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DuckHairback
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19 Sep 2023, 4:42 pm

I always find it interesting that you can take a pretty mundane sentence or just a phrase and if you set it against the right music it can give the words additional meaning and weight.

I'd like to understand how that works.


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19 Sep 2023, 5:56 pm

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I always find it interesting that you can take a pretty mundane sentence or just a phrase and if you set it against the right music it can give the words additional meaning and weight.

I'd like to understand how that works.


Thats a fascinating subject. Movies depend upon the music bed to make your fav scenes work...many would go flat without the music. Many song lyrics of your fav songs would go flat without the music as well.

Many hit songs have a strange incongruity between lyrics and music.

There was a hit slow Power ballad by Pearl Jam (cant recall the title) in which Eddie Vedder sings in celebration of how he has just now found the love of his life...but his voice sounds regretful, depressed and suicidal.

On the flipside you have the hit song "Island Girl" by Elton John. A happy bouncy hit tune. But if you pay attention to the lyrics you realize that he is telling the tale a Black girl from like Jamaica who emigrates to America in search of a better life, but ends up falling into prostitution. Without the music you would cry.

Similarly Billy Joel's "Piano Man" is a song that everyone THINKS is happy when the lyrics are actually quite grim and depressing.



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19 Sep 2023, 6:47 pm

Music: I probably have perfect pitch.
I'm not sure, also because I don't hear perfectly in both ears, the right not as perfect as the left
So I understand her beyond normal.

On the night you wrote I happened to be passing near where a band was playing.

Their sound was a bit flat.
Until the guitarist started playing.

I approached them, I don't remember who he was: Then only later did I discover that he had played for some good bands. He was a fan of Tom Morello, Zakk Wilde.
It was their last song of the evening.

Usually I "see" music and it's called synesthesia (many autistics have synesthesia, nothing unique in short).
I am alexithymic

However we have emotions, we don't understand them, I write this because many of us are scared of this thing.

I try not to listen to it too much because some songs stick in my mind and
I post a lot here.

A night without sleep.

I had already downloaded 8 hours of songs.

I listened to them all.

Without sounds I couldn't live but I couldn't even type on the computer.

Does music excites me a lot?
I couldn't answer.

I just know that I feel it very intensely.

Here perhaps is an answer.
The music in the shops depends because they usually turn up the volume too much and the people in the shops don't have great musical taste. I appreciate country music. I know classical music quite well, because here at school there are compulsory music and art history lessons. .

For at least three years of school.

Some time ago I wrote some small reviews for radios.

If it weren't for the forum you wouldn't listen to the way you write, voluntarily music.


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19 Sep 2023, 9:55 pm

I can feel very emotional while listening to music. The album that makes me feel the most emotional is The Kinks Arthur and the Decline of The British Empire. There are a lot of tear jerking songs in that album for me. The Great Pretender by The Platters also makes me cry, because it reminds me of my recently deceased friend, Chrissy. That was her favourite song.


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19 Sep 2023, 10:18 pm

You've been musically inclined for as long as I've known you, CockneyRebel. It's one of the things I like about you. :)




I've had an Alice In Chains album (Dirt) for a very long time but it was only recently that I really listened to the lyrics. And they're the most depressing I've ever heard. That's bad for me. I don't think I'll listen to it again.



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20 Sep 2023, 4:12 am

Yes, especially when I was younger. It could be overwhelming sometimes. For example I remember my family mentioning Radiohead while we were eating dinner, and I told them that I couldn't listen to most Radiohead songs because I found the music disturbing, and they didn't understand what I meant. I liked Radiohead, their music just affected me too much.



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20 Sep 2023, 5:43 am

Yes it does , always has.....some are equated to certain emotions mind images and thought, Sometimes could even. bring ruminations of better times ..Always have had a very wide taste in music . From the Blue Danube to Moody Blues music " In your Wildest Dreams" the combination of tones and Lyrics , in some cases. Can almost make me appear , dumbstruck . Even to tears .Steve Millers " Fly like an Eagle" Frequencies used in the closing notes of that song, trigger me ,Others feel as if the can invigorate me.....Still respond to the William Tell Overture , after all these years.( on some kind of intrinsic level).


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22 Sep 2023, 6:55 am

Yes, but don't know how it differs from NT's. I guess it does on some level.

My blubs are always private but will be triggered by:
Allegreto, 7-II, Beethoven (don't know why/how)
Wotan's farewell, Die Valkure, Wagner
Mimi's death, La Boheme, Puccini (more the drama of it than the music perhaps)
and Leonard Cohen, Dusty Sprigfield, Janis Joplin, showing my age, triggering memories.

Music is the communication of emotion via sound, it's doing its job right if it makes you feel.



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22 Sep 2023, 9:48 am

I listen to music when I'm emotional so I can feel it. I don't know why, but feelings just don't work right when I'm not listening to music. It kind of helps me organize my thoughts or feel something else.


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22 Sep 2023, 10:31 am

yes, some guilty gear (fighting game series) lyrical music and touhou (bullet hell series) instrumental music has made me tear up from just how good it is


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22 Sep 2023, 10:53 am

Most music I used to enjoy deeply makes me nauseous these days. Listening to it makes me feel like I am trapped in some kind of MK-Ultra experiment or something (the infamous CIA experiment that, in itself, is an insult to the Code of Nuremberg). Music used to help me with my alexythimia but now it just plainly re-traumatizes me on a constant basis so I listen to the sound of my air conditioned unit instead - boring as f**k but it's still better than the Muzak from hell the "chosen few" dump on the masses they so despise nowadays.


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22 Sep 2023, 11:59 am

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Most music I used to enjoy deeply makes me nauseous these days. Listening to it makes me feel like I am trapped in some kind of MK-Ultra experiment or something (the infamous CIA experiment that, in itself, is an insult to the Code of Nuremberg). Music used to help me with my alexythimia but now it just plainly re-traumatizes me on a constant basis so I listen to the sound of my air conditioned unit instead - boring as f**k but it's still better than the Muzak from hell the "chosen few" dump on the masses they so despise nowadays.


that reminds me a lot of A Clockwork Orange. mayhaps new music would help?


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22 Sep 2023, 12:25 pm

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Mrs.Gone wrote:
Most music I used to enjoy deeply makes me nauseous these days. Listening to it makes me feel like I am trapped in some kind of MK-Ultra experiment or something (the infamous CIA experiment that, in itself, is an insult to the Code of Nuremberg). Music used to help me with my alexythimia but now it just plainly re-traumatizes me on a constant basis so I listen to the sound of my air conditioned unit instead - boring as f**k but it's still better than the Muzak from hell the "chosen few" dump on the masses they so despise nowadays.


that reminds me a lot of A Clockwork Orange. mayhaps new music would help?


It does indeed feel like Clockwork Orange at times! I am not sure new music would help - most of it is conditioned Muzak too. Old music might be the way to go: Mozart, Chopin, Bach... I'll steer clear of Wagner though!


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22 Sep 2023, 12:29 pm

Not in the slightest. I find most music annoying, repetitive, too loud. I very rarely listen to music out of choice, sometimes I have to listen if my family are listening to it. I like quiet, peace, natural sounds like rain, ocean waves, birdsong.


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22 Sep 2023, 11:41 pm

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Not in the slightest. I find most music annoying, repetitive, too loud. I very rarely listen to music out of choice, sometimes I have to listen if my family are listening to it. I like quiet, peace, natural sounds like rain, ocean waves, birdsong.
Most of my family members (sister, late parents) also don't enjoy music. They find it noisy and bothersome, for the most part. There's a book by Oliver Sacks called Musicophilia that describes different people's reactions to music, including people who don't like music at all and others who don't like it very much but enjoy some music.

I find it odd when I see people on the bike path jogging or cycling who are listening to and even broadcasting music. When I'm outside I like to hear the sounds of the outdoors. (It's also unsafe.)



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23 Sep 2023, 3:55 am

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Most of my family members (sister, late parents) also don't enjoy music. They find it noisy and bothersome, for the most part. There's a book by Oliver Sacks called Musicophilia that describes different people's reactions to music, including people who don't like music at all and others who don't like it very much but enjoy some music.

I find it odd when I see people on the bike path jogging or cycling who are listening to and even broadcasting music. When I'm outside I like to hear the sounds of the outdoors. (It's also unsafe.)


Oh I'm glad I'm not the only one who dislikes music! Usually if I say I don't like music, people stare in horror and avoid me forever after :lol: What kind of weirdo dislikes music?

It's just the constant repetitive beat that annoys me, it's like it's banging on my brain over and over and over. Shut up!

Yes I'd never go jogging or cycling while listening to music. I nearly knocked over a cyclist once in my car because he was listening to music and not paying attention to his surroundings. And of course people can attack you easily if you're outside lost in music instead of staying aware of who's around you.


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