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27 Oct 2007, 5:11 pm

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Anyone who says cats can't be herded isn't speaking the truth. It can be done - I've done it. I know others who have trained cats to obey via whistle and command and given the trust and bond that must exist between human and feline - the cat ~will~ gather in formation.

This guy is my hero btw - he's got the gift - [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLEA1BgJ6YQ[/youtube]

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While talking to a clinical psychologist last week I mentioned the local AS group I'm setting up, she immediately replied "that's all very well but you'll find it like HERDING CATS". Am I a fool to think that aspies can work co-operatively for a common goal? Am I going to get a nasty scratch? How can I avoid a visit from the RSPCA? Fair comment or MeowMeow?


That was blinking fascinating, fantastic, cool and wonderful all at the same time.

:) he's a cat whisperer!


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27 Oct 2007, 6:13 pm

and i was purring at kittenfluffies until she told me she had a boyfriend...


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27 Oct 2007, 7:42 pm

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I've done that. It was so funny. I'd be whistling for the dog to come in and the barn cat "Garfield" would come running. When he got within sight, he'd start meowing too.



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28 Oct 2007, 9:15 am

I have herded cats quite successfully.



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28 Oct 2007, 9:42 am

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I've done that. It was so funny. I'd be whistling for the dog to come in and the barn cat "Garfield" would come running. When he got within sight, he'd start meowing too.



AWw. :)


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28 Oct 2007, 12:50 pm

Like herding cats? Seems like a too-simple view of the matter to me. Yes, we're like cats in that we have our own interests and focus on those, often without immediate regard for the rest of the world. My thought, however, is that if there is a group for Aspies and they attend the group - they're interested.


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28 Oct 2007, 1:47 pm

Why would you want to herd cats? That seems illogical to me. Just let cats be and enjoy them as they are. All people who live with cats know that *wink*

Also, I have no desire to try and control or have authority over people. I like to think that on WP, I find a place where no one is trying to do that to me, either!



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28 Oct 2007, 1:55 pm

Just wanted to add that when my cats hear my car approaching, they rush out to greet me, meowing "hello" as I step out, and escort me back up the stairs. They don't do this because they want food, their bowls are always full. Its simply a matter of mutual respect. Provided you aren't trying to force your will onto a cat, they will love you in return. But if you try to force your will onto them, be prepared for disdain, because that is what you would deserve!



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28 Oct 2007, 2:13 pm

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While talking to a clinical psychologist last week I mentioned the local AS group I'm setting up, she immediately replied "that's all very well but you'll find it like HERDING CATS". Am I a fool to think that aspies can work co-operatively for a common goal? Am I going to get a nasty scratch? How can I avoid a visit from the RSPCA? Fair comment or MeowMeow?
Actually, she's a bit wrong. Aspergians are notorious for being able to relate almost normally with other Aspergians.

I completely disagree. I have taken part in an offline group for people with Asperger's syndrome in the past, and it was always a pain in the ass to accomplish anything at all because people had varying preferences, opinions, obstinacies, and social quirks that made just getting everyone to attend a meeting almost impossible. Some people couldn't drive or were unwilling to drive far; some got lost while driving too easily to stray far from home. Some wanted minimal social contact; others wanted to dominate the conversation. Some were grossly socially inappropriate; others had more social anxiety and inhibitions than anything. All around, people couldn't agree on a time, place, and activity.

Good luck.



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28 Oct 2007, 2:23 pm

*meows*



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28 Oct 2007, 2:43 pm

This reminds me of one of Craig Ferguson's monolgues where he was joking about how people will always tell you your ideas are bad and how you have to just not listen to those person.

Personally, I don't herd cats well, but I can open a tin of catfood and have a pack of them follow me around the block. That's the thing - a group like this will need leadership and planning, someone who decides when, where and what, to get it up and running. I say go ahead. And all you really need is a cople of other people for starters. If it was me, I would start by finding couple of people who are genuinely interested and start meeting on a regular basis. Then invite anyone else to join. Maybe even plan in advance on a topic of discussion, then email everyone, so people can think about it ahead of time and come with stuff to tall about. You can even google info on starting a discussion group, especially for guidelines on how to moderate discussion to keep things respectful and decent and allow everyone a chance to participate. No doubt you'll run into a few kinks that need to be ironed out, but just look at it as a learning experience.



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28 Oct 2007, 2:43 pm

This reminds me of one of Craig Ferguson's monolgues where he was joking about how people will always tell you your ideas are bad and how you have to just not listen to those person.

Personally, I don't herd cats well, but I can open a tin of catfood and have a pack of them follow me around the block. That's the thing - a group like this will need leadership and planning, someone who decides when, where and what, to get it up and running. I say go ahead. And all you really need is a cople of other people for starters. If it was me, I would start by finding couple of people who are genuinely interested and start meeting on a regular basis. Then invite anyone else to join. Maybe even plan in advance on a topic of discussion, then email everyone, so people can think about it ahead of time and come with stuff to tall about. You can even google info on starting a discussion group, especially for guidelines on how to moderate discussion to keep things respectful and decent and allow everyone a chance to participate. No doubt you'll run into a few kinks that need to be ironed out, but just look at it as a learning experience.



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28 Oct 2007, 3:26 pm

jjstar wrote:
Anyone who says cats can't be herded isn't speaking the truth. It can be done - I've done it. I know others who have trained cats to obey via whistle and command and given the trust and bond that must exist between human and feline - the cat ~will~ gather in formation.

This guy is my hero btw - he's got the gift -


LOL...I always laugh out loud when I see those cats on parallel bars :lol:

I would love to meet other Aspies in real life and discuss our issues and have interesting discussions.


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29 Oct 2007, 10:42 am

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I know others who have trained cats to obey via whistle


I've done that. It was so funny. I'd be whistling for the dog to come in and the barn cat "Garfield" would come running. When he got within sight, he'd start meowing too.


One of my cats does this as well! We adopter her when she was 2-years-old, so the person who had her before us must have trained her to do it. You can be anywhere in the house and whistle, then she'll come running and meowing straight up to you :)



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29 Oct 2007, 11:16 am

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This reminds me of one of Craig Ferguson's monolgues where he was joking about how people will always tell you your ideas are bad and how you have to just not listen to those person.

Personally, I don't herd cats well, but I can open a tin of catfood and have a pack of them follow me around the block. That's the thing - a group like this will need leadership and planning, someone who decides when, where and what, to get it up and running. I say go ahead. And all you really need is a cople of other people for starters. If it was me, I would start by finding couple of people who are genuinely interested and start meeting on a regular basis. Then invite anyone else to join. Maybe even plan in advance on a topic of discussion, then email everyone, so people can think about it ahead of time and come with stuff to tall about. You can even google info on starting a discussion group, especially for guidelines on how to moderate discussion to keep things respectful and decent and allow everyone a chance to participate. No doubt you'll run into a few kinks that need to be ironed out, but just look at it as a learning experience.


That sounds like really good advice :))


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29 Oct 2007, 5:04 pm

I tired a bit of aspie herding trying to start a magazine...what I found out.....

There are people who sound excited about it but never return your emails.I am very bad at orginizing myself.When there is a disagreement about the "direction" of the magazine..I am a black and white thinker and either want it my way or cant participate.
Many aspies have a hard enough time (with their jobs/school/health issues)just surviving to have much left over for "nonnessential" activities.


I havent given up on the idea totally but find my own personal life so out of control that I don't have the energy to try and herd anything.

As far as AS eetings.My socila and driving phobia have kept me away from our local meeting as well as someone who attends telling me they "hate" WP.If I was still in my 20's,early 30's I would probably have been more likely to attend as I had a stronger need to socialize....now,not so much.


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