Accepting Autism is Like a Traffic Jam

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WOW, I don't know whether to cry for the world because people like you are in it, or to laugh at the crazy assertions! I guess I'll just laugh! You seem to think bush is responsible for this. NOPE! Besides, if that was true, that would mean that autism didn't exist earlier, etc... You are creating your own paradox.

I guess you ALSO believe that bill gates created the first programming language, steve jobs created the Apple, bill clinton invented the TV set, and al gore created the internet! ALL are LIES they tried to slip into peoples minds.

HECK, Al Gore recently won a noble peace prize for restating pablum that MANY have done. He is one of the ones most responsible for CREATING the problem, according to him(Just in ONE of his personal residences, it creates about 20 times the average polution), and he gets a prize? Maybe he should try to blow up an atom bomb in norway so they will REALLY love him, etc... It makes about as much sense.

ok, add in animal skills and farming by hand, and various other often-AS aptitudes; they're almost all in the past. I don't mean to suggest that ALL AS are clerically or crafts gifted, just that many are, when they have the peace and time to be so.

True. i guess I am envious of these aspies because I lack social skills and employment skills. I just dont really have any utilitarian use at all, except making a lot of noise occasionally.

Anyway, my own issues.

It's a while since i did anything productive in the handmade or clerical line either so i think i know how you feel a bit there. And the only job i've managed to hold down for longer than 3 years part time in a library has been motherhood, where you're unlikely to get fired except for very serious incapacity.

The OP hasn't replied to any of this... I think he was just trolling to get half the forum riled up about it.

I think a lot of AS people feel this way. Perhaps I will find a comfortable employment niche one day but I need to really start listening to myself and find what I can really do, not what I can force myself to do.
I would like the motherhood job though .

Hi Folks,

foresam = http://hatingautism.blogspot.com

No, I'm not trolling. I'm trying to educate you. I grew up when autism and Asperger's hardly existed at all. You folks are a generation who has been poisoned and you shouldn't be happy about it. Your mental capacity is so diminished that you can't even see this and it's a real shame.

I don't like the fact that my son has brain damage that was caused by him getting way too much mercury. That didn't happen to me or to previous generations. I'm just an old guy who sees a whole generation f****d up by mercury and I don't like watching you all being sold BS by people who stand to lose trillions of dollars because they poisoned you. Anyone who tells you that you should accept your autism or Asperger's is part of that drug company sponsored propaganda and it should piss you off that you are being used in this manner.

You can't debate someone who is emotionally bound to his/her argument. They will never change their position, no matter how much information to the contrary they are given or how many times you disprove their argument.

On the other hand, anyone have any links that disprove the mercury argument? I'd like to read them because I've never heard what the counterargument was to mercury poisoning.

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With all the Victorian mercury remedies could explain the industrial revolution and the resulting acceleration of advancement.

I think there is a lot in what you say about the damage being done by the modern environment to peoples metabolisms, and in contributing to the severity and number of AS disorders. Even if you restrict it, very narrowly in my opinion, to mercury, i think that there is definitely an environmental element in the increasing numbers.
But how much is difficult to say because as i said above it is not clear how much autism may have been less visible in the past because society was slower, quieter, more handwork based, with fewer strangers, etc etc etc, and therefore autists may have been relatively better adapted .
Also people were considerably more surveyed and controlled in their passage to, and through, adulthood, so that the Executive Dysfunction which is such a bane for many with ASDs may have been to a large extent compensated for/limited in its destructiveness by stable framework/conventions/tradition, etc, and the fact that most people followed in their parents footsteps.
( on the other hand the fact that these traditions have been exploded, by increasing resistance to parental guidance, ??? might suggest that those Victorian remedies you mentioned, Mindtear, may have been doing damage already 150 years ago ! ! )
Apparently it is difficult/almost impossible to distinguish between a NEW wave of autism and an already existing, but more integrated, population of autists in the past.
I agree that there do seem to be more sensory processing disorders, PDDs etc, but perhaps it IS very largely because society now puts more stress on certain skills ( people skills, writing and reading, etc etc ) than 100 years ago. Children are far more "measured" than before, and "levels" of development have been standardised in ways unheard of 100 years ago.
I'm pretty convinced that there are significant environmental factors which have caused an increase in severity and frequency of symptoms, and it will be good when it is brought home to the polluters, but at the moment it is not established. Jury still out.
If it isn't a significantly environmentally triggered phenomenon then the awful thing is thinking that society is leaving us behind in its march of progress!

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I dont get it, your telling us we're broken. That we shouldn't accept who we are and to be pissed at some drug companies that may or maynot have "broken" us before we were born? With each post your more and more sounding like someone that got passed over for job advancement by someone with AS, and you have some weird personal grudge against people with autism.

Er, you talking to me?,! !

I'm satisfied with the way that I am. I don't think or feel that there's anything wrong with me. I personally do not wish to be cured. You can't cure something that's not a disease. I don't feel brain damaged, and I certainly don't sound brain damaged. I think that it should be up to each individual person, whether they wish to be cured, or not. People with autism, are all individuals, not sheeple.

I'd rather be like this: than this: , any day.

Sid is not brain-damaged. He's a sweet rat, who has HFA.

Sorry, should have quoted. That was for the resident troll.