Which Autism Subtype Are You? Version 2

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I am definitely 1 (aspie) or 3 (alien), or maybe the one in between, 1/3 (sensitive)

I reckon my daughter is 1 (aspie) or 4 (shaman) or 1/4 (expert). She has lots of repetitive behaviours.

I was thinking that, what if the person has repetitive behaviours AND social impairment, like Fairfield says? I'm not criticising your sterling work, Mrs Peel, but I just wondered.

I really hope these scientists get their a55es into gear and provide us with guidance and description of these 4 subtypes ASAP.

I'm not sure I understand enough to be able to say where I fit. Still, I find this interesting and want to try.

I might fit in 2. I'm not sure if I understand correctly, but if that means you don't speak much and might excel in some ways and fail miserably in others, then yeah, I could fit there. I might fit 3, it's arguable I have obvious social impairments, but it's because I don't seek much actual socialization. I generally dislike it because it's overwhelming and prefer to be alone. I absolutely have sensory issues. As for 4, I do have rrb issues, no doubt, and rigid schedules? Yeah. I function best if my day is exactly the same every day without interruptions. But I don't know about the obsessive interest part. I go back and forth on if I even have special interests, they don't seem so intense, you know? *shrugs* I might be a mix of 2, 3, and 4? I dunno.

For Type 1, what does the low language processing mean? It is it explained in a link or the other thread?

I wasn't sure what Verbal IQ was so I looked it up. I hope this helps:

-Verbal IQ refers to a measure of intelligence that focuses on a person’s ability to understand and use language.
-It is one of the components of overall IQ, a measure of a person’s intellectual ability.
-Verbal IQ is typically assessed through tests that evaluate a person’s vocabulary, comprehension, and ability to reason using words and language.
-A high verbal IQ score suggests that a person has strong language skills and may excel in reading, writing, and verbal communication.
-While verbal IQ is an essential aspect of intelligence, it is just one component, and it does not necessarily predict success in other areas, such as math, science, or social skills.
-Additionally, it’s important to remember that intelligence is not fixed, and with effort and practice, individuals can develop their verbal IQ and overall intellectual abilities over time.

from here: https://getgoally.com/blog/neurodiverso ... l%20skills.

This is not meant to be offensive, it's meant to be funny:

Now I've got a vision of all of us divided into 4 groups, according to Mrs Peel's diagram.

Group 1, High Verbal IQ, will be talking constantly.
Group 2, Low Verbal IQ, will be sitting in silence, probably smiling at each other.
Group 3, Social Impairment, will be insulting each other but nobody notices.
Group 4, Restrictive Repetitive Behaviours, will be constantly moving.

I'm sorry but this idea did make me laugh!

And it's possible I misunderstood what they meant by "social affect".
I took impairments in social affect to mean general social difficulties. But when I look up the meaning of "affect" it's referring to emotions and moods. In which case, I'm really confused - what is a social mood impairment??

Do we have any psychologists here who can interpret this paper a bit better?

OK I just did a little more homework.
In the paper they correlated by ADOS scores and IQ scores.

The ADOS is intended to check for behaviour in the two ASD domains:
a. persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across contexts
b. Restricted, repetitive patterns of behaviour, interests or activities

So I'm inferring that by "social affect impairment" in the paper they are meaning domain a. and RRB is domain b.

More coming...

So if you are a Type 3 "the alien", you would have more severe "qualitative impairments in social interaction", such as:

eye gaze
facial expression
body postures
gestures to regulate social interaction
seeking to share enjoyment, interests or achievements
social or emotional reciprocity

And if you are a Type 4 "the Shaman" you would have more severe "restricted, repetitive behaviours" (RRBs), such as:

encompassing preoccupations
stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest
abnormal in intensity or focus
inflexible adherence to routines/rituals
stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms
persistent preoccupation with parts of objects

If you have both the social impairment and the RRB behaviours, you would most likely by a Type 1 "aspie" or Type 2 "unicorn". Depending on your IQ type.

Mrs Peel, do not beat yourself up. You are doing a fantastic job interpreting this very scientific paper for the rest of us.

I am really getting more and more excited about the discovery of the 4 types. I wonder if people in each group would understand each other better. i.e. people in group 1 would understand each other better than people in the other groups, people in group 2 would understand each other better than people in the other groups etc.

Because you know when they say, 'when you've met one autistic person, you've met one autistic person.' It means we don't all understand each other and there's no common bond. Or not much of one anyway.

I wonder if this 4 group division will help autists understand each other better and feel less isolated, misunderstood and alone.

Yes, that was my motivation in starting this thread. I was thinking it might help us connect with others with similar patterns of traits.