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26 Sep 2007, 9:14 pm

Um spacing out like that could be a type of seizure. I have a friend who this happens too. He describes as feeling like he's "stupid" for awhile, can't think or reason anything. He said that he comes out of it by starting simple mental exercises first, like counting to 5, then trying to do more complex things. He also cannot move when this happens. Check out this link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absence_seizure


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26 Sep 2007, 9:16 pm

Im pretty sure I can move when it happens.. Although Im not really sure if I even do move, Im so out of it.


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26 Sep 2007, 9:18 pm

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But still, does this mean that I could also be autistic? Im just curious.


ADHD like effects are highly comorbid with ASD. Interestingly you mentioned caffeine. Caffeine's a non-selective phosphodiesterase inhibitor and Vinpocetine is a selective phosphodiesterase-1 inhibitor.
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26 Sep 2007, 9:34 pm

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Lol whats that supposed to mean


It means.....I'm pretty sure you're autistic! ....hate to be the one to tell you :D



As far as oxygen (re: bloodflow to your brain); have you tried ozone (O3) - 'souped-up' oxygen. Fluorine? Maybe standing upright is detrimental to the circulation - that gravity thing. Transfusion?

The Aussie Aspies on WP have an opposite vortex, but that's another story.


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26 Sep 2007, 9:56 pm

Don't feel bad, my therapist thinks I am schizoaffective disorder, not AS. 4 out of 5 of my other personalities agree. I am not going to renew my prescription for Rispadal, but I will keep the allergy meds. Try St. John's wort for anxiety and depression, omega 3 fish oil and Centrum Silver works OK with me. Maybe throw in some cough syrup every once in a while.

They're coming to take me away, ha ha!

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27 Sep 2007, 11:41 am

I think you're onto something there - bigtime. Oxygen needs to get to the brain through breathing and sheer flow. Deep belly breathing, shoulder stand (check out the yoga pose) or even lying on the floor with your feet straight up against the wall with a rolled up towel under your neck and lower back - and just breathe deeply. Let the blood flow upwards instead of its usual path. Anything you can do to invert yourself (those inversion tables rock btw - if you can buy one, do - they're great for the spine as well) - will help you with getting some O back into the cerebral area. You will feel energized and your brain will thank you muchly. :)

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27 Sep 2007, 12:02 pm

LabPet wrote:
username88 wrote:
Lol whats that supposed to mean


It means.....I'm pretty sure you're autistic! ....hate to be the one to tell you :D



As far as oxygen (re: bloodflow to your brain); have you tried ozone (O3) - 'souped-up' oxygen. Fluorine? Maybe standing upright is detrimental to the circulation - that gravity thing. Transfusion?

The Aussie Aspies on WP have an opposite vortex, but that's another story.



Ozone is pretty caustic stuff, as is hydrogen peroxide. These have such high levels of free radical oxygen that they effectively cause burning at room temperature. If you gargle with some diluted peroxide, you will taste what I am talking about. Ozone and peroxide have limited use as disinfectants, but are not generally good for the body.

Even breathing pure oxygen can speed up the oxidation of lung tissues and cause system wide oxidative stress in people with emphysema that are breathing 100% oxygen. It's better than the alternative, but it isn't a harmless therapy.

Flourine? In what form? There are some unusual fluor compounds that can transport oxygen, but I don't think it is a good idea to inject them to do your own experiment. Most ordinary fluor compounds may help with bone structure in very small doses, but soon become toxic to the thyroid and other organs.

I personally don't think that a bit more oxygen or blood to the brain is going to reverse autism per se. It might have effects on certain cognitive functions - possible helping with symptoms of something like anxiety, OCD, ADD, etc. And this is only theoretical - it could help some, though I am not aware of it (except that certain types of anxiety/panic benefit from Oxygen).

The developmental changes from ASD impact much more than oxygen levels. While some of the drugs that improve oxygen levels to the brain might be beneficial for managing some behaviors, I would guess that it is through something other than oxygen.



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27 Sep 2007, 12:25 pm

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Every once in a while, when Im at my computer or whatever, seriously, I feel like theres nothin goin on up there, if you know what I mean. I just sort of space out with a blank and almost stoned feeling in my head, I get kind of tense too. ...Is this something I should be worrying about?
Normally, smoking or something more intense assures I wont get into this state of mind, but I generally want to stay away from that stuff.. Drinking iced tea helps I think too..
Maybe Im just understimmed.


It's probably called a "microsleep", where you brain activity shifts down from Beta to Alpha. Doing some activity is going to get your brain active again. But in the mean time, if you're being fairly sedate, maybe even worn out a bit, you're going to go into microsleeps.

If this is indeed what you're having, which is what it sounds like, then it is a natural occurrence for all creatures who sleep.


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27 Sep 2007, 12:31 pm

mojo123 wrote:
Don't feel bad, my therapist thinks I am schizoaffective disorder, not AS. 4 out of 5 of my other personalities agree. I am not going to renew my prescription for Rispadal, but I will keep the allergy meds. Try St. John's wort for anxiety and depression, omega 3 fish oil and Centrum Silver works OK with me. Maybe throw in some cough syrup every once in a while.

They're coming to take me away, ha ha!

mojo123


Mojo - I know therapists can be real helpers - but they really don't know a whole lot when it comes to the human psyche. So I wouldn't put that much weight on their surmisings about this or that label. They just like using strange words so they sound important. But really when it comes to how the mind actually works - they haven't a clue.

See also covering one's ass. ;)



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27 Sep 2007, 8:26 pm

Monty, Totally kidding about the Fluorine gas!

However, ozone (O3) occurs naturally and is normal, beneficial (environmentally) since forever. The confusion is when ozone exists in the TROPOSPHERE, as a greenhouse gas (resulting from CO2 emission) - this is deletorious to health and environment! But 'natural' ozone is simply negatively charged ions (extra O) from such phenomena as waterfalls, those home air purifiers (like Ionic Breeze - for allergies, etc), even taking a shower gives you a natural rush of ozone at a low dose. Ozone, from a qualitative assessment (is it 'good' or 'bad'?) just depends on WHERE this molecule occurs! Carbon sequestration is dependent on trees, plants, etc. which use excess CO2 as uptake in the Krebs cycle. These trees and plants also emit natural ozone, where it belongs - near the surface of the earth (not in the troposphere)!

Anyway, I'm really not sure there would be anything wrong with a healthy individuals oxygen uptake (given unlikely variables); probably more like something Sophist said. 2ukerkerl advice might be a good idea - Ginko biloba. I don't know much about this herbal supplement, but I know many swear by the positive effects. Just depends....is your difficulty neurological (like Sophist suggests - petit mal seizure?) or a circulatory/health problem.....unknown. I guess if you feel like you're really having new/bad symptoms you could ask a doctor.....I don't know. Good luck.


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27 Sep 2007, 9:49 pm

jjstar wrote:
Mojo - I know therapists can be real helpers - but they really don't know a whole lot when it comes to the human psyche. So I wouldn't put that much weight on their surmisings about this or that label. They just like using strange words so they sound important. But really when it comes to how the mind actually works - they haven't a clue.

See also covering one's ass. ;)


No one can really know *too* much about the human psyche- the whole "black box" thing. However, I get annoyed when people repeatedly bad-mouth therapists on this board. They went to college for four years, spent at least five years post-college in specialized study, and *then* pursued psychology as a career. I mean, you could be talking about someone who's spent the past thirty years studying the human psyche. So really, even if they "don't have a clue", they still know a heck of a lot more about the human psyche than you do. Don't forget, if there were no therapists/mental health professionals, there would be no "Asperger's Disorder" and you would all just be considered the local weirdos. Kids with learning disabilities would be considered stupid, and who knows, people with other mental disorders might be killed or abandoned because no one would know how to handle them. Sorry for the harsh language, but this really gets to me, as both my parents are psychologists and they are excellent at what they do. Reading about AS on wikipedia and deciding on a self-diagnosis does not make someone more of an expert on ASD than someone who has spent their career studying it (not saying that some people on this board haven't done more reading than that, but really, that seems to be the only requirement to start bad-mouthing psychologists around here).



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27 Sep 2007, 10:46 pm

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The silence of your mind, deafening you. You are emptying your head of all the chatter and day-to-day worries. It is a form of meditation IMHO. Learn to control it, you still have all your facilities and memories. Maybe it is the mild autism. You can slip in and out of it if you try, drink lots of water. Hydrogen is the key. Your brain is not wired like the NT's, they don't understand. I can dream awake.

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i dream awake too. not sure about the hydrogen angle there......... evryone needs agua.


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27 Sep 2007, 11:01 pm

AS is SO close to autism in so many respects that it is considered a type of autism. {paraphrase quote}

I am autistic. A HF autistic, but autistic in all respects. I am not just guessing either - 2ukenherkl and others here who know me are aware too. Dx of AS because and only because of my enhanced cognitive functioning, but experience the entire spectrum - and therefore am white light; the compilation of the spectrum. I may quite distinct; this forum is mostly Aspies. I suspect, with sufficient reason, I am a true Kanner autistic in that I am 'organically' autistic with a high genetic predisposition (more than an order of magnitude higher), no Sylvian Fissure, sensory (dis)integration, nearly mute, etc. Many of you here know already, yes? Or perhaps have guessed.

Temple Grandin also is considered this.....and others too - few.


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27 Sep 2007, 11:32 pm

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AS is SO close to autism in so many respects that it is considered a type of autism. {paraphrase quote}

I am autistic. A HF autistic, but autistic in all respects. I am not just guessing either - 2ukenherkl and others here who know me are aware too. Dx of AS because and only because of my enhanced cognitive functioning, but experience the entire spectrum - and therefore am white light; the compilation of the spectrum. I may quite distinct; this forum is mostly Aspies. I suspect, with sufficient reason, I am a true Kanner autistic in that I am 'organically' autistic with a high genetic predisposition (more than an order of magnitude higher), no Sylvian Fissure, sensory (dis)integration, nearly mute, etc. Many of you here know already, yes? Or perhaps have guessed.

Temple Grandin also is considered this.....and others too - few.


Yeah, I knew that, and I'm sure most do. It would be kind of silly to have anything against you just because you have some problems some don't have, or to a bigger degree. I have the sensory "(dis)integration", sometimes wish I was, and pretend to be, mute. Of course, SOMETIMES, I might as well be. In fact I suspect that, at those times, you and I aren't much different in that respect. I don't know about the sylvian fissure, but I have the deficits common with it.