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08 Nov 2007, 11:06 am

IdahoRose wrote:

The thing about disliking NTs is that nine times out of ten they ridicule and ostracize us because we're different than them. It's not that NTs are bad, it's just that they tend to give aspies a very hard time.

There is no great collective of people called "NTs". They are all just people...some have Asperger's, some have Schizophrenia, some are comparatively healthy...ect.

Some of them, including some aspies, are bastards; some are not.

Simple.

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08 Nov 2007, 11:50 am

(Anyone else have the invisible weird tattoo that only NT's, cheerleaders, and co workers can see?)

ME! LOL. After meeting with my son's girlfriend (a former cheerleader) for the first time, she took one of my daughters aside to ask, "Why is she like that?" I would have asked, like what?, but my daughter apparently understands the verbal shorthand and she replied, That's just Mom.

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08 Nov 2007, 11:55 am

Sometimes after particularly bad social interactions in which I later find out that the person went to someone else and said something to the effect of "what's wrong with her/why is she so weird/etc." I find myself tempted to run into the bathroom to lift up my bangs and look to see if the invisible weird tattoo suddenly become bright snot green or something!

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08 Nov 2007, 1:04 pm

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Ha ha I get that feeling too!

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08 Nov 2007, 3:02 pm

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IdahoRose wrote:

Exactly. I think it's an overgeneralization to say that 90% of NT's are a certain way. I know a lot of NT's that have been good to me and I can talk to them easily, while on the flip side there are some people on the spectrum that I really don't get along with and/or have a hard time relating to. It also annoys me when people on this board associate any behavior they don't like or understand with NT's, when not all NT's exhibit those behaviors, and some people on the spectrum might. On a lot of these "Why do NT's ____" threads, I felt like saying "I do that, so does this mean I'm not aspie enough for you?"

I'm all for venting your frustrations with people, but please, place the blame on the individuals, not on "NT's" as a whole.

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08 Nov 2007, 3:50 pm

(please, place the blame on the individuals, not on "NT's" as a whole.)

Okay.

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08 Nov 2007, 9:01 pm

Aspirituous wrote:

I refer to those who can easily assimilate; I respect that every one of us has insecurities.

I like 'neurotypical' and think it is a respectful description; however, was told elsewhere it is more politically correct to say 'NonSpectrum', )but there are lots of spectrums(.
I think no one wants a lable because it makes them feel less individual. Would ASSIMILATORS be an acceptable term?

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08 Nov 2007, 9:32 pm

IdahoRose wrote:

Not all of us.

...But enough of us, sadly, that I'm not offended by the generalization. I still shake with rage about how mean people used to be to my AS friend.

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08 Nov 2007, 11:53 pm

We're separating people (aspies from NTs) just by having a forum for people on the spectrum.

On the internet, the idea of having a forum for black people seems stupid. You can't even know what someone's skin color is without their help. It's only relevant when discussing sunburn or vitamin D deficiencies. However, people with aspergers actually are different. It can be difficult to fit in with a forum run by and for normal people.

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I mean, we're ALL people here.

True. However, getting NT people to understand what aspergers is is difficult enough, without having to explain hypersensitivity, autistic focus, obsessive hobies and my tendency to repeat songs for days on end, social difficulties and a total lack of interest in who said what about whom when. Especially when that's the entire content of the conversation - opinions of other people, and comments about people's opinions of other people.

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No "NT" person is responsible for your life being the way it is. Forget about it. There's no blame here. Seems a bit ridiculous to me, that's all.

Every person I meet can make my day better (my girlfriend, my other aspie friends), or a lot worse (most NT people my age). Usually, it doesn't change much, but some NT people really don't understand.

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09 Nov 2007, 1:04 am

IdahoRose wrote:

It's not that NTs are bad, it's just that they tend to give aspies a very hard time.

The reason they give us a hard time is because we come across as as*holes and weirdos a lot of time. They don't know we have a condition.

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I mean, we're ALL people here.
True. However, getting NT people to understand what aspergers is is difficult enough, without having to explain hypersensitivity, autistic focus, obsessive hobies and my tendency to repeat songs for days on end, social difficulties and a total lack of interest in who said what about whom when. Especially when that's the entire content of the conversation - opinions of other people, and comments about people's opinions of other people.

We're not all the same. I'm an NT and i cant stand that he said she said crap. Thats a trait of shallow people not nts as a whole.

Alot of nts have difficulty assimilating as well. How easy do you think it is for someone with schizophrenia to assimilate? Or Gender dysphoria, my god Transexuals need to go through years of therapy, hormone replacement and major invasive surgery before they feel like they are who they should be. They have been beaten to death for being who they are.

Nts can be mean and shallow, but tey can also be compassionate, deep, intelligent, and just as maladjusted as anyone with a functioning autisim.

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09 Nov 2007, 3:47 am

IdahoRose wrote:

hence all the NT bashing that occurs on this site. maybe peoples should not NT bash they should "jerk bash" instead. by that i mean bash peoples that are mean to them and stuff.
cos not all NT peeps are evil. I know some wonderful peoples that are not on the spectrum.

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09 Nov 2007, 3:48 am

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Alot of nts have difficulty assimilating as well. How easy do you think it is for someone with schizophrenia to assimilate? Or Gender dysphoria, my god Transexuals need to go through years of therapy, hormone replacement and major invasive surgery before they feel like they are who they should be. They have been beaten to death for being who they are.

Nts can be mean and shallow, but tey can also be compassionate, deep, intelligent, and just as maladjusted as anyone with a functioning autisim.

I am thinking that those persons are not 'neurotypical' and 'non-apectrum may be more accurate. My mate is psychic and that is not typical. Might be all lables, however useful in a context, distort our thinking and cause predjudice or offense to someone. I also agree that a very neurotypical person could have trouble assimilating say for appearance or other physical charateristic, so not a good term. And would be shortened....

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09 Nov 2007, 4:45 am

IdahoRose wrote:

Agreed.

I think that if NT's accept those with AS, then we would really have no reason to sometimes dislike them. Not that all NT's ridicule aspies, I have came across some who are accepting, well atleast they appear to be.
I don't dislike NT's, I just dislike the fact that the most I have met seem to judge me and bully me. It's the behavior I dislike, not the actual person.

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09 Nov 2007, 4:46 am

Aridarr wrote:

There is no such thing as a normal, problem-free person. Everyone is different in some way.

Ha! And those who have actual girlfriends, unlike me? And jobs?
We are born equal, but our skills are not equally distributed.

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09 Nov 2007, 4:51 am

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IdahoRose wrote:

nts who judge bully and ridicule you will judge bully and ridicule anyone they can regardless of whether or not the victim is an aspie. Its th

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