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15 Dec 2007, 2:58 am

Meta-Typical.

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15 Dec 2007, 2:58 am

Kilroy wrote:
who cares
not like I tell anyone anyways :roll:


I would rather people think me autistic than an ass or self absorbed.

How do you get by without telling anyone?

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15 Dec 2007, 3:18 am

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I think a lot of people with Aspergers are gifted. Einstien, Newton, Ford, Gates, AG Bell, Gore, and a host of others. They certainly do not fit the typical sense of the term Autism.

Autism + "Normal Cognitive Pattern" makes NO SENSE....


Actually, 1/4 of those with autism have a normal cognitive pattern as they develop; there's conflict in the professional community whether this "HFA" is any different than Asperger's. You're wrong here.

I'd like to see the diagnosis of the above mentioned big names; they could easily have a personality disorder which explains/explained their aloofness, plus they can/could be absolutely normal. You're speculating here.

The real gifted individuals are the savants with autistic disorder, most of which are mentally ret*d. I'm being subjective on the term "gifted" here, much like you are with the above mentioned names. I'm certainly "gifted" if we use the current terminology, and I don't have Asperger's.



15 Dec 2007, 3:24 am

Aspergers is a form of autism. Autism is more severe than AS. I prefer not to be labeled autistic because I picture myself rocking back and forth and not communicating, and doing all these stereotype autistic moves, and I am not even close to it. I know not all autistics are like that, those are the ones with the severe case of it.



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15 Dec 2007, 3:32 am

Spokane_Girl,

18% of those with autism don't communicate; most constantly don't rock/sway, it's usually in response to emotional excitation (good or bad). There's many misconceptions about autism like there is with Asperger's. Most with autism talk, their cognitive pattern is usually more pronounced than someone with Asperger's, but they can talk.



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15 Dec 2007, 3:37 am

IdahoAspie wrote:
Interesting that you do not tell people about it. Why is that? Don't you find it hard to get by in life with nobody knowing. Many people might think you are really weird, or maybe a jerk, insensative, or something. I don't know, I just don't think I could get through life without some people knowing. I probably would be fired from my job if I didn't let at least my boss know.


3 reasons:

1. I think I cover it pretty well. I don't think anyone who doesn't know me fairly well would notice anything except maybe seeming a bit "off" or odd or eccentric, and anyone who knows me better would (hopefully) know I'm not a jerk...

2. Does anyone really need to know? I would rather have friends who put up with quirks and oddities because they like being friends with me, and not because they're humoring my disability...

3. It still carries a big stigma. Even though a lot of people (maybe most?) would just accept it and be fine with it there will always be people who will judge because of it. Especially since I plan on doing things which depend on my reputation, and frankly jerk beats out mental disability...plus I don't think many people think of me as a jerk.

Plus, it's not like I'm lying to anyone. If a friend (or anyone else I trust) asks me directly I'll go ahead and tell them the truth. If/when I get into a serious relationship with a girlfriend I'd tell her.



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15 Dec 2007, 3:41 am

I would call us Introverts, why? look at tony attawood last posts... It's allready in place....


Before Jung came on the scene in the 1920s introversion was used practically synonymously with autism or schizophrenic tendency. Dr. Whitmont states that old textbooks of psychiatry commonly referred to a schizoid person as an introverted or autistic person.

The bias may be gone in some psychiatric circles, but as Whitmont states in his book The Symbolic Quest, the bias against the introversive personality in society continues.



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15 Dec 2007, 4:18 am

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ret*ds. (is it really that far from the truth?)

(Yes I have AS)


This is what I called it before I knew what the hell AS was.

"I must be ret*d"


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15 Dec 2007, 4:44 am

I would call it Introversion. Medium to extreme , with or without chemical complications, arising in my case from intolerance of wheat and dairy allowing the food-opioids/opiate-similar casein and gluten to directly and adversely affect my extra-sensitive/finely balanced introvert brain since earliest infancy. ( how do you think consumption of opiates over years looks ? Inertia is one.)
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I started a thread in the Politics and Religion forum yesterday about what i see as the problem of the name Aspergers. Because it is a medical term it makes extraverts think we need curing!! It inevitably implies pathology. :( It causes confusion. :?
This creates needless argument, and seriously undermines movement for any social change which might better address the needs of introverts.

:arrow: :idea: Using the existing framework of introversion/extraversion might also trigger a long overdue critical look at the anti-social nature of extreme EXtravert behaviours which are currently causing so much trouble for so many people. :D :D

PS: And for the very few, less than 3% of wp members who have taken the Jung-Myers Typology Test, who are actually extravert but who feel that they cannot socialise as they would like to, the term High-functioning Autism might be ok. If they do indeed experience it as a disability.

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15 Dec 2007, 5:55 am

If I have to explain it to someone who isn't very receptive, I just say that it's;

A Genetic Blueprint for Nerds



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15 Dec 2007, 7:12 am

I have taken to likening myself to Butters from South Park, just do not mess with Professor Chaos!


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15 Dec 2007, 8:01 am

I think there are far to many names already Autism spectrum disorder, Aspergers syndrome, NVL, Aspie, High Function, Low Function and then all the associated mixes.

I think it really needs to be simplified one word - Advantaged :wink:

As no 2 people are alike and all at varying levels - just like NT's (but we are wired corrrectly :D )


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15 Dec 2007, 10:05 am

Great sense of humor Inventor! :lol:

I like the image Neuro-A-Typicals puts out. Then we could say there's an NT world and a NAT world. Would NTs then say, "Cure neuro-a-typicalism now?" It might hit a little to close to home, but then maybe not. :shrug:


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15 Dec 2007, 10:11 am

Cat Syndrome (As in, "All Cats Have Asperger Syndrome.")

1. Follow your own agenda
2. Independent
3. Intelligent

I believe that one of my cats has OCD, but probably not AS.



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15 Dec 2007, 10:39 am

I don't know what I'd call AS, but it would not include the word autism. Autism and AS may be on the same "spectrum" but I do not consider myself autistic and do not want the stigma of that word associated with what I have. Maybe because I'm high-functioning and, as Spokane_girl said,

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I prefer not to be labeled autistic because I picture myself rocking back and forth and not communicating, and doing all these stereotype autistic moves, and I am not even close to it. I know not all autistics are like that, those are the ones with the severe case of it.

That picture is not me at all, and if I am going to be labeled, I do not want a label that brings that and Rain Man to mind. I believe that what I have is more different from stereotypical autism than it is from NT.



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15 Dec 2007, 10:55 am

Genetically weird is one name for it.

I think about all of the things that I use to describe it to people in my lectures about AS and ASDs in general. I often talk about Autism Operating System. Most people get that analogy that we are like the Mac users in the PC world.

I talk about how we think in spider webs rather than straight lines.

I talk alot about having the visual cards in our brains that we must flip through to equate experiences so that we know how to behave.

Socially odd. Eccentric. These are words that have a nice ring to them, but like us, don't really describe the experience.

My son is rather partial to "weird". And that pretty much says it all.

Oh, man, I just thought of a great visual demo for NT to describe how we think. Wow, I'm really excited now. When can I lecture again so that I can use it?


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