How can some people not see that you have AS?

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31 Aug 2007, 2:38 am

angelene wrote:

sometimes it isn't obvious that you are an aspie. those that i have told at my old job where like "Oh really? Well what does that mean? You seem fine to me."

i do think to myself, god...isn't it obvious????

guess not. Theory of Mind thingee, i suppose.

i know that many ppl do think i am "just very immature". that's all they do see.

If they never heard of AS or don't know anyhthng about it, they're not going to know what to look for.

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31 Aug 2007, 6:03 am

Im decent at faking it. Everyone knows im a bit uneque, and pretty intelligent. But I doubt many i encounter know what AS is, except the collage kids maby down the street, the more well informed. Many I encounter day to day never went to collage so they never took psycology er anything like that.

Those professionals knew what too look for in ya, not the PT. If I was put in front of somone that could notice my specific mannerisms and whatnot they would also see thru me, and probably anybody else. WE will always go unnoticed by the average person. Good enough for me I suppose. Very few ppl in my life know anything.

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31 Aug 2007, 6:39 am

OP: If I could, I'd give you some of my "genuine" autism if you're feeling a little perturbed that you don't appear autistic enough; I'm such a selfless person. (Actually, I have no need for the autistic disorder now; it'd be easier if I downgraded to...at least Asperger's, so I'm really being selfish.)

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31 Aug 2007, 9:42 am

angelene wrote:

SAME! one of my biggest issues with people is the complete disbelief they display when i mention i have a neurological disorder. i think to myself, you're right, i AM fine. i'm really just a self-centered, moronic, ignorant, immature c**t who can't hold a conversation by CHOICE, and i can magically change if i try hard enough.

one of the more problematic issues i have is the fact that i get chatty when i'm scared or nervous. so, i'll end up talking to a person, albeit VERY much incoherently, no matter how redundant, obvious, self-centered, personal interest-related, or long-winded i get >____<. this puts doctors, classmates, and family under the impression that i'm "normal", but maybe just "a -little- awkward".

i'm a decent actress, especially since people started throwing the word "emo" all over the place [i really don't want to be disrespected any more than i already am]. some people "see right through me", but again, they almost always come up with the conclusion that i'm some spoiled idiot that pushes people away.

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01 Sep 2007, 4:29 am

Question was: How is AS not obvious to some people?

One possible answer: Because some people are simply not as good at recognising it.

We cannot ascribe all NTs with this supposed all-seeing super sense, especially regarding a "syndrome" that (still) few NTs have much of an idea about. And something that we can just about hide.

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01 Sep 2007, 9:02 am

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MarieElana wrote:

There's not much to AS to notice, you see? I think in disabilities or disorders people look for some key features, like shaking in tourette's x:

AS does not put us in wheelchairs, it does not make our voices slow(at least not for me), and it does not really stop us from functioning to a normal degree. People are going to care less if you can't socialize because few would assume there's a disorder to being an outcast and an oddball, IMO

Put that puts us at advantage because you don't have to explain to everyone about what problem you have if you don't want to. I really wouldn't want to go to everyone I know and say that I am bad at being social because I have AS because they can't figure it out for themselves. It's a stealthy syndrome x:

aspergers, and autism in general does affect the voice but not always for everyone,it can make it slower,louder,quieter etc and often the person does not know any different unless someone tells them.
sometimes it's sensory related-people might shout because they are hypo sensitive to certain pitches.

Aspergers does have a severe end which never gets talked about on here as much as the most succesful do ,the aspergans who are on the severe end of aspergers,who have poor life skills and sensory problems tend to live in residential or group homes,because they are unable to look after themselves and/or might need watching very often because of severe meltdowns,some aspergans are even unable to speak unless someone has asked them a question first,it's not always the social retardedness for aspergans that is the main problem.
aspergers can be very visible but it depends on whether people really know about aspergers otherwise they end up being classed as mentally ill by the ignorant.

ticker,she probably has a stereotype of what an aspergan acts like,like many ignorant people,and they cannot see anyone who isn't exactly the same as the stereotype as having aspergers,if they had any experience in the autism spectrum they would not be judging it like that.

My voice sounds young, but otherwise is pretty normal. The volume problem could be normal also, and it isn't like I can't conciously control it. Part of the diagnosis in the dsm DOES say that AS people have few problems with self help skills!

Anyway, I DO seem a bit wierd, and even hide aspects of my life so people don't figure I am even wierder but, as wierd as I seem, I still seem normal. I USUALLY keep my voice modulated, USUALLY hold my tongue, usually keep things short, etc... HEY, I never put two and two together! Why should I expect the average person, that only has PART of the puzzle, to figure it out?

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01 Sep 2007, 9:28 am

ping-machine wrote:

Question was: How is AS not obvious to some people?

One possible answer: Because some people are simply not as good at recognising it.

We cannot ascribe all NTs with this supposed all-seeing super sense, especially regarding a "syndrome" that (still) few NTs have much of an idea about. And something that we can just about hide.

If they don't see any symptoms out of you, they won't know. They have to see you more often and be with you more like everyday to see them.

People who don't know much about AS or only know the sterotypes of it and think all aspies are like that, they're not going to see it either because they won't know what to look for.

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01 Sep 2007, 9:47 am

I would say my AS manifests itself in subtle ways, such as absentmindedness and difficulty in performing small tasks (although I do quite well in the big things, such as work and academics. I also read widely and well.) Aside from not driving a car (which I am going to work on) and lack of a dating life, I am doing well. It is easy for people to dismiss the things I don't do well. The problem is, if I am so dumb in small tasks, how can anyone who doesn't know me in my areas of strength believe I have a Master's in English, can perform my job well and that I am well-versed on a variety of subjects? People are fond of saying, "It happens to everyone." True, but not on a daily basis. There is a rare day when I don't do something dumb.

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02 Sep 2007, 11:02 am

I feel that I am too NT for the Aspie world, but too Aspie for the NT world.

I haven't really thought about any specific traits, though.

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