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11 Sep 2007, 5:51 pm

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The idea for a magazine is a very good one.


One little thing puzzles me:
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A few weeks ago (please see article on "AS And The Relativity Of Time," which will be written when I find the time. ), an idea struck me.


Is there a typo there, or some humor? Or are you asking us to read something you haven't written yet (because time is relative)?



:D :D Thanks for noticing monty...that's my attempt at "humor with a dash of truth".

I have no "internal clock",or one that is broken,so a few weeks could be a few days or a few months for me....so,you have now read my essay on "AS And The Relativity Of Time" :wink: (There is also an implied connection to Einstein,often adopted by us as Aspie.)


I have thought about an on-line subscription based magazine,especially until we can figure out the details of how to mail the mags out of country....I do not want to exclude Europian,Asian,Australian members.I thought we could do a "distribution" by mailing bulk cpies to memebers in these countries and having them mail them out by country,but these does sound complicated and expensive.I will have to talk to the publisher about this and get back to you.I do know,we are making a real "magazine".I think it is important to have something in our hands to hold,share with family,work,friends,Drs,schools,prisons,treatment centers,psychwards.

My reasoning on this is that I believe there are many older aspies who have no idea that they are aspie(I'm 43 and didnt know until a year ago), and have gotten lost in the system.I would hope that we can inlighten them and help them get help.Even knowing they are not "crazy" would help.We have aseen many examples of parents here,who had no idea that they had AS until their kids were DXed....what about those of us who never breed.They might never have exposure to any more info about AS then the crap that passes as information during "Autism Awareness" month....a bunch of stressed out screaming kids arent exactly going to give them any insights into why they cant keep jobs or friends.

So,thanks for the input...keep it coming.This is a fluid process,right now."We" are shaping it as we go.

is there no way they could be posted from the one home [the paper copies] ?

in england,fanzines [magazines made by fans] were [or used to be] very popular,wouldn't the magazine in paper form be successful enough?



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11 Sep 2007, 5:52 pm

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I think it is a great idea.
Let me know if you need anyone to write for it as I love writing and always had an interest in such things.


Count me in as well! I would love getting something like this in my mailbox.


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11 Sep 2007, 6:59 pm

[quote="krex

My reasoning on this is that I believe there are many older aspies who have no idea that they are aspie(I'm 43 and didnt know until a year ago), and have gotten lost in the system.I would hope that we can inlighten them and help them get help.Even knowing they are not "crazy" would help.We have aseen many examples of parents here,who had no idea that they had AS until their kids were DXed....what about those of us who never breed.They might never have exposure to any more info about AS then the crap that passes as information during "Autism Awareness" month....a bunch of stressed out screaming kids arent exactly going to give them any insights into why they cant keep jobs or friends.

:D

I really appreciate this, being new here at age 54, self diagnosed. Tim Page's article in the New Yorker about his experience as an aspie changed my life. And I love writing. (and I've got a lifetime of frustration and discovery, embarassments and solitary joys to write about. I wasn't born yesterday!)

And there are some really good writers here. We should be inviting people to look at this thread, to think about submitting, and also letting them know when we like their writing!

And I would think this would be an inclusive mag, with all levels of literacy and ability included, but it would also include lots of stuff that anybody can see is just plain good, well thought out and/or well written. There is some great stuff on WP now.



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11 Sep 2007, 7:38 pm

Thanks for all the feed back folks.I really appriciate your support and enthusiasm.I also think we have a lot of good writing and insight here but dont want it all wasted "preaching to the choir" but reaching NT's(who maybe operating under false assumptions about people with AS(as are some in the medical profession)and the AS who are still unknown to us(or themselves).


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11 Sep 2007, 8:37 pm

[quote="emergingartist54]Tim Page's article in the New Yorker about his experience as an aspie changed my life. And I love writing. (and I've got a lifetime of frustration and discovery, embarassments and solitary joys to write about. I wasn't born yesterday!)[/quote]

As far as Aspies in writing, Tim Page is the resounding "Yes" answer. On another forum, there's someone who's a writer/editor and someone else who's published a book. There are Aspies in every area, including the social ones, so there's plenty to write about. Maybe a quarterly called "The Autism Quarterly" subtitled "Life On The Autism Spectrum"?


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11 Sep 2007, 8:45 pm

I think we need a magazine that is loaded with humor, interesting stories, and fun, because people don't naturally enjoy learning new things (especially something difficult to understand). I noticed on amazon.com that there already are some magazines about Aspergers, but they appear to be nothing but serious (maybe I'm wrong?).

Television specials about AS are great, but something is needed on a regular basis. Maybe an AS magazine could lead to a regular t.v. episode with different varieties of Aspie characters so that people stop having such a narrow vision of what Aspergers is.

I obsessed to find answers to questions I had all my life about why my life was so different than other people's lives. That's what led me to discover that the answers to the questions I had were answered by Aspergers. I'm 52 and it wasn't until January 28th of this year that I finally learned what Asperger's is! If I had not had the time to research as much as I did, I doubt I ever would have known what I now know.

My point is I agree that there must be a lot of older adults with AS who have no idea it exists. For those who do, probably many of them don't even realize that they have Aspergers. If other older aspies (who are unaware of AS) don't search for answers, then we (aspies) who are aware of it, would do the world a big favor by bringing information about AS as close as we can to where these people are.

Can you just picture an aspie (unaware of being one) in a waiting room picking up an Aspie magazine out of curiosity only to discover answers to life-long questions?!?! Even if it wasn't an aspie picking up the magazine, enough people in society are in dire need to be better informed about AS!

Before even reading this thread, I planned to see to it that my local newspaper publishes an article about Aspergers. I also am going to make sure my adult aspie support group meetings are published in the paper's self-help section on a regular basis.

Count me in on being another person who will gladly contribute written material towards an Aspie magazine!


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11 Sep 2007, 9:33 pm

Not only could it help undiagnosed Aspies learn about themselves, it would be a good opportunity to modify some of the DSM-IV traits listed. Very young children may show a lack of empathy because of delayed emotional development, but adults don't. Also, it would be a great way to share coping tips for living in an NT world.

It can NOT be a curebie rag, or a mercury rag, or a "pity me" rag. It's time to get some positive light on autism. Yes, a lot of us have problems, but damn it we make it work. Some with help, some without. Leave the bickering on the forums where it belongs.


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11 Sep 2007, 9:40 pm

MysteryFan3 wrote:
Not only could it help undiagnosed Aspies learn about themselves, it would be a good opportunity to modify some of the DSM-IV traits listed. Very young children may show a lack of empathy because of delayed emotional development, but adults don't. Also, it would be a great way to share coping tips for living in an NT world.

It can NOT be a curebie rag, or a mercury rag, or a "pity me" rag. It's time to get some positive light on autism. Yes, a lot of us have problems, but damn it we make it work. Some with help, some without. Leave the bickering on the forums where it belongs.


Agreed.I was hoping it would be more a place to feature aspie writing and art,hobbies and passions....not just about AS.As mentioned....it is a "part" of who we are,but not the whole picture.I believe the DSM is being revised this year...will be very interesting to see what has been changed.


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12 Sep 2007, 12:24 am

I would like to see all age groups represented becaue the current fous appears to be young kids(and genes,which are really,really young kids 8O ).I think that how aspie "present traits" are going to be influenced by gender,home,school,work environments and several other factors.

I would really like to have an article from an older parent of an adult recently DXed.To see what they thought was going on with their kid(before there was such a thing as AS).Inspite of the "current increase in the number of people DXed with AS....I dont think we evolved in a couple of generations.I think it is more likely that some ended up institutionilized,some were taken care of by families,some turned to addiction and suicide.....and some of them found ways to "cope".....or else the gene would be gone.

So any adults who have shared their DX with a parent....do you think they would be willing to write something from their perspective?


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12 Sep 2007, 3:09 am

I absolutely love this idea. I'd be all up for helping out!! !


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12 Sep 2007, 8:22 pm

Count me in. Sounds very interesting.


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12 Sep 2007, 9:04 pm

Tjanks...I'm stting up a web site to submit and suscribe(we dont have a date set yet,hoping for Dec.)


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13 Sep 2007, 12:11 am

This sounds like an excellent idea... I'll definitely subscribe!



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13 Sep 2007, 12:12 am

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Tjanks...I'm stting up a web site to submit and suscribe(we dont have a date set yet,hoping for Dec.)


keep me posted for sure :D I'm all giddy about it-this is a hand flappy worthy project to look forward to seeing happen and be able to help with! (hmmm... I say that a lot. Is "hand flappy worthy" considered a rote phrase if I'm actually doing it too?)


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13 Sep 2007, 12:27 am

nobodyzdream wrote:
krex wrote:
Tjanks...I'm stting up a web site to submit and suscribe(we dont have a date set yet,hoping for Dec.)


keep me posted for sure :D I'm all giddy about it-this is a hand flappy worthy project to look forward to seeing happen and be able to help with! (hmmm... I say that a lot. Is "hand flappy worthy" considered a rote phrase if I'm actually doing it too?)


Me to.I had the idea about a month ago but kept it on the "down-low'(lol,I am such a hispter),until I did some research to see if there was something like this already.I couldnt find anything that was close to what I had in mind.But there are several great AS writers doing blogs that I dont think get read....so I bookmarked them and want to ask them to write some things for us.

I also noticed,hanging out here the past year,something that really isnt talked about in the "expert literature"....a lot of us like to make things.We are creative and enjoy anything that involves "building"....knitting,sewing,drawing,models(I work in clay,junk sculpture,collages).There are others who are creative in the maths/sciences/medical research.I think this desire to learn and desire to create is what really makes us AS....not just the "difficulties".




How about some maazine names that dont have the terms....AS,aspie,autism in the name but reflect who we are?Any ideas???


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13 Sep 2007, 2:04 am

"The Spectrum"??(Maybe they'll wonder what the heck is the spectrum and pick it up and start reading it and learn a little.) And for people ON The Spectrum, they will immediatly get it and KNOW its for them. Did that make any sense? I don't know, just throwing my first thought out there. I'm not a very imaginative person to be honest. Like you can't tell huh? :D


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