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I am absolutely terrified of the authorities...cops, doctors, etc. I am even nervous around my kid's teachers. Every cop I've personally dealt with has given me justifiable cause to be afraid. They think I'm on drugs (never have been) or drunk (again...nope) or mentally ill (well....nah, jk) because I don't "act right". I've been committed by idiots who don't know anything and released within 24 hours by doctors who do...and I was kept once for 3 months because I wasn't "acting right". I was 18 years old and in college and it threw off my entire life. I just now, at 30, got back into college. I am terrified of these people. They wanted me severely drugged and it isn't necessary. You do NOT treat asperger's with lithium and other major drugs. They were trying to stop my flat affect. Hello! Read the diagnostics for asperger's/autism!! ! Idiots.

The worse thing is, we actually have something to fear, they feed of our "paranoia", which is actualy correct infomation. I had a psych come round to the house when I was at home, only a couple of days after my school had one of my classmates commited, lucky for me I managed to lie my way out of it. I got that because my mom found a copy of Kurt Cobain's suicide note, which I had been reading after being told the last few lines may have been added by someone else, I mean we all know Kurt was murdered, he did not kill himself I don't think, never have. Anyway I had mentioned a few times that my life sucked etc, and I had mentioned suicide, anyone living with my stepfarther would have done the same.
I was just a socialy inept kid with bright pink hair who listened to Nirvana all the time, tried smoking, all of it, you know what teens are like, and I nearly got locked up for it, just because I had AS stamped on my forhead and nobody really understood what it was all about, and it gave the "psych army" reason to think I might make a good guinea pig.

My aspy sister was locked up in a mental ward for a month. My parents wanted to take her out of there but we told that if they went against doctor's orders they would have to pay out of pocket for her stay. The hospital wanted to keep her there until the medical insurance ran out.

I wouldn't have cooperated. If that were my kid. I would have taken her home and told the hospital, I'll see them in court about the bill. Maybe they'd declare me nuts and lcok me up.

OregonBecky that's so awful, that's what a lot of places in the US operate like, over here mental health is managed by the National Health Service, which as good as it must sound to you, fails people with ASD's very miserably. There are also charges for things like prescriptions, £6.60 I think the currant charge is, the exemptions are stupid, people with say a thyroid problem get prescriprions free while cancer patients have to pay, Low incomes also qualify, but if you live with a partner who earns their money is counted as yours, the whole set up makes no sence and it is all embroiled in the failing, and if you ask me rather unstable way the country is run and financed. As for where mental health comes into this a lot of the damage is caused by social services before it even gets handed to the "psych army". social services are like the secret police, one wrong move from a mother can result in her losing her kids, and as for Aspie mothers, it's a dangerous minefield, they will take your baby at birth if they can use "mental health" as a weapon in order to meet their child snatching targets for adoptions. Social Services can turn a loving mother into a child abusing monster with a few signed papers, it upsets me to the point of crying every time I read about another genuine case of this.
Yet on an even more frightening level, they fail so many times to remove children from homes where abuse is actually happening, it's like russian roulette with human life, there are no "catogories" or "at risk register" it all comes down to luck, if your number's up, it's up.

Quoting Miserylovescompany:

Damn straight & right on.

This is a very interesting thread and very informative. The videos of Mary's story are chilling.
Thanks.

the problem in america is once you turn 18, and are considerd an adult unless you voluntarily commit yourself or are an apparent danger to yourself or others you cant be forced into getting help, and the prison systems mostely get caught up in dealing with people with mental ilnesses. i dont think they can just break your door down and drag you away though

Well, I'm only going by the example which is this country, and it happens here. The government sets targets for these various agencies to meet, such as adoptions, they set levels that they want to see kids being adopted, and social services are there to "inforce" that. There is no such thing as care, it depends of many factors if they are going to come break into your house, if your "troublesome" like Mary in the video was portrayed, if you have children, so they can take them away and meet yet more targets etc etc. The scary thing is they can make you whatever they want you you once they have you.
We are living in scary times, and as groups like Autism Speaks get a foothold in this boiling sea of conspiracy and controversy, we have every reason to worry that ourselves or our children may be taken as guinea pigs for the "cure".

I was locked up for a week or two a couple of times as a teenager after my mom and dad's divorce. Absolutely horrifying experience. I hope I have nothing to fear about being randomly locked up as an adult. (Also, the antidepresents and stuff they stuck me on either had no, or the opposite effect and I quit all of them.)

I hope I'm not making a mistake going to a psychologist next month to try to get a diagnosis...

Those times as a teenager were insane too, because they overanalyzed EVERY SINGLE THING you did as though it has some monumental importance. One time in a psychiatrists office a remote controlled car behind me (that I hadn't even noticed) all of a sudden starts moving. I jumped a little bit from surprise-I'm sure everyone would-and this was interpreted as this big, monumentous thing that revealed all this stuff about me
It was all like that. They acted like I was nuts too because of how we spell my dog's name. HER NAME for crying out loud (and I'm since found out that is one of the accepted spellings for it...) Just insane people. Utterly terrifying that they wield any power. Also insane that the units are locked. If it was REALLY treated like the physical issue it is, they wouldn't lock people up like animals.

Are you in the UK wolfpup? All they are doing with all the analysing is looking for your guinea pig potential, I'm sorry to say it like this, but these people have a drug for every aspect of who you are, they latch onto events in your life, like your parent's devorce and forge you a mental illness out of it.

By all means try for a diagnosis, your more likely to be told you have some kind of post traumtic stress what not from your parents splitting up and nothing done to help you these days, but do flag up AS, take as much info as you can about it and make sure your psych has a good background knowledge of ASD's, of not ask to be refered to someone who does, and they do exist.

Last edited by miserylovescompany on 16 Oct 2007, 12:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

No, I'm in the U.S. Sounds like it's a similar mess there I'd like to think there's some magical place that's enlightened!

Are you in the uk???

No, United States.

Oh sorry..I read it too fast..stupid me.

I hope everything goes ok for you.

A former flatmate of mine became psychotic, but an NHS doctor simply couldn't be bothered doing anything about it or even admitting there was a problem (it was blatantly obvious). He became violent and the police had to intervene. He was later successfully treated with meds, if the doctor had done his job in the 1st place he would probably never have turned violent. So it seems pretty arbitrary what doctors do. I've on the other hand heard stories about psychiatric hospitals being used by families to effectively bury alive sane relatives they couldn't be bothered with.
The thing with doctors is that there is so much variation in quality, and hence there are some very bad ones - in one case, I (no medical training whatsoever) correctly diagnosed someone with appendicitis on the basis of a description of her symptoms and a medical encyclopedia, while a 'specialist' (a licensed quack) claimed it could not be appendicitis.

Call me a conspiracy buff, but I think they have secret lists of the type of people they are lucking for for specifc types of research, your poor flatmate might not have been the critiria they were looking for that particular month, this would explain why some cases obviously in need of help are turned away, yet others are taken so seriously.

why would they abduct people in the UK for experimentation?

Surely it would be far easier, cheaper and safer (from their POV) to recruit desperate people from poverty stricken and less regulated places like africa, sth america or maybe even eastern europe.