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mojo123
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01 Sep 2007, 11:44 am

After reading and rereading my posts and replies, I am less anxious about the testing procedure. This is how God made me and he has a plan for me. I am Aspergers and will not stop until I get the official diagnoses. My counselor does children, adolescents and adults. He is above a day care center and has games all up in his office. he is the only specialist in this area that my EAP will do. I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

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01 Sep 2007, 12:58 pm

A few cautions from my own experience and observation.

I strongly suspect I have asperger's, it would sure explain a lot. I also am bipolar. Don't assume this is an either/or thing. It is not unusual to have both! You sound to me like you might well have both.

Another thing, I have selfmedicated with pot at various periods in my life, the last binge lasted about a year and I just quit a month ago. Pot is not a good idea, especially if you are doing it constantly to feel "normal." In my experience it does make me feel normal and gets me going with new ideas et cetera, but eventually I see I have to quit if I am going to actually execute those ideas that still make sense in the morning! Also, I can see that it tends to exaggerate all my symptoms, increasing paranoia and isolation. And my color sense as an artist is better without it. Really! Try life without it! Life is good! (of course the first week without it is hell, but it doesn't take too long for things to improve)

The advantage for me of having a diagnosis (my gp is skeptical but he still said he would said he would refer me to a specialist) is that it would confirm for me what would seem to be a good explanation of the problems I have had all my life. Acting on the basis of my self-diagnosis has already made my life easier because I know more what to watch out for in dealing with people et cetera and I have a better idea about why things have gone wrong in the past and what my own needs are. I can accept myself better. I don't want or need medication or special accomodations beyond what my family have already provided me with. One of the things I have to watch out for is a tendency to lecture other people (I hope I am not doing that now,lol) and a tendency to feel superior, to be arrogant. And it is always easier to see that in other people than in ourselves, but that tendency is common in asperger's people, because we (I think I belong...) make sense to ourselves and we tend to make our own minds up about things. It is in some ways a good kind of arrogance, but we need to be able to listen to other people too, if we can manage it.

Good luck! I hope you find empathetic and experienced diagnosticians with integrity. I hope you will learn good things in the process.



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01 Sep 2007, 1:02 pm

mojo123 wrote:
After reading and rereading my posts and replies, I am less anxious about the testing procedure. This is how God made me and he has a plan for me. I am Aspergers and will not stop until I get the official diagnoses. My counselor does children, adolescents and adults. He is above a day care center and has games all up in his office. he is the only specialist in this area that my EAP will do. I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Thank you all,

mojo123


What happens /if/ the professionals tell you (even if you do find one knowledgeable about the Autism Spectrum) that you don't qualify for a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome?



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01 Sep 2007, 1:05 pm

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Well acting might just do that. All things considered it a pretty dumb idea.


Particularly if its to defraud the government or to avoid paying child support.


Well guess that's his choice. We all are trying to get respect and understanding from others and still end up with those that want the diagnosis just go out to get 'payback' against the system and use the system and make it look like Asperger's is just a fad to be able to use the system where others that legitimately need it can't get it.



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02 Sep 2007, 4:49 am

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You DON'T sound like a good person, etc... Keep talking as you do here and you might not ever get your kids back.


You are not in a position to judge if mojo123 is a GOOD person or not. You have not gone through what he has. I have and every word he said is 100% true and valid.

Do not judge others unless you are on your dying bed and have had all the experiences life has in store for you cause you never know what is coming around the corner...

Mojo123, my advice to you, is do the 'autistic thing' do the hand flapping once in a while, do the rocking back and forth, do the silent strong type, do all the stereotypical autistic things but in moderation so you will not seem to overdo it.
One of the tests they will give you is probably the MMPI which has about 600 questions. The MMPI-2 is the updated version now used when diagnosing among other tests. Do a Google search and read all info on it so you have an idea of what is coming. Another tests they might use is the AQ (Autism Quotient) and EQ or something this tests was formed by Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen. Do a google search on that and see what you can find.

Finally, you are right: the world IS FULL of idiots... I come across them every day.

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02 Sep 2007, 6:12 am

mojo123 wrote:
After reading and rereading my posts and replies, I am less anxious about the testing procedure. This is how God made me and he has a plan for me. I am Aspergers and will not stop until I get the official diagnoses. My counselor does children, adolescents and adults. He is above a day care center and has games all up in his office. he is the only specialist in this area that my EAP will do. I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Thank you all,

mojo123

Good also keep reading posts here. I read some fictional books before and it totally confused me.



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02 Sep 2007, 9:27 am

It seems that mojo123 is a self-diagnosed AS. Of course self-diagnosis does not confer any legal status. A medical diagnosis from a psychiatrist that specialises in autism, confer legal status that one is disabled and may be entitled to benefits and concessions at work.

Theres the pros and cons of a medical diagnosis. It is worth checking this out whether it would be better to have a diagnosis. Mojo123 says it might be possible to game the test towards a AS diagnosis. Only if one is experienced in taking various tests (such as intelligence and personality tests) and acting might one find it easy to "cheat" or game for points. But it would be better just to be oneself. If you are genuinely AS then you would not need act up or pretend. If you are a parent or carer, you would also need to show that you are high functioning during the diagnosis. If you turn out to be low functioning, the authorities may consider you incapable of looking after your children for instance and place you under some for of suprvision (or worse place your children into care). You will still be diagnosed as AS if you are high functioning.

I am self-diagnosed, but as a (high functioning) carer looking after my elderly father, I have to weigh up carefully whether it is worth me applying for a diagnosis.

If one is in any doubt, it would be best not to apply for medical diagnosis.



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03 Sep 2007, 12:48 am

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Acting on the basis of my self-diagnosis has already made my life easier because I know more what to watch out for in dealing with people et cetera and I have a better idea about why things have gone wrong in the past and what my own needs are. I can accept myself better.


I've come to that conclusion also; I've been trying to decide if an official dx is necessary, and have come to the conclusion that right now it isn't important to me. There are a few areas where I've having trouble, but I'm coping pretty well and the self-dx has given me a start on the problems I am having. If I run into more serious issues, it's still an option later on. At least I can be happy with myself (and not worry quite so hide about hiding all of my odd behaviours :) )


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08 Sep 2007, 6:33 pm

Your Aspie score: 171 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 69 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
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09 Sep 2007, 4:23 am

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My son was diagnosed as borderline AS at 12 years. I am going to go through the process. I have been living in the NT world for 38 years and can act quite normal. Has anyone gone through the testing process so I can study? I am tired of living a lie, and don't want to go back to the mental institutions.

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STUDY!! !! ! Are you sick, or just plain stupid. This is why I feel the way I do when someone says they are an undiagnosed Aspie unless they prove it in behavior online, or off depending on the way I'm communicating. I'm sick of this stupid trend by geeks like this guy. This one is just moron enough to say study.

Hey Mojo ass hole what you want to join the special club of never not feeling like an alien. Of having everyday sounds hurt real bad. It must be nice to have the social knowledge to have a wife to have a kid with. Would you like to lose all control when overloaded. Do you think your little NT brain could handle that? I guess you must think that we are all wierd NT's like you, and we studied. Go to hell you pathetic jerk. I hate people like you Freaking wannabe. If you had a clue of what I, and every other Autistic has been through due to how we are percieved you wouldn't insult us like this. :evil: :evil: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



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09 Sep 2007, 4:37 am

I didn't read everything before I was overcome by anger. I will not apologize, because it sounds to me like defrauding still, and anyone who learns enough about AS can get that score on those Aspie tests. I'm coming back to say to those who are real self diagnosed Aspies I don't hold it against you. I was one for awhile.



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09 Sep 2007, 12:36 pm

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I didn't read everything before I was overcome by anger. I will not apologize, because it sounds to me like defrauding still, and anyone who learns enough about AS can get that score on those Aspie tests. I'm coming back to say to those who are real self diagnosed Aspies I don't hold it against you. I was one for awhile.


I won't hold it against you either for being such an ass... I can also say, lucky you who found the right person to diagnose you, who had relatives who knew you and could provide the feedback and assist your official diagnosis... because YOU have NO CLUE how it is to live in hell that you live with all the disadvantages you have and NOT being believed just and only because no official diagnosis could be made because there is NO LIVING relative who can support and confirm my hell!! !

If you want to trully know what HELL is, try to live your life without the support and the backdrop that your official diagnosis offers you, without the understnding, without the acceptance... That is what true struggle is, what true hell is. Unless you have experienced it then you don't know how this guy feels seeing his own kid being taken away, seeing life failing him together with the crappy NT society we live in...

A desparate person will do desparate things and this desparate person wants to study... Yes, he wants to study cause that is ALL that he can do in his f****d up situation! What would you do smart ass if your future and life was hanging from a thread???

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09 Sep 2007, 1:43 pm

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You DON'T sound like a good person, etc... Keep talking as you do here and you might not ever get your kids back.


You are not in a position to judge if mojo123 is a GOOD person or not. You have not gone through what he has. I have and every word he said is 100% true and valid.

Do not judge others unless you are on your dying bed and have had all the experiences life has in store for you cause you never know what is coming around the corner...

Mojo123, my advice to you, is do the 'autistic thing' do the hand flapping once in a while, do the rocking back and forth, do the silent strong type, do all the stereotypical autistic things but in moderation so you will not seem to overdo it.
One of the tests they will give you is probably the MMPI which has about 600 questions. The MMPI-2 is the updated version now used when diagnosing among other tests. Do a Google search and read all info on it so you have an idea of what is coming. Another tests they might use is the AQ (Autism Quotient) and EQ or something this tests was formed by Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen. Do a google search on that and see what you can find.

Finally, you are right: the world IS FULL of idiots... I come across them every day.

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GEE, I didn't even judge! I said he didn't sound like a good person. Seems to ME that YOU did that.

And STUDY!?!?!?!? COME ON! Besides, AS is SUPPOSED to go back to when you were 3 or younger.

As for the death bed, etc... I HAVE been close to death. My doctor said he would have given me 5 days tops. And I have had LOADS of problems, and some directly or indirectly linked to AS symptoms!

Anyway, I have PERSONALLY experienced a lot of the bad stuff people have here due to autism and AS, and can certainly relate to other things. On the plus side, I have some things I thought were pretty common, but none of the REALLY neat things.

And in this exchange, it seems like YOU have done most of the judging!



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09 Sep 2007, 1:48 pm

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mojo123,

You DON'T sound like a good person, etc... Keep talking as you do here and you might not ever get your kids back.


You are not in a position to judge if mojo123 is a GOOD person or not. You have not gone through what he has. I have and every word he said is 100% true and valid.

Do not judge others unless you are on your dying bed and have had all the experiences life has in store for you cause you never know what is coming around the corner...

Mojo123, my advice to you, is do the 'autistic thing' do the hand flapping once in a while, do the rocking back and forth, do the silent strong type, do all the stereotypical autistic things but in moderation so you will not seem to overdo it.
One of the tests they will give you is probably the MMPI which has about 600 questions. The MMPI-2 is the updated version now used when diagnosing among other tests. Do a Google search and read all info on it so you have an idea of what is coming. Another tests they might use is the AQ (Autism Quotient) and EQ or something this tests was formed by Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen. Do a google search on that and see what you can find.

Finally, you are right: the world IS FULL of idiots... I come across them every day.

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GEE, I didn't even judge! I said he didn't sound like a good person. Seems to ME that YOU did that.

And STUDY!?!?!?!? COME ON! Besides, AS is SUPPOSED to go back to when you were 3 or younger.

As for the death bed, etc... I HAVE been close to death. My doctor said he would have given me 5 days tops. And I have had LOADS of problems, and some directly or indirectly linked to AS symptoms!

Anyway, I have PERSONALLY experienced a lot of the bad stuff people have here due to autism and AS, and can certainly relate to other things. On the plus side, I have some things I thought were pretty common, but none of the REALLY neat things.

And in this exchange, it seems like YOU have done most of the judging!


You DON'T sound like a very smart person ... see? I am NOT judging either!

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09 Sep 2007, 3:03 pm

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09 Sep 2007, 6:08 pm

So, Star = mojo, right?