Do you have a good command of language?

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23 Sep 2007, 2:19 pm

language is one of worst problems for am,like to think what am know is great in advanced words,but realised am didn't understand most of them-including small words,am learn words through memorization and echolalia rather than understanding.
am do have one thing a lot of people don't have with language,great spelling,it might not matter verbally,but it does when it comes to the written word.
if am writing a text,am never spell words wrong for the sake of shortening things,it looks wrong and it ruins the language,am also use full stops and commas,anything where it's needed.
people complain when am take ages to write a text,yes it takes a while to write something out properly but at least it makes sense and is understandable unlike shortened words in texts.



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23 Sep 2007, 2:28 pm

I ain't got much use for grammar.

Awhile back, I was reading the introduction to a dictionary. It said that the purpose of a dictionary was to report how words are used, not how they should be used.

Language is a living thing, growing, changing, not a rule book. Some people get paid for making up rules, others get paid for reciting them and saying they're important. Them that can, do; them that can't, teach.

Language has two purposes, communication and the inherent music of words. If people don't understand what you're saying, you ain't communicating.


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23 Sep 2007, 2:29 pm

I have a good command of the english language except when I am stressed (and then I stutter) or when I lose the important noun. It can take up to three days to find the noun I lost.
I remember in second grade speaking in King James English because I liked the cadence better. Unfortunately my speech was so garbled no matter whether I spoke regular English or King James, that it was assumed that I was ret*d until the fifth grade.
And yes, I get tired of people not liking someone else being smarter than they are. I like being around people more intelligent than me.



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23 Sep 2007, 3:01 pm

Yes, I find nt's can't follow long trains of aural argument, even supposedly well educated lawyers. this is when i am speaking carefully and using well constructed sentences. they could follow it if they were reading it! (but they never initiate email correspondence....)

Online I don't always bother with upper case letters at the beginning of sentences but other than that I am proper. And spelling mistakes bother me! I don't want to get a reputation as a fussbudget and I don't want to spend all my time correcting people. What they are saying is much more important but ohhhhhh...... Spellcheck doesn't correct for wrong usage, people! :evil: All the time I see people writing "except" when they mean "accept" and everyone needs to review the difference between "to" and "too"

"Too" seems to be in danger of disappearing! Just today I saw someone use "too" when "to" was clearly intended. That was striking because usually the case is the other way around. I think if I had to take a nine to five (or late shift job) proofreading is something I could do, if they still have it. Maybe we should have a spelling thread, just to mention these sorts of errors without quoting or pointing fingers at perpetrators.



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23 Sep 2007, 3:25 pm

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In school, I was accused of showing off, or using "big words." I questioned the dubious pleasure of showing off, and explained that the words being used weren't big to me.


I find it annoying when I use some words and I'm asked for explanation what those expressions used by me mean. I'm not saying about big words but about those normal ones which people in general should be familiar with, for example the word "prudish".



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23 Sep 2007, 3:33 pm

Maybe they spend all of their time reading the TV Guide.


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23 Sep 2007, 4:01 pm

Irulan wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
In school, I was accused of showing off, or using "big words." I questioned the dubious pleasure of showing off, and explained that the words being used weren't big to me.


I find it annoying when I use some words and I'm asked for explanation what those expressions used by me mean. I'm not saying about big words but about those normal ones which people in general should be familiar with, for example the word "prudish".


Believe it or not, the word "prudish" IS generally considered a big word! Big doesn't necessarily refer to length. Some LONG words, like extracuricular, xylophone or selfconcious are often not considered big. Smaller ones like abrogate, xygote, or prudish ARE! The term big is used to refer to seemingly seldom used or taught words. BTW I DO know words that are MUCH longer, but they generally ARE considered big words, so they wouldn't illustrate my point well here.

Intelligent people won't put someone down for using "big" words, or saying intelligent things. BTW I prefer to be around people that are as smart as, or smarter, than I am. If someone is much less intelligent, it just just doesn't seem worth it, and I can get bored. Of course, if they are MUCH smarter than I am at the subject being discussed, I will be afraid of boring THEM. 8-( Luckily that doesn't happen much, and usually they appreciate the areas where I AM smart.



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23 Sep 2007, 4:32 pm

I wasn't refering to the length of words when writing about "big words". I know that a word doesn't need to be long to be considered "big", such one which isn't generally used by average people. Well, maybe "prudish" isn't part of basic vocabulary but I didn't expect that having used such a word at presence of girls of 16 several years ago, I'd hear: "please, use such words so as we could understand you". Anyway, even if this word isn't used very often, in a normal everyday conversations, it doesn't belong to the category of words like transubstantiation or metampsychosis which can be suspected of being completely unknown for most people. In many cases I have no idea that some words's meaning can remain a secret for majority of people. I tend to assume automatically that each one is equally well read as myself... well, I burn my fingers then and I draw a conclusion that it isn't necessarily true.



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23 Sep 2007, 4:55 pm

I are actually haveing a goodish command of language in The english form. Grammar by, me proper always. Punctuation; always' good, "when I be use it?

I admit it. I have a decent command of the English language. I have to put on a facade at times so that people do not accuse me of showing off my vocabulary. Dude.


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23 Sep 2007, 4:58 pm

Irulan wrote:
I wasn't refering to the length of words when writing about "big words". I know that a word doesn't need to be long to be considered "big", such one which isn't generally used by average people. Well, maybe "prudish" isn't part of basic vocabulary but I didn't expect that having used such a word at presence of girls of 16 several years ago, I'd hear: "please, use such words so as we could understand you". Anyway, even if this word isn't used very often, in a normal everyday conversations, it doesn't belong to the category of words like transubstantiation or metampsychosis which can be suspected of being completely unknown for most people. In many cases I have no idea that some words's meaning can remain a secret for majority of people. I tend to assume automatically that each one is equally well read as myself... well, I burn my fingers then and I draw a conclusion that it isn't necessarily true.


Ironically, transubstantiation might not be considered a big word! BTW I DID recently find some words that were popular in french, spanish, and some other languages that, though they were ALSO english words, were NOT popular in English! Some foreign English courses don't pick popular words. I don't think YOU have the problem, but some do.

BTW when I say you don't seem to have the problem, I mean that I think your basic speech uses easily understood words. That is good, because even some words used in britain may not be easily understood in the U.S. and vice versa. ALSO, there are some english terms, or adopted english terms that nearly everyone in my generation understands but most indians, for example, DON'T! Some examples?

hasta luego(Spanish for until later)
adios(Spanish for good bye)
gesundheit(German for health(used to mean god bless you))
c'est la vie(French for "that's life")

ALL foreign, but adopted into English. You can OBVIOUSLY use larger words. 8-)



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23 Sep 2007, 8:06 pm

i was told by a doctor that i fooled alot of people thinking i was higher functioning because of my language skills my whole life :lol:


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23 Sep 2007, 8:23 pm

I've always been good with language. I think part of it is that my mom read out loud to me when I was still inside her--and she even did that with SHAKESPEARE. My mom claims I was reading when I was two and a half years old. Then as I got older and started studying foreign languages, I excelled at that too. When I first started going for counseling for my mental and social problems, they diagnosed me with something called schizoaffective disorder, but another psychiatrist said my language skills were too good for it to be that, and I agree. I've never been officially diagnosed with AS but some have suggested it and I'm inclined to agree with that. (Sorry if I digressed a bit there.)



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24 Sep 2007, 12:37 am

Suffice it to say that NetSpeak is banned from this particular thread. :lol:


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24 Sep 2007, 12:47 am

I have a better time with writing my thoughts than verbal communication.



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24 Sep 2007, 1:09 am

It annoys me that informality is considered to be inarticulate by those posting here.

The two habits are often practiced by the same people, but they aren't the same.


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24 Sep 2007, 1:24 am

Jainaday wrote:
It annoys me that informality is considered to be inarticulate by those posting here.

The two habits are often practiced by the same people, but they aren't the same.


Technically it is inarticulate but seriously, who has a pole so far up their ass that they never use informality? I have no problem with it.

I also do not have a problem with swearing. Why would I voluntarily remove dozens of viable words from my vocabulary? Although I'm sure some people here will say something like "it's ignorant."

Dude. :P

And edited for hundreds of grammatical errors. :P


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