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25 Aug 2007, 9:28 am

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Why is it that you think that anyone without Aspergers is "normal"?
That's pretty close-minded.

What about people with ADHD? Non-Verbal learning disorder? (which I have) Clinical Depression?

There are people with much worse off mental disabilities than you.

Also, avoiding the "NT World"? Running away from real life, you mean?

Aspies are no better than "normals". Yes, you have some nice talents, but with those come PROFOUND disabilities. I'm GLAD not to be an aspie.


We have forums about people with ADHD... we have forums about people with clinical depression... we don't think we're the only ones who aren't so called 'normal' and what is normal anyway? I don't think 'Hey you're not an aspie and so you're normal'. Besides, I like people who aren't normal, if there is a definition of the word... people with AS are generally quite empathetic about these sorts of things... so what are you basing your analysis or should I say 'assault' on?

You're making out the disabilities worse than the talents... :? And why are you 'GLAD' not to be an aspie in such a forceful manner? This is actually quite offensive...
Are you saying we're all arrogant and too proud? Isn't this the same with the neurotypes in their 'competitive dog eat dog' world?


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25 Aug 2007, 10:20 am

PoptartQueen wrote:
Why is it that you think that anyone without Aspergers is "normal"?
That's pretty close-minded.


Who cares what you think? :|

What you doing here anyway? f**k off. ;)



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25 Aug 2007, 10:53 am

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I think such comments largely arise out of mutual misunderstanding, and often a sense of resentment for certain NTs who have wronged us- after all, most of us Aspies were outcasts and have been bullied quite a bit.


Everyone gets bullied, some more than others, I think, it's just part of pack behavior. It's best to just shrug it off and pay no mind to them~


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25 Aug 2007, 11:44 am

Go back under your bridge troll you have no power here!



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25 Aug 2007, 12:22 pm

I think that everybody should learn to live together, and that's my final word.



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25 Aug 2007, 12:57 pm

PoptartQueen wrote:
Why is it that you think that anyone without Aspergers is "normal"?
That's pretty close-minded.

What about people with ADHD? Non-Verbal learning disorder? (which I have) Clinical Depression?

There are people with much worse off mental disabilities than you.

Also, avoiding the "NT World"? Running away from real life, you mean?

Aspies are no better than "normals". Yes, you have some nice talents, but with those come PROFOUND disabilities. I'm GLAD not to be an aspie.

not everyone here has aspergers autism-am and others here are kanners autists,some have PDDNOS-and some have a mixture of ASD and ADHD,and many ASDers have experienced depression.

spend more time on here reading what people are really saying first,before judging all wrong planet users.
spend more time learning about aspergers,and might realise that not everyone with it is as high functioning as what person thinks.
it is stupid to compare conditions like have done,there is no better or worse among them,it varies between people and can be mild,in the middle or severe-everyone with any of these conditions is going to have a hard time growing up-it makes no difference of the condition,people with differences should unite,and be strong together not whinge and say they have it harder than everyone else.
the fact is,there is always someone who has it harder than someone else,am used to live in an institutionalised residential home and there were teens and young adults in the respite section who were unable to breathe,walk,eat proper food,had severe mental retardation,screamed as their only way of speaking,needed to be hoisted out of bed
,onto the toilet and could not do much more than lift their heads,that is what being truly profoundly disabled means to am.


it is not fair to say poptartqueen is a troll because they have said something that not everyone likes,it might really be what they think,rather than telling them to go away or calling them nasty things,would it not be better to share some information with them to less the ignorance rather than send them away where they will still not know any better?



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25 Aug 2007, 1:46 pm

Stop feeding the troll.



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25 Aug 2007, 1:51 pm

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Stop feeding the troll.


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25 Aug 2007, 4:08 pm

Ah, if you had written this prettier, you might have had a semi-valid complaint.

PoptartQueen wrote:
Why is it that you think that anyone without Aspergers is "normal"?
That's pretty close-minded.


'I believe the term NT is misleading. It appears that most people on this board refer to anyone not on the spectrum as "nuerotypical", which gives the impression that you believe that AS is the only abnormality.'

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What about people with ADHD? Non-Verbal learning disorder? (which I have) Clinical Depression?


'This is not true. There are several other types of disorders such as (but not limited to) ADHD, NVLD, and depression. They are not typical either.'

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There are people with much worse off mental disabilities than you.


'In fact, AS is not the worst disorder. By referring to everyone else as an "NT" - which has the meaning normal seemingly attached to it in many cases - you are belittling those who live with different abnormalities.'

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Also, avoiding the "NT World"? Running away from real life, you mean?


'While it's hard for many on the spectrum to adjust to the way others live, it is necessary to a certain extent. The majority of people are not AS or otherwise. Forcing them to live like you would like live is not only impractical, it's hypocritical. In order to best utilize your talents, you should try to accept the difference between your worlds and strive to compromise. Being completely unyielding will not get you far.'

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Aspies are no better than "normals". Yes, you have some nice talents, but with those come PROFOUND disabilities.


'There are good and bad in both worlds. Whether people are on the spectrum or not is unimportant. Everyone has unique personalities, with a mixture of pure and evil. Neither group is superior to the other, and it should be remembered that aspies are not perfect. While it is unlikely that anyone fully believes this, the occasional statements blaming (and flaming) NTs for the problems of everything are misleading. Please try to remember that everyone has feelings.'

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I'm GLAD not to be an aspie.


You really can't get a good statement with this.


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26 Aug 2007, 3:42 am

PoptartQueen, you have not been here very long at all. Read more here and you will see that the attitude you have implied is not all over the board. I admit, I have seen anti-NT attacks "kill all NTs" and rubbish like that.

Not all ASDers have talents either.

If you have NVLD, of course you are wlcome here.



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26 Aug 2007, 4:26 am

PoptartQueen wrote:
Why is it that you think that anyone without Aspergers is "normal"?
That's pretty close-minded.

What about people with ADHD? Non-Verbal learning disorder? (which I have) Clinical Depression?

There are people with much worse off mental disabilities than you.

Also, avoiding the "NT World"? Running away from real life, you mean?

Aspies are no better than "normals". Yes, you have some nice talents, but with those come PROFOUND disabilities. I'm GLAD not to be an aspie.


I was diagnosed with AS as a kid, and I find this forum interesting. Period. If I wasn't diagnosed I would be completely unaware of the disorder.
f**k off.



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26 Aug 2007, 9:10 am

renaeden wrote:
PoptartQueen, you have not been here very long at all. Read more here and you will see that the attitude you have implied is not all over the board. I admit, I have seen anti-NT attacks "kill all NTs" and rubbish like that.


Obviously you haven't looked around enough to see that there IS nt-discrimination with some members and there's a number of aspies thinking that we are evolved humans, maybe that gave the impression that they have a superiority complex.


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26 Aug 2007, 1:22 pm

MarieElana wrote:
renaeden wrote:
PoptartQueen, you have not been here very long at all. Read more here and you will see that the attitude you have implied is not all over the board. I admit, I have seen anti-NT attacks "kill all NTs" and rubbish like that.


Obviously you haven't looked around enough to see that there IS nt-discrimination with some members and there's a number of aspies thinking that we are evolved humans, maybe that gave the impression that they have a superiority complex.


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26 Aug 2007, 2:35 pm

I'm just saying that if we didn't have these few judging NTs then maybe they wouldn't be judging us X:


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26 Aug 2007, 3:21 pm

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I'm just saying that if we didn't have these few judging NTs then maybe they wouldn't be judging us X:


They'd still judge us.



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26 Aug 2007, 5:37 pm

Flagg wrote:
MarieElana wrote:
I'm just saying that if we didn't have these few judging NTs then maybe they wouldn't be judging us X:


They'd still judge us.


Tell 'em, Flag.

And Marie Elana, no bad feelings toward you, but you are beginning to drive me a bit nuts. You're trying to act unbiased but it's beginning to be a "reverse reverse" discrimnation thing.