who's the real victim?

But its doubtful they will allow it to be posted. Am I the only one who finds censorship on a press site a bit ironic?


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16 Aug 2007, 1:05 pm

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But its doubtful they will allow it to be posted. Am I the only one who finds censorship on a press site a bit ironic?

No, you're definitely not the only one. I also submitted a comment, and it hasn't been published on their website either. It was a civilized comment, no abusive language, all very decent, just like yours. Censorship on a press site is ironic indeed; maybe the Daily Mail should have its name changed to Comrade Mail or something like that... :evil:



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16 Aug 2007, 1:14 pm

Maybe they find it offensive and intimidating when the comments submitted are more eloquent and legible than the main article? Perhaps we should have added some "lawlz" and "dun be dopin up yer keedz!!11oneeleventy" in there.


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16 Aug 2007, 1:29 pm

Well at least one "anti" comment got posted on the page, so they arent completely biased.


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16 Aug 2007, 1:47 pm

I think that's my comment :oops:

I think I used a valid email address, maybe that's why it got approved?


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16 Aug 2007, 2:02 pm

Nice.. totalitarian and email snobs.. what my spam bucket account isn't good enough for your spam? :P


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16 Aug 2007, 2:35 pm

So the ADHD monster did'nt quite fit in with her merchant banker lifestyle. Mmmmmm not a great article I've submitted my response to the Daily Mail, this newspaper being the poison of middle England.



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16 Aug 2007, 2:51 pm

Autism itself is not a monster, but it can be the key that unlocks the caged monster that lies dormant in every man.

The impression that I got from the article is that the mother, despite that glaring signs that her son is not of NT stock, still stubbornly tried to force her son into that particular mold. All of those nasty "monster" behaviors should be expected from a scenario such as this.



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16 Aug 2007, 3:20 pm

The parents probably put effort in, but not enough, and not in the correct manner! If they want to get therapy, then they should have forced for some decent therapy that could work, such as... oh my god!! !... contacting a psychologist who specialises in autism???? Oooh what an idea!! !! ! :o It took them so freaking long to actually think "hm. It might be autism. Let's go and do loads of research and get into contact with experts on autism" etc etc...

When I was diagnosed with AS, my Mum did all the research, i.e. printing stuff off the internet, and my school gave us four different books on it!!


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16 Aug 2007, 3:31 pm

Cultus_Diabolus wrote:
Graelwyn wrote:
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Graelwyn wrote:
I do not find issue within the article itself...it is the title of th article which appalls me, especially as nowhere in that article, that I can see, has that woman called her son a 'monster'. I have posted a comment.

The first two paragraphs are certainly distasteful. Thanks for posting a comment, it seems you have said more or less what needed to be said. I will add one when I sober up a little.


No, that isn't my comment.
Mine was a little more confrontational and abrasive. I doubt it will get through because I criticised the Press, lol.


Grae out of curiosity post what you told them in this forum xD


I didn't save what I put, but it was along the lines of their typically focussing on the negatives and how maybe they should attempt to focus on the positive traits among those with Aspergers. I think I also made some derogatory comment about their small, neurotypical minds :oops: and their using such a title as they did being a disgrace and just an attempt to grab attention.



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16 Aug 2007, 6:01 pm

It's too bad that she was in such denial about the problems that her son had and waited so long to get him any form of help: then ignored the advice offered until she was derperate to try something. She blames him for her marriage difficulty, for her not being able to work, for everything. A loving mother does not scapegoat her child and blame him for everything. This woman was too absorbed in wanting her son to be normal to appreciate the positive things about him, the joy he could have brought into her life.

I suggest a title change for the article, "A Monster Raises a Son With Autism"



I can not even fathom calling my autistic children, "Monsters". That is reprehensible to the extreme.



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16 Aug 2007, 6:33 pm

*NYPD mode* Move along folks, just another NT who's angry her kid doesn't hold up to her narcissistic vision of the "perfect" lifestyle. Nothing to see here.


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16 Aug 2007, 7:34 pm

Most of the time it is not the fault of the reinterviewed person, but the journalist fault because they exaggerate and twist words for the purpose of making a story more exciting and dramatic - that sells papers.

I am quite sure (if this is the case) that his mother, who has just read the article, also feels very angry over it, every bit as much as people here.