ASD and ADD

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That quote could have come right off of Fred Baughman's ADHDFRAUD.COM website. So it is a giant conspiracy then...Psychiatrists control the studies and knowledge to get payback from big pharma. Can you back that up without quoting Scientology, Baughman or other Antipsych websites? Preferably can you use a reliable secondary source such as the NYT, Time Magazine, or a national mental health institution that deals with this issue such as the Surgeon General. I'd also like to ask you about the multitude of "pure" scientific researchers (adhd is the most studied childhood disorder) who are studying the disorder and are not Psychiatrists. Are they part of the ever growing conspiracy also?

Speaking of hyperactive ADHD
-problems with impulse control..lack of editing behaviour...will blurt things out that shouldn't be said
-living in the moment ...poor forward planning..procrastination, forget appts. etc
-more dramatic(heart on their sleeve)..more easily sucked in emotionally, over reacting ie road rage.
-can be annoying..less self perception (intra and interpersonal) This subtype also tends to be more extroverted, energetic, loud, hyperfocusing...mixed with the above traits can make for annoying behaviour.

The inattentive subtype might better fit characteristics seen in ASD behaviour.

I was diagnosed with the inattentive type of ADD back in the early 80s, long before AS was being diagnosed. Apparantly, I didn't meet the criteria for autism because of my verbal abilities, but they needed to diagnose me with something because I was so abnormal. I daydreamed constantly, didn't pay attention to much outside my head, didn't express emotions, and didn't care about following any rules or instructions. However, I had a precocious vocabulary and did well on the standardized tests, so they knew I was capable of doing the school work I refused to do.

I think that I had AS and not ADD. Interestingly, some of my AS symptoms were mistaken for ADD symptoms. My clumsiness was perceived as disorganization. People thought that I wasn't paying attention to them while they were talking, but I actually had auditory processing disorder. My stims were seen as hyperactive fidgeting. So, while AS and ADD inattentive type are actually very different, their symptoms can look similar to an observer.

I copied the following from Wikipedia.

I suppose it's possible that a person with an ASD also is affected by this ADHD condition even though some of the effects should cancel out each other. But, I'm very certain that a majority of the ADD/ADHD diagnoses that people with an ASD get are simply based on the inattention for uninteresting subjects that we all have, not on actually having a co-morbid condition.

They seem to set their tresholds so much lower when they look for additional psychiatric diagnoses so they can sell additional treatment, and cover it up with the idea that any condition has several co-morbids. ASD being co-morbid with depression I can definitely agree with since there's often a causal relationship, but I can safely say that most people with ASD that get ADHD and OCD diagnoses don't really match the actual criteria for the additional diagnoses. When it comes to some psychiatric diagnoses being co-morbid with others, it just might be that they're not perfectly defined too. People with conduct disorder that grow up to match the diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder will very often get diagnosed with ADHD, but their hyperactivity isn't the innocent kind typical ADHD children display - instead they actively violate other children. It should be enough with the CD diagnosis describing these children, but psychiatry sadly likes standardizing treatment even when the actual conditions differ.

The boom in diagnosing children with bipolar disorder is a clear indication of how little psychiatry today cares about their actual diagnosis criteria - nearly none of the children match the criteria for adults, but without any underlying research, they get all these children started on drugs for the supposed condition.

When you're in psychiatry's spotlight, they'll try to diagnose you with as much as possible - with the loose criteria they apply at this time, it wouldn't surprise me if they'd find a majority of children having some condition that warrants treatment according to them.

Oh, return of the village fool. I'm not interested in talking to you since I've already concluded that you're a twit. Stop insinuating stuff about me. Now, go back to the rock under where you belong.

Conspiracy theorists never like the difficult questions like how, why, and when.

Clumsiness is a characteristic of ADHD. The characteristics you speak of sound a lot like Sluggish Cognitive Tempo...which appears to be a homogeneous group within the inattentive subtype. They are often described as being spacy...like they are running on three cylinders.