SCARY ASPIE GIRLZ

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I like to verbally beat up or physically beat up bullies. Are you a bully?

I'm a girl. I get bullied a lot.
So I tend to get too defensive sometimes.

or the record, I am saying the same. I am just saying that females aren't necessarily peace makers and nurturing either.

You know, I will NEVER forget the time I saw a dog I had bark at a cat. Sounds typical, right? Well, the CAT started it. She threatened the dog. But you know, the dog would probably get the blame. BTW the dog was well behaved, and the cat was gently, but firmly, held, so neither one got involved with a fight, etc... A few cat roars, threatening posturing(by the cat), and dog barks, and that was it.

BTW Recently a girl here got hurt and sent to the hospital because another girl thought she was looked at the wrong way.

Why does it matter if the females are autistic or not? Females are expected to be more nurturing so then they get more of a bad rap when they display anything other than their expected roles. For men, they are expected to be the protectors and emotionally secure enough to not cry. When they display anything other than what is expected of them as their role as men they get a bad rap.

I'm nurturing and protective of those I care about.

If you look at the state of the world, why is it really less scary when a male blows things up and persecutes gay people and speads the message of female infantcide plus honor killing? I guess it's expected so should be tolerated.

Are you your expected role?

I don't know if that is targeted against me, or what. In my area of the world, blowing things up for religion and no higher purpose is seen as STUPID! Female infanticide in the US could EVEN, under the eyes of the law be seen as a HATE CRIME! That is worse than killing a cop! Killing a child is bad enough, but if it is because she is female, it is seen as WORSE! People are allowed to have abortions, but they better not let it slip that it is because the kid is the "wrong" sex! They could become a pariah! And "honor" killing is seen as stupid also.

Frankly, if I had kids, I would want one of each, and I would be happy with each. I would want my daughter to not hold my sex against me, and speak to me with the comfort that she would to her mother. Heck, I had a friend who was a girl in highschool(we were both in the same class), who spoke to me like that. Later, I had two female coworkers that did. Later, a woman at CHURCH, of all places! So I at least got a taste of it.

As for women being more nurturing, they really should be. Hey, men aren't going to breast feed, handle young children as well, or have the babies, so women are the best ones for that. As for men not crying? C'est la vie. Men do seem less likely to cry. As far as full on crying like I used to do when I got hurt really bad and was really young, I seriously don't think I ever could now. It puts up a better front as a protector also.

I'm a girl btw. Online, lots of people think I'm a guy. Gee, I wonder why.

Probably AS girls are harsher to get along with because we've had to put up with NT girls for so long. You guys got to be separate from them sometimes, but we were always around them. And NT or not, the preppiest girls were always the worst to deal with. You constantly had to be on guard around them.

I am a girl and you didn't offend me.
I find it quite pleasent to know that the girls on here don't seem weak to the guys.

Although I hope that I don't scare you...I don't want to come across as mean.

I am a girl and I don't hit people with iron bars unless I see them as a threat.

Women shouldn't be nurturing just because they are women. Many women don't breast feed. Many women don't want children, or even like children. Some women are not at all nurturing.

Some men do cry more readily than women. They might seem less likely to, but that doesn't reflect either on all men or all women. Some men are complete wimps, which isn't expected of the stereotypcal male. Some women are aggressive (which might be seen as a more stereotypical male trait).

You also seem to have contradicted yourself, going from saying that aspie girls are just as scary as NT women because all women are like a praying mantis (which is a laughable generalisation, to be honest), to saying that women should be more nurturing because they have breasts and give birth (yes, we all know there is logic there, but it's still often not true - in the same way that not all men want to sleep around and 'spread their seed') and men not crying is because they're men (rather than influenced by society-imposed ideas of what is acceptable in both genders).

Generally, aspie girls seem to be referred to as being naive and likely to be easily led astray. If aspie girls are defensive/aggressive, then that could be a defence against 'scary' male advances. It's far safer to be cynical by default than to be trusting - something a lot of male aspies seem to have learned as well. I also wouldn't be surprised if this 'fear' of aspie girls came expressly from the fact a lot of you seem to want girlfriends and girls in general are hard for you to approach? That seems to be a common trend, and perhaps one less experienced by girls... perhaps not. And aspie girls are just as hard to approach because we are just as likely to misundertand you as NT girls (in the same way an aspie male is just as likely as an NT male to misunderstand aspie females). I don't feel a connection with anyone else on the spectrum - we're all different anyway and I find just as many aspies annoying as I do NTs (and I'm sure the feeling is often mutual).

I will also say that I quite dislike that late diagnosis of ASDs in women is automatically put down to the fact that they must have 'compensated' for their differences because women are socially better than men. Even though men are often diagnosed late as well. And even though not all girls fit the 'aspie female stereotype'.

Even though I have caused my share of trouble, I have been told by some guys i have dated that I was less trouble than most to date. It is not my mission to intimidate anyone. i get along somewhat ok with lots of people who communicate differently or poorly....
I am pretty nurturing, but not overly so....I don't think I am all that scary, but I am sure there are those who would disagree....Alot of the time i am sorta like "one of the guys"...at least compared to really hyper-feminine types...If I am scary towards anyone, more likely it would be them...sometimes...I am more on the defense etc when dealing with girly-girls...than with guys...

Anyone afraid of me?

No because your synesthetic image that appears in my mind has soft colors and a very nice texture

Do I play my expected male role of being tough, protecting and not showing much emotion? I like to protect if I can... tough? Well that's a tricky one - am I tough? I ain't intimidating, macho or anything but I suppose yes I am quite tough in the sense that things have a hard time breaking me down - on every occasion lol - things do break me down but it ain't easy for stuff to do that to me.
Showing emotion? Find an understanding girl and raise the point about AS, then it shouldn't matter if you show every once in a while that things are overwhelming you... don't let it slip all the time though.

Well yes, and all the rest. Guys may bully, it is rough house, maybe some name calling.

Girls grow up with girls, mostly are protected from boys, and take it out on other girls in a way I would call a hate crime. The personal and emotional attack. They are sneeky, and will plan forever to get someone.

When suddenly I start having problems with strangers, and people I know suddenly change, I start looking for the girl involved. When social poison does not work, I start watching where I eat. Nothing predictable.

She did nothing unusual, she just always dreamed of marrying the boss, and as I was not interested, she was going to get rid of me because the next boss might marry her. She planned it all out when she was eight, and it just had to happen that way.

When guys fight it is a show of power, a test of being a standup guy who might take the worst, but is not backing down.

When girls fight it is to remove eyes, blind and maim, rip out chunks of scalp, and scar faces. They have much more of a pecking order thing than guys.

Young teen girls know more about sex and how it moves the social world than I did at thirty. It is true that sex is something women have and men want. They catch on early.

They are very shelf dated, their clock runs out mid thirties, their biological drives know no limits. Not being what they are looking for, it is best to avoid them. Being what they are looking for is also dangerous.

Praying Mantis only eat their mate, women will eat one man for the house they want, the next for the money they need, and a third to father their children, then pay child support.

Barbi keeps a weding gown ready at all times.

It is not women doing these things, it is nature, with red claws. The Venus Flytrap smells so sweet. Life is consumed to produce more life.

There is a lot of it in Chinese art. The fish swiming in the lilies, toward a white heron, the painting of the hunting tiger, just as it has caught sight of it's prey, the painter.

The lioness only hunts to eat, to feed her cubs. She will do whatever it takes.

Nature does not care, it only wins, or loses.

ACTUALLY, I have been consistant! I said women AREN'T necessarily passive, etc... I simply said they SHOULD be. That would be the ideal! You are stating things as they ARE, and I have agreed with that! BTW I certainly don't mean to offend. I also don't advocate anything like the stepford wives(Where a person tries to make the women of a town fit his/her ideal) For the record, I wouldn't see the point of a wife, or women in general, simply going along. Even on "leave it to beaver" the wife had a say and her own mind.

And YEAH, men don't fit the ideal either. I am certainly not a wimp, but I AM passive. I am a bad negotiator. There are a number of those stereotypes I don't fit. With 30% of it(sports, aggression, peer stuff, etc...) I say GOOD RIDDANCE! With the rest(social acceptance, strong attitude, assertiveness, negotiation, posturing, etc...) I wish I was better. You know that "old boys club" that many minorities and women say white men are in? Well, I AM NOT in any such club.

ALSO, I might refer to women almost like I am hunting around, etc... But, to tell you the truth, it would be pretty much a miracle if anything happened at this point. I think more about finances and food than I think about that.

And NOPE, it isn't aspie girls that are supposed to be naive, but aspies in general. Then again, WHO KNOWS!? I am SO cynical(Partly because I used to be so trusting) that I really wonder. I mean look at rebates? MANY places are using them as sales gimics and they rarely honor them. There must be an AWFUL lot of naive NTs as well.

Anyway, I WISH you were wrong about aspies being so different, but WP and asdgestalt indicate you are right. And there is something I like about you, even though I do know react in some ways I don't like. You and I are from different cultures. HECK, half the foods you talk about I have to look up. Half the remainder I found out about in like the past 13 years! And I even appreciate THAT!

And women DO hide AS better than men. The emotional problems/outbursts and temperment you might have are more common and accepted in women, so failure to control them doesn't arouse as much concern. Since men have to understand most of the social cues, some AS tendencies may actually HELP women there. So AGAIN, no suspicion. YEAH, I know.... THAT is where the naivete comes into play and can be a problem. I have the OPPOSITE problem. I have become cynical, and start to almost just want to be alone. AGAIN, in this paragraph, I am not stating how things should be, but how they are perceived.

I understand your frustration, but HEY! I was NEVER diagnosed. I am POSITIVE I have it though. I was examined a LONG time when I was 6, at the urging of my school. Ironically enough, they probably gave me every test they would give an AS person today. They dealt with IQ, perception, imagination, feelings, association. Probably in about that order. I wasn't playing with the other kids. That was LONG before AS and apparently even autism, were recognized here in the US. Nothing came of it. So I was discriminated directly based on time, and indirectly in many ways. I mean AS was discovered and researched long before even I was born, but I STILL couldn't get such a diagnosis! So you are LUCKY there! I am, as I recall, close to 20 years older than you are. Just think! Even 20 years ago AS was not a recognized diagnosis.

BTW you have been very open about yourself. I almost feel like I know you. I'm not annoyed by you. I hope you aren't by me. I was even toying with the idea of coordinating a visit with sophist so I could meet her, noctivagus(sp?), and you(I saved the best for last ). I've never been to England. But I've decided it never works out well(Trying to get social), and would cost enough in time and money, that I would probably just end up heavily disappionted. But HEY, the THOUGHT was there. You can ask sophist, if you doubt me. I think I also mentioned it on ASDgestalt though. Hopefully she remembers. It was like May at the time.

Well, I have seen SOME do that. MAN, you almost wonder why schools allow such long nails.

As for the sex part, I don't think they really understand half of it. I think, if there IS a god, that god created us just to laugh at our foibles. If so, god may have given man the need and desire for women just to see how women would react.

Sometimes women are like those on tv that say they have discovered the cure for the common cold! They have an elixor that, when taken, will CURE the common cold in 7-10 days! WOW!! So you have girls buying flashy dresses, putting on tons of makeup and perfume, hairstyles, etc... They have stupid gestures, etc... ALL THE WHILE, that might help a little to drive attention to THEM, but I doubt any straight man cares! The clothes and all are mostly like that elixor. The effect is often in SPITE of the attempt not because of it.

HECK, We're back to the robins again! Do you really think the female is that interested in the color of the male? Probably not. It is just easy to spot him. Once she spots him, and considers him, he has to do a sales pitch! He has to show her the nest he has for her. If she isn't happy, she LEAVES! For humans, at least me and others I have heard from, humans are the EXACT same way except that the man might be looking for more in the woman and is the one that is attracted and does the hunting. The woman still has the final say though.

So I wonder if they REALLY know that much! Have you ever wondered how much the world might change in a week if you could turn off all appreciation of feminine characteristics?